The Hawks Have To Have A Shakeup Right?

[Geaux_Hawks]

Things are tight in the Eastern Conference. If Hawks keep their team together and Korver gets healthy they could be 2nd seed again.

Why blow up a squad that plays well together.

Because Cleveland has swept us back to back years, and we're an old team, without much in terms of prospects to develop.

[Slava]

Things are tight in the Eastern Conference. If Hawks keep their team together and Korver gets healthy they could be 2nd seed again.

Why blow up a squad that plays well together.

There is a valid argument for retooling. As it stands they cannot win a playoff game against the Cavs unless Lebron leaves in free agency or gets injured so its worth thinking about and probably consider moving pieces to get some fresh faces in and take some risks on 70-30 trades.

Total tear down is still off the cards though, they need to make the playoffs to keep ownership of the team sustainable.

[Jagic Mohnson]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

[King Ken]

We aren't blowing it up. Yes, we know you want our players for 10 cents on the dollar.

Not happening. We're bringing back Horford and we are keeping Teague and Dennis unless an attractive offer is on the table.

Have a nice day.

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[0to100]

It is pretty clear that many people in this thread don't watch the Hawks and I could care less. But some of the statements here are pretty ridiculous. We actually had a shakeup when we let Josh Smith go and signed Millsap 2013 and last year we won 60 games. But now the new team is getting old and our main problem is that we don't have a superstar player. If we could sign a good SG/SF who has star potential or who can score in the playoffs when things get though we could actually matchup against Cleveland very well.

[Jagic Mohnson]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal. That said, they should trade Teague and Splitter to the Rockets for Ariza and Brewer. Rockets need a PG and a center and Hawks get a sf/sg because Bazemore is gone. Then trade Korver to the Clippers for Wesley Johnson. The Hawks put a slow defender , Milsap on Lebron. You need a along athletic guy like Ariza and Wes Johnson. Hawks need to resign Horford and reunite him with his college teammate Brewer.

Hawks Lineup.

Horford
Milsap
Ariza
Brewer
Schroeder

[Rich2Hassan]

Their in treadmill land, coach is overrated, no true star player, horrible fans. Blow it up

[mtron929]

If they wanted to blow it up, the chance was midseason where they could have traded some of their players (especially Horford). I realize that sunk cost is in play here but regardless, it would look really bad if they blew it now by getting rid of Horford (and getting nothing for return) and not having a low draft pick this year because they essentially did not do a mini-blowup midseason.

[Mik317]

Built for the regular season.

Not for the playoffs

[og15]

Retool, don't rebuild, rebuilding is not some magical solution. If you have enough talent to win, don't just dump it all, but yes you do want to improve your talent or adjust the team makeup.

[og15]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal. That said, they should trade Teague and Splitter to the Rockets for Ariza and Brewer. Rockets need a PG and a center and Hawks get a sf/sg because Bazemore is gone. Then trade Korver to the Clippers for Wesley Johnson. The Hawks put a slow defender , Milsap on Lebron. You need a along athletic guy like Ariza and Wes Johnson. Hawks need to resign Horford and reunite him with his college teammate Brewer.

Hawks Lineup.

Horford
Milsap
Ariza
Brewer
Schroeder

Brewer is not a good defender or player and isn't he signed for like $8 million a year for another 2 years.

[AussieCeltic]

They've got a great team that just needs some tweaks. Signing Millsap elevated them another level a few years back. If they can get some ring protection along with an upgrade at the 2-3 position, then they're right in the thick of things. It's not easy, but it's much better than blowing it up to "hopefully" get better in 4-5 years time.

[King Ken]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal. That said, they should trade Teague and Splitter to the Rockets for Ariza and Brewer. Rockets need a PG and a center and Hawks get a sf/sg because Bazemore is gone. Then trade Korver to the Clippers for Wesley Johnson. The Hawks put a slow defender , Milsap on Lebron. You need a along athletic guy like Ariza and Wes Johnson. Hawks need to resign Horford and reunite him with his college teammate Brewer.

Hawks Lineup.

Horford
Milsap
Ariza
Brewer
Schroeder

Brewer is not a good defender or player and isn't he signed for like $8 million a year for another 2 years.

We don't need any more mediocre vets. Obvious no to Ariza and Brewer. Much rather have both Jeff and Dennis then more one dimensional players.

