Phil Jackson on Kobe: The GOAT measure is championships

[Dupp]

Of course he says that.

He has the most titles because he had the luxury of coaching MJ, Shaq, Kobe etc and ran away with his tail between his legs when he didn’t have Hof/goat level talent to coach.

[Dupp]

Fisher tired with Kobe on the GOAT list.. got it.

Here come the insecure haters......

Don’t be so hard on yourself.

[Long2s]

Lebron gets no respect by any legend.

Because he is the only legitimate player that challenge Jordan and Kareem and everybody deep down knows it--so throwing shade at him is a attempt at creating a buffer zone to keep those twos legacies safe from any debate.

People gas up Kobe knowing full well he is not in that conversation and its not going to really impact anything besides getting lolz

Lebron is a challenge to Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, that kind of tier. He isn't even in contention for being better than Tim Duncan or Shaq, let alone MJ or Kareem.

[Yungsta404]

The GOAT measure is championships only when it supports my arguments.

[LLcoleJ]

All time great with rings is different than a role player with rings. When will this tired, lazy hack argument end?

[LivingLegend]

Lebron gets no respect by any legend.

Because he is the only legitimate player that challenge Jordan and Kareem and everybody deep down knows it--so throwing shade at him is a attempt at creating a buffer zone to keep those twos legacies safe from any debate.

People gas up Kobe knowing full well he is not in that conversation and its not going to really impact anything besides getting lolz

Lebron is a challenge to Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, that kind of tier. He isn't even in contention for being better than Tim Duncan or Shaq, let alone MJ or Kareem.

[Reeko]

Lebron gets no respect by any legend.

Because he is the only legitimate player that challenge Jordan and Kareem and everybody deep down knows it--so throwing shade at him is a attempt at creating a buffer zone to keep those twos legacies safe from any debate.

People gas up Kobe knowing full well he is not in that conversation and its not going to really impact anything besides getting lolz

Lebron is a challenge to Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, that kind of tier. He isn't even in contention for being better than Tim Duncan or Shaq, let alone MJ or Kareem.

So you're saying that LeBron is arguably better than two guys that never won championships? I don't even like LeBron and I know that that's a ridiculous statement.

[LLcoleJ]

Of course he says that.

He has the most titles because he had the luxury of coaching MJ, Shaq, Kobe etc and ran away with his tail between his legs when he didn’t have Hof/goat level talent to coach.

Your trolling Is extra dramatic tonight. Calm down

[inquisitive]

All time great with rings is different than a role player with rings. When will this tired, lazy hack argument end?

Russell > Jordan then?

[1993Playoffs]

Is this a shot at MJ?? because 11 is much better than 6

[LLcoleJ]

Lebron gets no respect by any legend.

Because he is the only legitimate player that challenge Jordan and Kareem and everybody deep down knows it--so throwing shade at him is a attempt at creating a buffer zone to keep those twos legacies safe from any debate.

People gas up Kobe knowing full well he is not in that conversation and its not going to really impact anything besides getting lolz

Lebron is a challenge to Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, that kind of tier. He isn't even in contention for being better than Tim Duncan or Shaq, let alone MJ or Kareem.

Thats insane , I mean makes no sense in any rational thought.

[LLcoleJ]

All time great with rings is different than a role player with rings. When will this tired, lazy hack argument end?

Russell > Jordan then?

Are either of those guys role players?

[NyKnicks1714]

All time great with rings is different than a role player with rings. When will this tired, lazy hack argument end?

Of course it's a terrible argument. So is looking solely at rings and acting as if Kobe wasn't #2 to the most dominant player ever for 3 of them.

[LLcoleJ]

All time great with rings is different than a role player with rings. When will this tired, lazy hack argument end?

Of course it's a terrible argument. So is looking solely at rings and acting as if Kobe wasn't #2 to the most dominant player ever for 3 of them.

And ?

[Gary Cokeman]

Lebron gets no respect by any legend.

Because he is the only legitimate player that challenge Jordan and Kareem and everybody deep down knows it--so throwing shade at him is a attempt at creating a buffer zone to keep those twos legacies safe from any debate.

People gas up Kobe knowing full well he is not in that conversation and its not going to really impact anything besides getting lolz

Lebron is a challenge to Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, that kind of tier. He isn't even in contention for being better than Tim Duncan or Shaq, let alone MJ or Kareem.

I knew there would be some crazy in here somewhere.

[mowcrowbar]

The GOAT measure is championships only when it supports my arguments.

Championships are pretty overrated. Like a Brian Scalabrine has more championships than Charles Barkley.

[NyKnicks1714]

All time great with rings is different than a role player with rings. When will this tired, lazy hack argument end?

Of course it's a terrible argument. So is looking solely at rings and acting as if Kobe wasn't #2 to the most dominant player ever for 3 of them.

And ?

If people stopped making the dumb argument I referenced, you'd stop seeing the dumb Fisher/Horry argument. Context matters heavily when you look at rings. This isn't really directed at you, it looks like we're in general agreement.

[Andy123]

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The great ones know what it's really all about

Bill Russell's the goat then this settled it.

[Zeitgeister]

Fisher tired with Kobe on the GOAT list.. got it.

Here come the insecure haters......

I don't think someone is a hater for exposing flaws in logic.

[Andy123]

Of course it's a terrible argument. So is looking solely at rings and acting as if Kobe wasn't #2 to the most dominant player ever for 3 of them.

And ?

If people stopped making the dumb argument I referenced, you'd stop seeing the dumb Fisher/Horry argument. Context matters heavily when you look at rings. This isn't really directed at you, it looks like we're in general agreement.

We can end the argument now..Bill Russell is the goat.. please don't raise context .. as an excuse...The great ones know what matters .. which is rings so Russell is the greatest period ..I'm being sarcastic between.
I hate it between when people who have rings use rings in an argument.. kinda like Jordan taking players position as a player and them owners position when he is an owner ..It reason Phil uses ring as argument is because he has plenty in short saying he is the greatest coach. Lol how convenient.