LeBron is leading the NBA finals in PPG/RPG/APG/SPG/MPG

ppedro123 · Post #21 » by **ppedro123** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:39 pm

StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

he'll find a way to put up pretty stats in the end, win FMVP and people will start comparing him to peak jordan/lebron again. ridiculous

Post #22 » by **ken6199** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:16 pm

StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

Time has changed. You don't need a best player in the series to win a series - all you need is the best team. I hope the league do the right thing and stops handling FMVP only to a player from the winning team.

jpengland · Post #23 » by **jpengland** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:23 pm

ppedro123 wrote:
StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

he'll find a way to put up pretty stats in the end, win FMVP and people will start comparing him to peak jordan/lebron again. ridiculous

Regardless of how his stats look, if GSW close out this series he will have done what is needed to lead his team to back to back championships and fbe greatest regular season of all time. That will rightly place him up there with the all time greats IMO.

Curry understands this is a team game and can sit back and absorb the defensive attention and allow others to take shots when it works best for his team. That is something to be applauded, not mocked.

Hes already the GOAT all time shooter IMO and is undoubtedly the leader and key player on this all time great team.

ppedro123 · Post #24 » by **ppedro123** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:25 pm

jpengland wrote:
ppedro123 wrote:
StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

he'll find a way to put up pretty stats in the end, win FMVP and people will start comparing him to peak jordan/lebron again. ridiculous

Regardless of how his stats look, if GSW close out this series he will have done what is needed to lead his team to back to back championships and fbe greatest regular season of all time. That will rightly place him up there with the all time greats IMO.

Curry understands this is a team game and can sit back and absorb the defensive attention and allow others to take shots when it works best for his team. That is something to be applauded, not mocked.

Hes already the GOAT all time shooter IMO and is undoubtedly the leader and key player on this all time great team.

defensive attention? Dude's amazing but Golden State blew Cleveland out of the bulding in games 1 and 2 with Steph sitting on the bench.

is he amazing? yes. is he playing poorly? yes. he'll play better tho

Curry's had an all time great regular season and he's indeed the GOAT all time shooter but he's not the player peak Jordan and peak LeBron were. You just need to have 2 eyes to see this.

dabonett · Post #25 » by **dabonett** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:27 pm

So a team whose top players are mid 1st round picks is more talented than one with two first top picks ( basically 3)?

ppedro123 · Post #26 » by **ppedro123** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:27 pm

dabonett wrote:So a team whose top players are mid 1st round picks is more talented than one with two first top picks ( basically 3)?

i hope you are joking.

Rastas · Post #27 » by **Rastas** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:29 pm

Just LeBron LeBroning nothing new , he done this most of his career.

Whether you love or hate him you cant deny his greatness ( though I'm sure Skip Bayless or even JordansBulls would offer a good argument against ).

LLJ · Post #28 » by **LLJ** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:34 pm

Stop me if you're heard this one before: LeBron Needs More Help

Hindenburg · Post #29 » by **Hindenburg** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:34 pm

He is going to be so physically and mentally worn out by game 5-6.

ckman · Post #30 » by **ckman** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:48 pm

ken6199 wrote:
StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

Time has changed. You don't need a best player in the series to win a series - all you need is the best team. I hope the league do the right thing and stops handling FMVP only to a player from the winning team.

I like it though , i think its meaningless giving it to a player from the losing team. I remember how **** Messi face was when he received his golden ball award in last world cup final.
Just take it as a reward for the best player of the champion.

Black Jack · Post #31 » by **Black Jack** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:54 pm

JimmerAllStar wrote:This tells me that if the Warriors win the Finals, then Draymond Green should be Finals MVP. He's the only Warriors player that is top 3 on all those lists. Where is Steph Curry? Well, he's being shut out by a team that is taking away the only thing he can do.

Its so silly that the MVP has to be from the winner. The dubs can win the next two games and if the stats split stays the same, LeBron should win MVP.

LivingLegend · Post #32 » by **LivingLegend** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:57 pm

not one single MVP vote huh?

Post #33 » by **ken6199** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:03 pm

ckman wrote:
ken6199 wrote:
StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

Time has changed. You don't need a best player in the series to win a series - all you need is the best team. I hope the league do the right thing and stops handling FMVP only to a player from the winning team.

I like it though , i think its meaningless giving it to a player from the losing team. I remember how **** Messi face was when he received his golden ball award in last world cup final.
Just take it as a reward for the best player of the champion.

In BPL, PFA Players' Player of the Year award commonly goes to a player from a non-championship team. NBA title is as big as an award it gets and that's the ultimate reward by itself. FMVP, as recognition to individual accomplishment, doesn't need to come from the finals winning team just like regular season MVP does not need to come from the team with the best record.

