Would Lebron, Durant, and Kawhi...

[Johnny Firpo]

obviously people who would say yes are the ones without RL basketball exp. extra man is huge. 2 extra men is not a brainer.

But we are talking about upper echelon players, with ridiculous athleticism and wingspans, two elite shooters, and all of them are two-way superstars. Would you agree that four NBA MVPs (or MVP level players like Kawhi) would beat even the best college teams? I think you surely agree with that. If you do, then the cutoff point has to be three players, but then that is a legitimate debate imo. Two players would never have a chance, but I think three could do it, if they are Durant, Lebron and Kawhi.

[afarmenian]

obviously people who would say yes are the ones without RL basketball exp. extra man is huge. 2 extra men is not a brainer.

But we are talking about upper echelon players, with ridiculous athleticism and wingspans, two elite shooters, and absolutely superstars. Would you agree that four NBA MVPs (or MVP level players like Kawhi) would beat even the best college teams? I think you surely agree with that. If you do, then the cutoff point has to be three players, but that is a legitimate debate imo.

Its not, when you consider you can park a guy at the other end for a layup every single possession and STILL play 4 v 3 then its not a debate at all.

[Johnny Firpo]

obviously people who would say yes are the ones without RL basketball exp. extra man is huge. 2 extra men is not a brainer.

But we are talking about upper echelon players, with ridiculous athleticism and wingspans, two elite shooters, and absolutely superstars. Would you agree that four NBA MVPs (or MVP level players like Kawhi) would beat even the best college teams? I think you surely agree with that. If you do, then the cutoff point has to be three players, but that is a legitimate debate imo.

Its not, when you consider you can park a guy at the other end for a layup every single possession and STILL play 4 v 3 then its not a debate at all.

Fine, then you can't do that (btw, it wouldn't be a layup on every possession, one of the three could sprint back as soon as the shot is off, they would take turns sprinting back).

[afarmenian]

But we are talking about upper echelon players, with ridiculous athleticism and wingspans, two elite shooters, and absolutely superstars. Would you agree that four NBA MVPs (or MVP level players like Kawhi) would beat even the best college teams? I think you surely agree with that. If you do, then the cutoff point has to be three players, but that is a legitimate debate imo.

Its not, when you consider you can park a guy at the other end for a layup every single possession and STILL play 4 v 3 then its not a debate at all.

Fine, then you can't do that (btw, it wouldn't be a layup on every possession, one of the three could sprint back as soon as the shot is off, they would take turns sprinting back).

Oh yeah that would only work 80 percent of the time. I am sure having to sprint back on D all game and only kinda playing offense wouldnt be another huge disadvantage.

[LloydFree]

3 NBA SUPERSTARS against 5 college players?

I'm going with the MVPs

That's not the question. If it's one game... Maybe. Those guys aren't winning 6 games though. There is no way a Hall of Fame college coach, with 4 days to prepare, can't figure out how to beat 3 players.

[mixerball]

obviously people who would say yes are the ones without RL basketball exp. extra man is huge. 2 extra men is not a brainer.

But we are talking about upper echelon players, with ridiculous athleticism and wingspans, two elite shooters, and all of them are two-way superstars. Would you agree that four NBA MVPs (or MVP level players like Kawhi) would beat even the best college teams? I think you surely agree with that. If you do, then the cutoff point has to be three players, but then that is a legitimate debate imo. Two players would never have a chance, but I think three could do it, if they are Durant, Lebron and Kawhi.

i think its just a fantasy debate. in reality it wouldnt work. teams would get ready for 3 players. in alabama game they had to act on the fly and they were quite dumbfounded about it. their coach was obviously incompetent. and they still won the game.

maybe they win a game with crazy fg percentage and a lot of friendly superstar calls against scared players . but thats one game. and even that is a maybe.

when i was young at 15(euro club basketball) we played 18-21 year old guys who were already playing for the club in the first divison. it was a litle fun training at the end of practice. we played 3 vs 5 and 1 vs 2 obviously in the favor of 15s. we were old enough to know how to play. and as we found out a litle passing is all it took to completely disarm them. it was actually a great passing practice for us and a defense one for them but once we figured it out they were helpless. in offense they did ok cause they were alot bigger and stronger but with constant doubleing we stole a lot of balls. in the end they didnt win one game.

