ECQF: P2 | (2) Cleveland Cavaliers vs Indiana Pacers (7) | CLE 4-0

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Cavaliers in 4
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Cavaliers in 5
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Pacers in 7
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Post#21 » by Dupp » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:47 pm

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>two top five players in their respective positions
>roster full of good three point shooters
>rotation almost ten players deep

I hope you're being sarcastic.



I think you're both wrong really. It's a good cast but not that good. Easily his worst team since first cavs stint.

*Bad bench
*Bad coach
*Do we bat 10 deep? Who knows lue won't let us find out
*Terrible defensivley across the board
*Kyrie, debatable if he's not 5 pg most say no but if we get last year playoff Kyrie id agree. He's not that in the reg season and he's injury prone and currently injury affected. Also borderline worst defender in the NBA
* love? I dunno I don't rate him at all. Little impact when it matters but top 5 may be fair. I could find 5 pfs id eaaily rather but maybe that's just me.


That seems crazy to me. The bench was pure garbage his first year back. Half those guys aren't even in the league anymore. We lost Delly & Mozgov from last year but picked up D. Will & Korver.

Same coach but he's running out of time to figure out what works with rotations.

Defense is sketchy but a lot of that seems to be an effort thing to me. I think we'll get caught slipping in one of these playoff games but I expect us to respond afterwards.

Kyrie is Kyrie. He's capable of having incredible offensive games against even good defenses. I don't know how you beat the Warriors with that The thing for me is with Kyrie is how Lue handles him. I've been encouraged that Lue isn't having him run the second unit as much this post season.

You and I really disagree about Love. No need to rehash.


Like i said I think it's a pretty good cast just very flawed because of one way players and bad defense. I actually think we are more talented than last year but injuries and just guys playing worse than last year have made us worse.

Delly was legit a big loss. I know he's sucked in Milwaukee but he brought it defensivley and had goat chemistry with bron and tt. Lebron playing with delly and the second unit was really great last year. Lue had something really good going now bench **** the beds and he hasn't found the right rotations all year.

Love can certainly still prove me wrong. I do like the guy.

Yeah accountability is a big problem with Kyrie. He's never put in his place or pulled for bad defense. Game 3 it was good to see him benched. Imagine if Lebron gel Kyrie as accountable as genies TT? You never see him go off at Kyrie even though he makes the not defensive mistakes and give less effort than anyone in the team. But from all reports Lebron and Kyrie really just ain't that close and had to really work on their relationship where as tt and bron get along pretty good.
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Post#22 » by jbk1234 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:51 pm

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I think you're both wrong really. It's a good cast but not that good. Easily his worst team since first cavs stint.

*Bad bench
*Bad coach
*Do we bat 10 deep? Who knows lue won't let us find out
*Terrible defensivley across the board
*Kyrie, debatable if he's not 5 pg most say no but if we get last year playoff Kyrie id agree. He's not that in the reg season and he's injury prone and currently injury affected. Also borderline worst defender in the NBA
* love? I dunno I don't rate him at all. Little impact when it matters but top 5 may be fair. I could find 5 pfs id eaaily rather but maybe that's just me.


That seems crazy to me. The bench was pure garbage his first year back. Half those guys aren't even in the league anymore. We lost Delly & Mozgov from last year but picked up D. Will & Korver.

Same coach but he's running out of time to figure out what works with rotations.

Defense is sketchy but a lot of that seems to be an effort thing to me. I think we'll get caught slipping in one of these playoff games but I expect us to respond afterwards.

Kyrie is Kyrie. He's capable of having incredible offensive games against even good defenses. I don't know how you beat the Warriors with that The thing for me is with Kyrie is how Lue handles him. I've been encouraged that Lue isn't having him run the second unit as much this post season.

You and I really disagree about Love. No need to rehash.


Like i said I think it's a pretty good cast just very flawed because of one way players and bad defense. I actually think we are more talented than last year but injuries and just guys playing worse than last year have made us worse.

Delly was legit a big loss. I know he's sucked in Milwaukee but he brought it defensivley and had goat chemistry with bron and tt. Lebron playing with delly and the second unit was really great last year. Lue had something really good going now bench **** the beds and he hasn't found the right rotations all year.

Love can certainly still prove me wrong. I do like the guy.

Yeah accountability is a big problem with Kyrie. He's never put in his place or pulled for bad defense. Game 3 it was good to see him benched. Imagine if Lebron gel Kyrie as accountable as genies TT? You never see him go off at Kyrie even though he makes the not defensive mistakes and give less effort than anyone in the team. But from all reports Lebron and Kyrie really just ain't that close and had to really work on their relationship where as tt and bron get along pretty good.


