Monday NOV 24th GT - Feature game - RAPS vs SUNS

majortom71 · Post #21 » by **majortom71** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:31 pm

Would love to see the Magic beat the Cavs but I'm not sure Tobias is playing tonight. Does anyone know the latest?

Illmatic12 · Post #22 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:30 pm

Shwaguy wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote::lol: Would be funny if the Magic beat Cleveland.. Vucevic is probably gonna put up 20/20 on that frontline

You expect him to get 20 Boards against Love and AV?

Yes, they are soft.

Gang of Four · Post #23 » by **Gang of Four** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:49 pm

Side beard wrote:
Nils_the_Clean wrote:Ah, not quite my friend.

Calderon is no difference maker. As much as I love Jose, he's always been, and always will be a liability unless paired with players who can pick up his defensive slack.

The Knicks possess no such players.

10/3/5 is going to be better each night than whatever is Knicks PG now. And he can shoot 3s. And FT.

Knicks are not going to benefit from Calderon's holding the ball until the end of shot clock and passing at the last second to force his teammates to heave a bad, contested shot in order to pad his assist totals. That's the extent of Calderon's game right there. Calderon can shoot 3s, but never off balance, contested jumpers. He only shoots when he is open to inflate his FG%.

Simply put, Calderon is just a stat padder, and stat padders don't make their team better: we saw that when he with the Raptors, we can see that now with Kobe Bryant with the Lakers as well. Those 5 assists per game and high 3PFG% won't mean anything, just empty stats from one of the most selfish players ever to play the game. Calderon was undrafted for a reason: he doesn't belong in the NBA. He is a prime example of why stats can be misleading.

NBAfan3024 · Post #24 » by **NBAfan3024** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:51 pm

Lowry vs dragic

pylb · Post #25 » by **pylb** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:57 pm

LAC @ CHA
ORL @ CLE
POR @ PHI
PHX @ RAP
NYK @ HOU
IND @ DAL
CHI @ UTA

Chuck Everett · Post #26 » by **Chuck Everett** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:19 pm

Is Dwight Howard even playing?

Shwaguy · Post #27 » by **Shwaguy** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:20 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
Shwaguy wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote::lol: Would be funny if the Magic beat Cleveland.. Vucevic is probably gonna put up 20/20 on that frontline

You expect him to get 20 Boards against Love and AV?

Yes, they are soft.

Hey fair enough, they are soft!

sca · Post #28 » by **sca** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:24 pm

Gang of Four wrote:
Side beard wrote:
Nils_the_Clean wrote:Ah, not quite my friend.

Calderon is no difference maker. As much as I love Jose, he's always been, and always will be a liability unless paired with players who can pick up his defensive slack.

The Knicks possess no such players.

10/3/5 is going to be better each night than whatever is Knicks PG now. And he can shoot 3s. And FT.

Knicks are not going to benefit from Calderon's holding the ball until the end of shot clock and passing at the last second to force his teammates to heave a bad, contested shot in order to pad his assist totals. That's the extent of Calderon's game right there. Calderon can shoot 3s, but never off balance, contested jumpers. He only shoots when he is open to inflate his FG%.

Simply put, Calderon is just a stat padder, and stat padders don't make their team better: we saw that when he with the Raptors, we can see that now with Kobe Bryant with the Lakers as well. Those 5 assists per game and high 3PFG% won't mean anything, just empty stats from one of the most selfish players ever to play the game. Calderon was undrafted for a reason: he doesn't belong in the NBA. He is a prime example of why stats can be misleading.

You've got to be kidding me. All the points you are parroting have been refuted time and time again back in the day over the Raptors board, and I can't believe that you're still talking **** about a guy that had been traded like three years ago and has given the team his heart and soul while he was there. Seriously, you should be ashamed of yourself. :nonono:

Nils_the_Clean · Post #29 » by **Nils_the_Clean** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:41 pm

pylb wrote:LAC @ CHA
ORL @ CLE
POR @ PHI
PHX @ RAP
NYK @ HOU
IND @ DAL
CHI @ UTA

Why'd you take Suns over Raps?

Curious.

Sign5 · Post #30 » by **Sign5** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:47 pm

Doubt Cleveland loses AGAIN. They should take this game.

Pan Jia Yuan · Post #31 » by **Pan Jia Yuan** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:48 pm

Gang of Four wrote:Knicks are not going to benefit from Calderon's holding the ball until the end of shot clock and passing at the last second to force his teammates to heave a bad, contested shot in order to pad his assist totals. That's the extent of Calderon's game right there. Calderon can shoot 3s, but never off balance, contested jumpers. He only shoots when he is open to inflate his FG%.

Simply put, Calderon is just a stat padder, and stat padders don't make their team better: we saw that when he with the Raptors, we can see that now with Kobe Bryant with the Lakers as well. Those 5 assists per game and high 3PFG% won't mean anything, just empty stats from one of the most selfish players ever to play the game. Calderon was undrafted for a reason: he doesn't belong in the NBA. He is a prime example of why stats can be misleading.

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ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #32 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:01 am

majortom71 wrote:Would love to see the Magic beat the Cavs but I'm not sure Tobias is playing tonight. Does anyone know the latest?

Tobes is out. I don't know the last time we beat LeBron's team, I doubt we will tonight, just hoping for a competitive game.

Lebron always have a hugh game against us, so I'm hoping he'll have less than 40 points.

Nowitness · Post #33 » by **Nowitness** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:08 am

LAC @ CHA (Hornets show up and keep it close,, but can't close)
ORL @CLE (Time to end this streak, but they've got to control Nikky V)
POR@ PHI (Duh)
PHX @RAPS (Gonna be close)
NYK @ HOU (Is Howard playing? If not, gonna be close)
IND @ DAL (Too much offense, should win big)
CHI @ UTA (Duh)

NinjaBro · Post #34 » by **NinjaBro** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:09 am

Cmon Orl, you can do it.

Post #35 » by **KingDavid** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:11 am

NinjaBro wrote:Cmon Orl, you can do it.

No chance w/o Tobias Harris. CLE gonna blow this open.

RNsteve · Post #36 » by **RNsteve** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:11 am

LAC @ CHA -Clippers. They gotta come back fighting after that beat down.
ORL @ CLE -Cavs. See above.
POR @ PHI -Blazers.- 76ers are going win some games this season..this is not one of them.
PHX @ RAPS - Raptors. Homer pick, going be a tight game but giving the advantage to homecourt.
NYK @ HOU -Rockets
IND @ DAL - No Hilbert pretty much making this a open/shut case.
CHI @ UTA -Bulls,

goodboy · Post #37 » by **goodboy** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:14 am

Safe to say if CLE does lose, panic time?....

Nils_the_Clean · Post #38 » by **Nils_the_Clean** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:17 am

Cleveland with cringeworthy interior D to start.

NinjaBro · Post #39 » by **NinjaBro** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:17 am

KingDavid wrote:
NinjaBro wrote:Cmon Orl, you can do it.

No chance w/o Tobias Harris. CLE gonna blow this open.

You gotta have faith. Lebron is off HGH, he's not the same.

Threethrows · Post #40 » by **Threethrows** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:18 am

Portland is playing like they all just came from the dentist so far. This is your chance Philly!