[DaddyCool19]

How about adding 2 average Rec League guys next to them who can't be taller than 6'3 and were scurbs on a NCAA Division 2 college team.

Would that be enough help to win it all?

[Johnny Firpo]

Oh yeah that would only work 80 percent of the time. I am sure having to sprint back on D all game and only kinda playing offense wouldnt be another huge disadvantage.

Again, they can't park players. What happens then?

[afarmenian]

Oh yeah that would only work 80 percent of the time. I am sure having to sprint back on D all game and only kinda playing offense wouldnt be another huge disadvantage.

Again, they can't park players. What happens then?

So basically we have to reduce this to halfcourt, ok playing halfcourt they could win a game but not the entire tournament. Fatigue would be a huge factor.

[mixerball]

How about adding 2 average Rec League guys next to them who can't be taller than 6'3 and were scurbs on a NCAA Division 2 college team.

Would that be enough help to win it all?

yes, that would be enough.

[DarkAzcura]

A well coached team with good shooting would get an open 3 every time down the court.

I think those three could do well on the offensive end because they are used to fighting through double teams, but a team prepared to play against 3 players will rip them apart offensively. The best D1 players should be able to hit wide, wide open 3s consistently.

[ChartFiction]

Not a chance.

5 v 3..all you need is a like 5 minutes to gameplan

[taikibansei]

obviously people who would say yes are the ones without RL basketball exp. extra man is huge. 2 extra men is not a brainer.

But we are talking about upper echelon players, with ridiculous athleticism and wingspans, two elite shooters, and absolutely superstars. Would you agree that four NBA MVPs (or MVP level players like Kawhi) would beat even the best college teams? I think you surely agree with that. If you do, then the cutoff point has to be three players, but that is a legitimate debate imo.

Its not, when you consider you can park a guy at the other end for a layup every single possession and STILL play 4 v 3 then its not a debate at all.

Good luck sending one of your players down to cherry pick. I'd park Kawhi at mid court to stop that (and to bailout the other two in a rare emergency), and then have Durant and Lebron take on the other four. College kids are just that: kids. With very rare exceptions, those that can leap with Durant/Lebron are too skinny to really check them, and those with the strength to body up are too slow and earth-bound to keep up. Seriously, what college team has two guys who can cover Lebron and then two other guys who can cover Durant? Pros have difficulties double-teaming those guys!

We're talking about three probable Hall of Famers here (one with an argument for GOAT). Imagine a Durant/Lebron/Kawhi getting the ball on the perimeter and seeing just two college kids between him and the basket. And if either of the other two try to help...alley-oop dunk for the other NBA all-star every time.

[nikster]

How about adding 2 average Rec League guys next to them who can't be taller than 6'3 and were scurbs on a NCAA Division 2 college team.

Would that be enough help to win it all?

absolutely. Just having those 2 guys prevent transition layups and wide open jumpers would make a huge difference. They absolutely dominate with that lineup. And give 2 average rec league players a full season with a great coach and they will be able to play smart enough in the system

[Dino353]

They would absolutely shatter the NCAA dude, Kawhi Leonard is a game changer on defense and I saw that with my bare eyes against the Warriors Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals, Lebron I am not even going to get started on because he would pick apart defenses and just overpower everyone, and Durant is 3 pointers all over the court.

[nikster]

A well coached team with good shooting would get an open 3 every time down the court.

I think those three could do well on the offensive end because they are used to fighting through double teams, but a team prepared to play against 3 players will rip them apart offensively. The best D1 players should be able to hit wide, wide open 3s consistently.

KD shoots above 40% from 3, and that is at 3 point range against NBA level defense. Shorten the 3 point line and put college kids on him and he will be hitting a clip that they wont even be hitting if wide open. Not to mention stopping a layup by these stars would be nearly impossible, they'd probably shoot higher than 80%

[DarkAzcura]

A well coached team with good shooting would get an open 3 every time down the court.