We'll be fine so long as Kyrie isn't in charge of the second unit. Lue's discovering what M. Brown learned. Having another PG out there with Kyrie doesn't matter if Kyrie won't give up the ball. I'd like to see Love in with D. Will while LBJ & Kyrie rest together.
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Post#23 » by NyKnicks1714 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:37 am

The Cavs can guarantee themselves a week of rest tomorrow; could be valuable considering the minutes LeBron is playing.
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Post#24 » by Warchant » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:01 pm

Here we go w LB tired again lol
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Post#25 » by jswede » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:10 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:The Cavs can guarantee themselves a week of rest tomorrow; could be valuable considering the minutes LeBron is playing.


We need to get a timer running bc one of these minutes he's just gonna say 'no mas'... You seem to be sure of it.
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Post#26 » by Birdie » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:52 pm

Well, we're gonna see very soon if McMillian's motivational tool to get Teague going by bringing up to him that he's been swept by LBJ & CLE and currently 0-10 against us the past 3 years. Either Teague gonna come out in attack mode or he's gonna come out shellshocked and ready to go fishin' by bricking IND out of the game.

While I don't disagree with Coach's tactic to fire up his guy (as I think Teague is a big part of Indy staying competitive with CLE) but this could also backfire as Teague seems to be that kind of player where something like this could nag at him as opposed to just being free to play. I think the odds of a close game or blowout hover around 60/40. If CLE can keep the crowd out of it early, I think there is a good chance CLE "could" control this game throughout.

I hope Kyrie comes out with the killer instinct to end this today and get the week off. Let's gooooooo!
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Post#27 » by Froob » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:57 pm

Here we go, let's get this **** show over with. I'd give Pacers a lot of props if they fight today. Not seeing it though.
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Post#28 » by Birdie » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:01 pm

Oh no, Hubie Brown. Ugh. :(
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Post#29 » by M1nd » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:13 pm

Probably last game for PG as a pacer?
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Post#30 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:16 pm

Cavs need Frye in there instead of love
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Post#31 » by dr3am » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:17 pm

The fans in the arena just know this series is over... Can't recall the last time I Heard Indy fans so quiet/dead.

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Post#32 » by therealbig3 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:18 pm

Wtf was JR Smith doing. Made absolutely no effort to get back into the play and contest the shot, and George got a wide open 3.
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Post#33 » by Dupp » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:19 pm

Lol Lebron sounding like prime pau gasol out there every time he drives .. EYYY!
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Post#34 » by Laure » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:19 pm

Hopefully George empties the clip today, he deserves it. The talent that surrounds him is pure garbage - an average point guard, a sophomore center who somehow declined from his rookie season and a bunch of lousy shooters.
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Post#35 » by Birdie » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:19 pm

dr3am wrote:The fans in the arena just know this series is over... Can't recall the last time I Heard Indy fans so quiet/dead.

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Yea, such a weird energy so far from the crowd. It's like they want to go nuts but I think, knowing how they went nuts in that 1st half explosion in Game 3, they don't want to celebrate too hard knowing it can be blown.
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Post#36 » by +2number4+ » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:20 pm

M1nd wrote:Probably last game for PG as a pacer?

Probably. Just like next century probably will be the end of the world.

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Post#37 » by Birdie » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:36 pm

LOL. I don't get you Lue. That last 1:30min of the 1st offense was let Kyrie go 1on1 is just so trash. Yea, he got some buckets but man, all his shots were challenged. That's what loses us games or turns a tie game into a 10pt deficit when LBJ gets his 2sec of rest during a game.

Frye had a mismatch on Teague, Kyrie oblivious. TT had a rim run to wide open space. Kyrie blind. Sometimes I wonder if Kyrie even is aware how open his teammates are when he's dribbling up a storm on the other side of the court.

Ky/Love need to get their heads out their a$$ and help support LBJ in closing this out or we're gonna have to play another game we shouldn't have to. Our offensive energy was poop. Defense was alright though.
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Post#38 » by B-Ball Freak » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:38 pm

Hope the Pacers win...I don't want to see any sweeps
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Post#39 » by Tigersrule » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:40 pm

Monta is such a bum..cries everytime he doesnt get a call
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Post#40 » by Tigersrule » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:42 pm

D Will has been a problem...finaly playin well for the Cavs

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