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[Jagic Mohnson]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal. That said, they should trade Teague and Splitter to the Rockets for Ariza and Brewer. Rockets need a PG and a center and Hawks get a sf/sg because Bazemore is gone. Then trade Korver to the Clippers for Wesley Johnson. The Hawks put a slow defender , Milsap on Lebron. You need a along athletic guy like Ariza and Wes Johnson. Hawks need to resign Horford and reunite him with his college teammate Brewer.

Hawks Lineup.

Horford
Milsap
Ariza
Brewer
Schroeder

Brewer is not a good defender or player and isn't he signed for like $8 million a year for another 2 years.

You can hide bad defenders. Lakers went to the finals with Radmanovic. Granted, the Celtics whooped them in the finals but Ariza and Bynum were injured. I think Teague and Splitter make 16 mill total just like Ariza and Brewer so salaries match. Brewer and Splitter is a push talent wise but Ariza brings a defensive/offensive sf. Korver is useless just like wes johnson but at least wes johnson can bang with lebron on defense.

[King Ken]

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal. That said, they should trade Teague and Splitter to the Rockets for Ariza and Brewer. Rockets need a PG and a center and Hawks get a sf/sg because Bazemore is gone. Then trade Korver to the Clippers for Wesley Johnson. The Hawks put a slow defender , Milsap on Lebron. You need a along athletic guy like Ariza and Wes Johnson. Hawks need to resign Horford and reunite him with his college teammate Brewer.

Hawks Lineup.

Horford
Milsap
Ariza
Brewer
Schroeder

Brewer is not a good defender or player and isn't he signed for like $8 million a year for another 2 years.

You can hide bad defenders. Lakers went to the finals with Radmanovic. Granted, the Celtics whooped them in the finals but Ariza and Bynum were injured. I think Teague and Splitter make 16 mill total just like Ariza and Brewer so salaries match. Brewer and Splitter is a push talent wise but Ariza brings a defensive/offensive sf. Korver is useless just like wes johnson but at least wes johnson can bang with lebron on defense.

Stop it, the last thing we need is mediocre players. The last thing we need is that. We need a baller. Maybe a young baller who isn't ready to start right now but we need a baller. Hezonja, Aaron Gordon, Noel, Okafor, etc. That's what we need for Teague. Anything less isn't even close.

Obviously, we would love Butler or George which is a clear no. Or a top tier SF like Kris Middleton but that's a no as well. But we got 17 plus million in cap space. We can sign someone off the scrap heap like Bazemore and develop someone to be in the mode of Kent or Carroll. We got one of the best player development systems in the NBA. We can find a way but trading top tier players for ****, not interested.

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[giberish]

A lot of rebuilds never get as good as Atlanta is right now (or they have to go through 3-5 restarts before finally hitting on a team that's as good as Atlanta). They're close enough to title contention that plugging away and hoping for something unlikely to hit and push them up a tier (like Draymond Green becoming a top-10 player, obviously GS couldn't plan that) is a better bet then perpetual rebuilding.

[observer1995]

One thing this team needs to start doing is to actually TRY to upgrade the wing corps instead of signing scrap heap wings and starting a specialist that shouldn't start. Honestly both of the wing players that started most of the games should not start, but there really is no other option on the team.

At least try.

Overall they may be fine with being the Memphis/Dallas outside of 10/11 of the East though and I'm not sure I 100% agree with that.

[Anticon]

The Hawks play the right way, but that isn't good enough. They need someone with some cojones who can put on a true playoff performance.

All of the teams still in the playoffs all have someone like that, even the non-contenders (Wade, Lowry, Lillard).

If that's your playoff ceiling, arguably, Chicago and Indiana and even Washington and Charlotte have more potential than Atlanta.

[King Ken]

One thing this team needs to start doing is to actually TRY to upgrade the wing corps instead of signing scrap heap wings and starting a specialist that shouldn't start. Honestly both of the wing players that started most of the games should not start, but there really is no other option on the team.

At least try.

Overall they may be fine with being the Memphis/Dallas outside of 10/11 of the East though and I'm not sure I 100% agree with that.

I agree, we need legit players at the wing. Like a Luol Deng or a Batum. At very worse, above average SFs like Rudy Gay or Jeff Green. At SG, I am fine with Korver but in the playoffs, we need an upgrade. Hopefully Tim Hardaway Jr development will be as ample as Bazemore and Carroll. He shown flashes


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[dalton749]

They need to find a way to get Murray in the draft. Perfect fit along side Schroeder as their future backcourt.