76ers will become dynasty in 10 years

stepbackjftw · Post #21 » by **stepbackjftw** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:20 pm

It looks like the twolves are farther in the rebuild than the sixers

joedumars1 · Post #22 » by **joedumars1** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:27 pm

stepbackjftw wrote:It looks like the twolves are farther in the rebuild than the sixers

? Wiggins, lavine, pekovic, shabazz, and the 1st? Rubio? He might be traded

jumpman28 · Post #23 » by **jumpman28** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:34 pm

So let me get this straight, tanking every year to get a bunch of high draft picks who we don't know will pan out is the "right way" to rebuild? Just so we're clear.

nikster · Post #24 » by **nikster** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:40 pm

stepbackjftw wrote:It looks like the twolves are farther in the rebuild than the sixers

Wolves had a superstar player to trade for one of the most hyped number one picks in a long time. and they were lucky with injuries this year allowing them to get the 1st overall pick. without those 2 strokes of luck wolves have a pretty ugly future.

Plus the 76ers have been stockpiling assests, they are playing the long game. 76ers potentially have a core of Noel/Embiid/Saric/Russell while still owning 4 potential 1st round picks in 2016 and tons of 2nd rounders they could use to find a steal. I think in 3 years time the 76ers are looking a lot better than the wolves

wickedwrister · Post #25 » by **wickedwrister** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:41 pm

jumpman28 wrote:So let me get this straight, tanking every year to get a bunch of high draft picks who we don't know will pan out is the "right way" to rebuild? Just so we're clear.

Not for every team at all. For where the Sixers were 2 years ago, yes it was by far the best course of action. When your asset list is Jrue Holiday, Thad Young, Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner and you owe two first round picks the turnaround in just 2 years is pretty remarkable.

asdfgh · Post #26 » by **asdfgh** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:48 pm

It really depends on whether their players develop into superstars and also on whether they draft well. It really isn't as simple as amassing draft picks. You also need to have the right coaches and a positive working environment. If only it was that simple.

tmorgan · Post #27 » by **tmorgan** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:53 pm

This is so incredibly stupid. I'm not talking about the Sixers -- that could end any number of ways, including multiple championships -- I'm talking about the article.

Unless the CBA changes, a max player can earn about 35% of the cap. You can't have 3 true max players with contracts signed under the new cap, which is what the Sixers will have if all of Embiid, Noel, and the 3rd pick (not to mention any future guys) pan out that well.

It's called math. Or seriously punitive luxury tax, I suppose, because you need other guys on the roster.

ChuckChilly · Post #28 » by **ChuckChilly** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:54 pm

10 year predictions? lol

otwok · Post #29 » by **otwok** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 11:00 pm

There is too much to make this claim. First of all, the players would have to pan out. If the players pan out, then how will the Sixers keep the players? You have injuries, trades, free agencies, so many variables. And that is just within the team. Then there are outside influences like how other teams are doing, how they are drafting, who has the best player, any superteams? You can say that in 10 years any team would become a dynasty.

MiltownHawkeye · Post #30 » by **MiltownHawkeye** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 11:09 pm

tmorgan wrote:This is so incredibly stupid. I'm not talking about the Sixers -- that could end any number of ways, including multiple championships -- I'm talking about the article.

Unless the CBA changes, a max player can earn about 35% of the cap. You can't have 3 true max players with contracts signed under the new cap, which is what the Sixers will have if all of Embiid, Noel, and the 3rd pick (not to mention any future guys) pan out that well.

It's called math. Or seriously punitive luxury tax, I suppose, because you need other guys on the roster.

Thank you for addressing this. I thought that part was really stupid too.

The coming cap increases are a blow to their rebuild when you think about it. Having tons of cap space was supposed to be a major asset for them, but now that the figures have come out pretty much every team is going to have cap space. Their comparative advantage there is weakened. That means they'll actually need to be an attractive destination for FAs rather than just a team with a lot of money.

Not that they couldn't be an attractive destination by the merits of their young talent in a couple years, but whether they will be is still up in the air.

logical_art · Post #31 » by **logical_art** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 11:11 pm

I thought this was going to be an Onion story.

turtlesnjoi · Post #32 » by **turtlesnjoi** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 11:41 pm

Once they actually win 20 games we can start talking dynasty. Just 20.

Post #33 » by **Froob** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 11:59 pm

Potentially epic thread.

Post #34 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:05 am

Their are very few dynasties in league history. All were built around a once in a lifetime type of talent.

Post #35 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:12 am

This is all based on hope and potential.

The team needs to at least win more than it loses before it's worth considering this stuff.

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #36 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:17 am

The Timberwolves had Beasley (#2 pick), DWill (#2 pick), Love (#5), Rubio (#5), Flynn (#5), and Wesley Johnson (#4). That's 6 top 6 picks from 2008-2011.

That trumps the 76ers Noel (#6), Embiid (#3) and Russell? (#3), which is only 3 top 6 picks over 3 years.

Minnesota had much more dynasty potential on paper, didn't they?

kenwood3333 · Post #37 » by **kenwood3333** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:21 am

Turn the clock back 10 years ago in 2005, which team tried to build a dynasty back then and what happen now?

Xsy · Post #38 » by **Xsy** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:33 am

There are about five other teams that are just as youthful and talented as the 76ers, but with a lot more wins, and/or proven NBA players. I don't get what makes the 76ers rebuild so special.

ratrac · Post #39 » by **ratrac** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 1:06 am

The author probably only made it, so if it would happen (big if, while obviously I hope it happens, dynasties are very rare), he could point out that he knew it all along and claim himself to be genius. If he is wrong, no one will remember, because it is so much down the line.

Blkbrd671 · Post #40 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 1:06 am

psualltheway5 wrote:
Foye wrote:The short answer to your pretty long OP is: No, they won't.

Interesting that you can say that they won't without any sort of evidence.

Obviously it is too soon to take either position, but you just sound foolish saying this.

1.) its never been done before so there is no evidence
2.) In 10 years, 76er's will not have a dynasty, and at least 1 other teams that have not purposely tanked will have won at least 1 title by then. No i don't have any evidence, but in 10 years when i look back on this, i quite honestly won't give a f* what i predicted cuz its 10 YEARS!!!!!!
3.) Unless the Sixers create a dynasty, this experiment will be a huge failure. 1 title for this much suck i don't think can be considered a success.