What makes the 2016 Warriors any better than the 1997 Bulls?

[Fico92]

2016 Steph Curry > 1997 Michael Jordan

[smallgains]

lol....they aren't.

[mihail_petkov]

I think that Warriors ORTG and DRTG are not accurate to real number because during 1/4 of the season their starters didn't play in the whole forth quarter + a few other quarters where they played only 3-4 minutes. Then their bench kill the difference every time when they come to the floor in already decided games.

As opposed to the Bulls who played their starters 48 minutes.

How many 4th quarters their starters missed?

[Effigy]

Basically the three point proficiency. If they played with the old rules I think GS would get smoked. If they played with today's rules it would get interesting watching MJ foul out the whole GS team or go for 50 every night.

[Frozzy]

Do you guys not get tired of talking about this? Off tops every argument is the same and it's the same posters every week in these threads. Not to mention there's always endless bait/****posting

[mixerball]

kerr is the x factor in this duel. he knows his old team inside and out. warriors win.

[PizzaSteve]

Why do we have a compulsion to rank or compare different teams that are not actually in competition with each other? I think it is our tribal human nature that influences our thinking. We seem doomed to need to form tribes, associate with our tribe and then both within and without, create a hierarchy. Silly stuff.

Which is better, a beautiful, perfect red rose that bloomed in 1980 or a gorgeous, colorful orchid grown in 2016? Neither. Both are perfectly pleasurable to observe. WarriorsEFC, has it right, as quoted above. (In my opinion)

BORING!

97 Bulls FTW. Rodman gets Green ejected in all four games of the sweep. Jordan gets sick of this 'Curry is the GOAT shooter' noise and decides to hit 10 first half 3's, and then instead of a shrug, he grabs his D and shoves his tongue out at Steph. Pippen leaves the games with headaches and Kerr hits the championship winning jumper and cries in sorrow.

True. Fiction is often more entertaining than non-fiction. Enjoy your fantasy novel...I'm off to watch reality TV.

[JeepCSC]

I think that Warriors ORTG and DRTG are not accurate to real number because during 1/4 of the season their starters didn't play in the whole forth quarter + a few other quarters where they played only 3-4 minutes. Then their bench kill the difference every time when they come to the floor in already decided games.

As opposed to the Bulls who played their starters 48 minutes.

How many 4th quarters their starters missed?

Bulls we're pretty beat-up in 1997, so I'd reckon the starters missed quite a few 4th quarters. Longley missed most of the first few months. I think Kukoc missed most of the last couple months. Rodman was hurt to close out the season, and had the long suspension in January obviously. I mean 1998 was when all the injuries started piling up so you couldn't ignore it, but '97 was when the injury bug began.

As of right now, the Warriors players 3-7 have played 400 minutes more than the Bulls players 3-7 did. The main difference is that the top 2 for the Bulls picked up quite a few minutes to make up for players like Caffey having to get so much burn.

[Worm Guts]

They have more wins. Duh.

[stephanieg]

Sometimes I start to think the NBA has changed so much that almost any competent three point shooting team, let alone the Warriors, would annihilate teams from the old eras, even ones from just a couple years ago like the Pistons who struggled to score 85. Then I remember LeBron's broken J, Mozgov, and some cast offs hung in there with them pretty well. It helps that so many teams right now are a dumpster fire.

[BirdIsDaKing]

just imagine Curry and Klay with that shortened late 90s three point line

[Roy The Natural]

just imagine Curry and Klay with that shortened late 90s three point line

Just imagine Curry lasting a whole season in the late 90's

[Spens1]

no, no bad rupert. bad. go back to the UK and leave Aus and take that rubbish cable network foxtel with you (that repeats everything 100 times)

anyway Warriors shoot the ball a lot better

[XxIronChainzxX]

You're right - the 2016 Warriors are probably only as good as one of the best teams in NBA history, and had a few wins break their way to potentially get the Ws record.

[RunTCB]

just imagine Curry and Klay with that shortened late 90s three point line

Just imagine Curry lasting a whole season in the late 90's

Great point, how could anyone with Steph's physique survive the brutal cage match that was the 90's?

[soxfan2003]

Population growth in the US/worldwide and the increased popularity of the NBA plus better nutrition/training means a stronger NBA on average if the NBA isn't watered down by expansion. The Bulls of the 90's benefitted from NBA expansion but the Warriors haven't.

And simply teams have a better approach to the game from advanced stats.

If the NBA doesn't expand in the next 20 years, 72 wins in 2036 more impressive then 72 wins in 2016 which is more impressive than 72 wins in 1996.

I really dislike them but I'd still favor the Shaq/Kobe led Lakers at their best over both GSW and any Bulls squad.

[soxfan2003]

2016 Steph Curry > 1997 Michael Jordan

I'd go even further and say this past regular season, Curry is better than any regular season version of Jordan. Maybe not head to head but just in terms of impact on a good team. Curry just changes the chessboard to a crazy extent. so even in his bad games, teams want to overplay him beyond the arc. It opens up the game a ton for his teammates.

Playoffs are a different story since Curry still has something to prove in comparison to players like Jordan/Lebron. It is not that he has to win another title for him to prove it but he has to be a difference maker in defeat like Jordan was normally. Lebron and Jordan's most impressive playoff performance were sometimes in defeat.

[JeepCSC]

Population growth isn't everything. Basketball participation in high school reached its height in the late 70s. There was a crash soon after as the last of the baby boomers graduated (which preceded the talent crash in the NBA that happened 20 years later when the boomers retired). Even today we aren't making as many babies as we did then. At any rate, between participation and demographics, the domestic basketball pool has never recovered to where it was then.

[pelican piranha]

2016 Steph Curry > 1997 Michael Jordan

I'd go even further and say this past regular season, Curry is better than any regular season version of Jordan. Maybe not head to head but just in terms of impact on a good team. Curry just changes the chessboard to a crazy extent. so even in his bad games, teams want to overplay him beyond the arc. It opens up the game a ton for his teammates.

Playoffs are a different story since Curry still has something to prove in comparison to players like Jordan/Lebron. It is not that he has to win another title for him to prove it but he has to be a difference maker in defeat like Jordan was normally. Lebron and Jordan's most impressive playoff performance were sometimes in defeat.

Please stop. Do we even take defense into account?

[Dr Aki]

Who cares which one was better really? They're both two of the most entertaining and dominating teams in NBA history and I'm really glad to have grown up with the Bulls and now I get to watch the Warriors.

cos my team was better than your team

come on, this argument has been happening since the beginning of time in 50 million different variations everyday