Messi deserved that golden ball more than anybody, as much as Germany deserved the cup as a team.

bmurph128 · Post #34 » by **bmurph128** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:06 pm

It's just insane that people still think Curry is the best player in the NBA. He's not even in the same league as LeBron.

Having said that, as the leader of the team, he can't let the Cavs get into ISO ball. I have no idea who the better team is in this series, which is what will make tonight interesting. But if the Cavs lose this series, you can contribute it to not having home court and no playing great defense, as well as LeBron's leadership in not overcoming those odds.

But his play? Curry cannot possibly become a better basketball player than LeBron.

JimmerAllStar · Post #35 » by **JimmerAllStar** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:10 pm

jpengland wrote:
ppedro123 wrote:
StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

he'll find a way to put up pretty stats in the end, win FMVP and people will start comparing him to peak jordan/lebron again. ridiculous

Regardless of how his stats look, if GSW close out this series he will have done what is needed to lead his team to back to back championships and fbe greatest regular season of all time. That will rightly place him up there with the all time greats IMO.

Curry understands this is a team game and can sit back and absorb the defensive attention and allow others to take shots when it works best for his team. That is something to be applauded, not mocked.

Hes already the GOAT all time shooter IMO and is undoubtedly the leader and key player on this all time great team.

If the Finals was a game of HORSE and the Warriors won, then yes maybe Steph gets the FMVP. But you can't overlook the impact of Draymond Green since the game of basketball is more than individual scoring. Green is 1st in points for his team, 1st in rebounds for this team, 1st in assists for his team, 1st in minutes played for his team, and 1st in steals for his team. That to me is more leading a team than a guy who only scores from shooting the 3ball. If a player only does one thing well but is the bottom in every other stat, then that guy is a ROLE player.

Post #36 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:10 pm

jpengland wrote:Everybody jumps to believe the secret to GSW success is the small ball model - It isn't. It's building a roster with team first guys who buy into a culture. Curry doesn't care if he wins MVP as long as he wins the title.

Even further than that very important point - they have a team that is very flexible. They can go big, they can go small, if one guy isn't hitting the 3s, there are several more that can step in. They have multiple guys that can handle the ball adequately to outstanding.

BTW - I know Jerry West won finals MVP when his team lost the series. I don't think anyone else has. I do believe LeBron should have won it last year and it is still possible this year but in this "win or go home" society, losing seldom earns respect, even for the best.

NBAfan3024 · Post #37 » by **NBAfan3024** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:16 pm

StatLine wrote:so even if GSW wins, steph aint getting the fmvp lol

depends what happens next few games

one big 30 point game is likely enough as nobody else is standing out

baller16 · Post #38 » by **baller16** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:19 pm

Curry officially says he doesn't care about being FMVP.

Curry claims he doesn’t care too much about that, though. “As long as it’s somebody from our team,”

Never call this guy a GOAT player ever again. The guy is so mentally weak.

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/steph-curry-finals-mvp/

Carlos_Danger · Post #39 » by **Carlos_Danger** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:20 pm

Not surprising at all. I get the Warriors and Curry having a bunch of band-wagon riders, and they're a great team and he's a great MVP, but it's shocking how many of them are completely delusional and actually think Curry is a better player than LeBron. This guy's only hurdle for GOAT is Michael Jordan, and he's already surpassed him for #1 all-time in Playoffs Win Shares, Box Score +/-, and Value over Replacement player. He's #3 in Playoffs PER. Regular season wise he's on track to become the #1 all-time scorer and pass Kareem, and on track to become #2 all-time in assists behind only Stockton. He's #1 all time in +/- and VORP during the regular season, #2 in PER behind only Jordan, and up to #8 all-time now in Win shares.

Steph Curry is the greatest 3-point jump shooter I've ever seen (Jordan was superior in the mid-range) and will be an all-time great and HOFer. But he not on the same level of LeBron James.

lambchop · Post #40 » by **lambchop** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:25 pm

baller16 wrote:Curry officially says he doesn't care about being FMVP.

Curry claims he doesn’t care too much about that, though. “As long as it’s somebody from our team,”

Never call this guy a GOAT player ever again. The guy is so mentally weak.

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/steph-curry-finals-mvp/

I'm not a curry fan, but mentally weak is inappropriate. He single-handedly chnged the outocome of sooo many games this season. Was injury-riddled but then worked on his body and improved in all areas of the game. Work ethic and dedication are part of mental grit too.

He has religiously strugled in the finals, but thats about the only time hes been 'mentally weak'. He's still a beast, even if he doesnt have that finals domination mentality