I think those three could do well on the offensive end because they are used to fighting through double teams, but a team prepared to play against 3 players will rip them apart offensively. The best D1 players should be able to hit wide, wide open 3s consistently.

KD shoots above 40% from 3, and that is at 3 point range against NBA level defense. Shorten the 3 point line and put college kids on him and he will be hitting a clip that they wont even be hitting if wide open. Not to mention stopping a layup by these stars would be nearly impossible, they'd probably shoot higher than 80%

Okay? I said the NBA players would do well offensively. The college team would rip them apart on the offensive end, though.

I'm sorry but if you leave two wide open D1 players on a well coached team with a game plan, they are going to hit almost every shot. There is no way Durant is hitting a higher clip from 3 with two players on him at all times than a wide open by 20 feet D1 player.

We do know a decent amount of D1 players on the best college teams end up in the NBA fairly soon after their college season ends, right? The big thing that holds back college players from performing well their rookie years on the defensive end is pace, physicality, and just general BBIQ development. Playing against a team of 3 takes those road blocks away.

[NBAFan93]

Aren't college games shorter and the 3 point line closer? I think LeBron definitely would have the stamina to play the whole game. I'd go w/ the NBA'ers...

[nikster]

A well coached team with good shooting would get an open 3 every time down the court.

I think those three could do well on the offensive end because they are used to fighting through double teams, but a team prepared to play against 3 players will rip them apart offensively. The best D1 players should be able to hit wide, wide open 3s consistently.

KD shoots above 40% from 3, and that is at 3 point range against NBA level defense. Shorten the 3 point line and put college kids on him and he will be hitting a clip that they wont even be hitting if wide open. Not to mention stopping a layup by these stars would be nearly impossible, they'd probably shoot higher than 80%

Okay? I said the NBA players would do well offensively. The college team would rip them apart on the offensive end, though.

I'm sorry but if you leave two wide open D1 players on a well coached team with a game plan, they are going to hit almost every shot. There is no way Durant is hitting a higher clip from 3 with two players on him at all times than a wide open by 20 feet D1 player.

We do know a decent amount of D1 players on the best college teams end up in the NBA fairly soon after their college season ends, right? The big thing that holds back college players from performing well their rookie years on the defensive end is pace, physicality, and just general BBIQ development. Playing against a team of 3 takes those road blocks away.

Well if you have 2 players on Durant at all time that means you have only 1 defender on Kawhii or Lebron...which is an easy 2 point field goal at 90% clip. Even from elite college teams you have maybe 3 players that will make any sort of impact on the NBA level as a rookie. And most college teams only have 1 or 2 truly elite shooters, which the stars can focus on

[DarkAzcura]

KD shoots above 40% from 3, and that is at 3 point range against NBA level defense. Shorten the 3 point line and put college kids on him and he will be hitting a clip that they wont even be hitting if wide open. Not to mention stopping a layup by these stars would be nearly impossible, they'd probably shoot higher than 80%

Okay? I said the NBA players would do well offensively. The college team would rip them apart on the offensive end, though.

I'm sorry but if you leave two wide open D1 players on a well coached team with a game plan, they are going to hit almost every shot. There is no way Durant is hitting a higher clip from 3 with two players on him at all times than a wide open by 20 feet D1 player.

We do know a decent amount of D1 players on the best college teams end up in the NBA fairly soon after their college season ends, right? The big thing that holds back college players from performing well their rookie years on the defensive end is pace, physicality, and just general BBIQ development. Playing against a team of 3 takes those road blocks away.

Well if you have 2 players on Durant at all time that means you have only 1 defender on Kawhii or Lebron...which is an easy 2 point field goal at 90% clip. Even from elite college teams you have maybe 3 players that will make any sort of impact on the NBA level as a rookie. And most college teams only have 1 or 2 truly elite shooters, which the stars can focus on

Still not better than wide open D1 players taking essentially practice 3s with all the time in the world. Top D1 players don’t miss in practice that often.