Embiid's ceiling: Hakeem or Shaq level.

qwerty1234 · Post #21 » by **qwerty1234** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:37 am

At this point he'll be lucky to top Oden. We've been talking about his potential (2 years) longer than he has displayed any (half a college season). I'd gladly eat my words in order to see a generational star play, but these lingering comparisons are starting to become irrational.

GregOden · Post #22 » by **GregOden** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:44 am

If he ends up even as good as Rik Smits that would be a miracle.

76thBearCub · Post #23 » by **76thBearCub** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:02 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:
Milbuck wrote:Like 80% of the posts in this thread will be people clowning him on some level...

Assuming that was the intention for posting this thread.

Will this player that hasn't played in 2 years be on Hakeem's and Shaq's level? Seems like a serious topic created by a Lakers' fan.

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dorkestra · Post #24 » by **dorkestra** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:10 am

I'd like to see him finish his career before I risk giving an opinion that could be proven wrong

pb-ceo · Post #25 » by **pb-ceo** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:58 am

his ceiling might be NCAA basketball. no crime in that...

alexb618 · Post #26 » by **alexb618** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:19 am

emeka okafor

I beg to differ · Post #27 » by **I beg to differ** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:27 am

A poor man's rather decent player.

Post #28 » by **Goudelock** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:29 am

eskimo wrote:With the growth spurt I think it's hard to comp him to Hakeem anymore.

He doesn't have the sheer power or girth as Shaq and will play a totally different style.

I think the closest comp is Kareem. He is the only guy with that kind of size, skill and athleticism that the game has seen. The kid has amazing ability to pick up things quickly and only started playing basketball in 2010 or 2011. He starts 2013 coming off the bench at Kansas and within 20 games he is the concensus #1 pick in the draft over the pre-ordained next great ones, Jabari and Wiggins. The big question is health but the foot has fully healed now and he doesn't seem to have lost anything. He has taken the time to strengthen and remold his body and improve the finesse components of his game.

Embiid is what "The Process" was all about.

I guess the Hakeem comparisons weren't enough for (one of) you Sixer fans. No, you are now comparing him to arguably the greatest player in the history of basketball. I've seen it all.

PS: To the Lakers fan who made this thread, I think that this thread would've gone better if you had just put the title as "Embiid's Ceiling" and left it at that.

dorkestra · Post #29 » by **dorkestra** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:32 am

PockyCandy wrote:
eskimo wrote:With the growth spurt I think it's hard to comp him to Hakeem anymore.

He doesn't have the sheer power or girth as Shaq and will play a totally different style.

I think the closest comp is Kareem. He is the only guy with that kind of size, skill and athleticism that the game has seen. The kid has amazing ability to pick up things quickly and only started playing basketball in 2010 or 2011. He starts 2013 coming off the bench at Kansas and within 20 games he is the concensus #1 pick in the draft over the pre-ordained next great ones, Jabari and Wiggins. The big question is health but the foot has fully healed now and he doesn't seem to have lost anything. He has taken the time to strengthen and remold his body and improve the finesse components of his game.

Embiid is what "The Process" was all about.

I guess the Hakeem comparisons weren't enough for (one of) you Sixer fans. No, you are now comparing him to arguably the greatest player in the history of basketball. I've seen it all.

PS: To the Lakers fan who made this thread, I think that this thread would've gone better if you had just put the title as "Embiid's Ceiling" and left it at that.

If I've been reading this thread correctly, it's called doubling down on the counter-troll.

Post #30 » by **Goudelock** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:53 am

dorkestra wrote:
PockyCandy wrote:
eskimo wrote:With the growth spurt I think it's hard to comp him to Hakeem anymore.

He doesn't have the sheer power or girth as Shaq and will play a totally different style.

I think the closest comp is Kareem. He is the only guy with that kind of size, skill and athleticism that the game has seen. The kid has amazing ability to pick up things quickly and only started playing basketball in 2010 or 2011. He starts 2013 coming off the bench at Kansas and within 20 games he is the concensus #1 pick in the draft over the pre-ordained next great ones, Jabari and Wiggins. The big question is health but the foot has fully healed now and he doesn't seem to have lost anything. He has taken the time to strengthen and remold his body and improve the finesse components of his game.

Embiid is what "The Process" was all about.

I guess the Hakeem comparisons weren't enough for (one of) you Sixer fans. No, you are now comparing him to arguably the greatest player in the history of basketball. I've seen it all.

PS: To the Lakers fan who made this thread, I think that this thread would've gone better if you had just put the title as "Embiid's Ceiling" and left it at that.

If I've been reading this thread correctly, it's called doubling down on the counter-troll.

It's late, so I probably haven't been reading it correctly :lol:

God Squad · Post #31 » by **God Squad** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:56 am

One can argue he's the most overhyped player in realgm history. The comparisons alone and he hasn't played a single game.

God Squad · Post #32 » by **God Squad** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:57 am

For fun I'll say Hakeem. He looks more skilled than Shaq.

Winsome Gerbil · Post #33 » by **Winsome Gerbil** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:01 am

Wow. I'm eager to see what the kid has got, but a thread about which Top 10 all time (Hakeem might be #11) center is his ceiling is ridiculously premature.

BismackonLebron · Post #34 » by **BismackonLebron** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:09 am

His ceiling is made of glass. Tap too hard in the wrong spot and he shatters.

Post #35 » by **Mr. E** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:25 am

In general when trying to establish the potential of an unproven player it is best to not use two Hall of Fame players as the either/or of the comparison.

Also, what is the margin here? No matter how you may rate one over the other, Hakeem & Shaq are pretty much at the very top of the list when comparing all-time centers.

dautjazz · Post #36 » by **dautjazz** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:30 am

Lol Hakeem or Shaq? Slow down, right now he looks more like Oden.

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gordeng · Post #37 » by **gordeng** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:38 am

Honestly he's a bust at this point. If he can at least end up being a decent basketball player at all that's worth celebrating.

joedumars1 · Post #38 » by **joedumars1** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:39 am

God Squad wrote:One can argue he's the most overhyped player in realgm history. The comparisons alone and he hasn't played a single game.

You're not lying, but his talent is crazy. Now can he get of the floor and play

Sofia · Post #39 » by **Sofia** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:41 am

Jordan basement

Scalabrine ceiling

Modulate · Post #40 » by **Modulate** » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:42 am

Unfortunately his foot is f-ed up. Bad feet for big men are tragic. It screws them completely. For 7 footers, it's a complete disaster scenario. And it's costed Joel 2 seasons already. He hasn't even played in the NBA yet.

I loved his potential but at this point, it seems like it'd take a miracle just to get him out of rehab, on the bench and eventually into the rotation. That's his real ceiling right now - serviceable big guy. Once he hits that level, then he can start working his way up.