Luka Doncic will be the best rookie since Lebron.

[bargnanimvp]

said no one ever

Actually a lot of people have been saying this and I can see it too.

[amcfad27]

Darko 2.0 Doncic doesn't have NBA athleticism

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[OkcSinceSGA]

If I'm Doncic I'm going to Phoenix or I'm forcing my way to another team. I'm sorry Sacramento. I'm sorry Atlanta. If I'm Doncic I'm flat saying I'm staying in Europe for 2 or 3 years if they draft me. I would not put my career in the hands of those organizations. Dallas trade up and get me. Clippers trade up and get me. Phili trade up and get me. Really Phili should be aggressive and trade up and get Doncic. He is in essence what they hope Fultz can become now. Him and Ben would be just awesome together.

Now I'm pretty accurate with my projections. I said last year I thought Ben Simmons would averaged 17 7 and 7. That he would average a triple double at some point in his career.

With Doncic I think 21 7 and 7 is a huge projection. I'm not ready to go to that level. I'm more on the 17 7 7 with Doncic as well. He has to be on a pretty bad team to get to 21 PPG first year.

Just to note there really not many players in league history that are 17 7 7 guys for there career. I think we will have a lot of Ben Simmons vs Doncic debates in the next 10 years. I grade Ben just a little better than Doncic because he has a little more size and athleticism. It wouldn't shock me if Doncic is better because right now he is as good if not a little better and is younger. If Ben gets a jump shot not sure it would be close.

Those were his PER 36 stats this year I was saying, not a prediction . I think he will be way better on offense than Simmons, way worse on defense. Impact wise slightly better potentially, but Simmons was EXTREMELY high impact for a rookie.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Darko 2.0 Doncic doesn't have NBA athleticism

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Darko 2.0? What??

[IgorK]

Hmm.. here are some quotes..

"I haven't seen him, no one sees him, but we hear things. I've heard very good things. Nothing bad at all. ... From what I know about those leagues, he is playing the very best in Europe against grown men who are 25, 30 and 35 years old.

1

He's playing against guys double his age. Not only is he going against pros, but some of those pros are going to be playing in the NBA. It's so hard to compare because they play different positions, but whoever takes him will get a tremendous talent for years to come.

2

..about a different "icic" - Darko Milicic.

[Pachinko_]

Eh, no. But he will probably be very good, maybe even as good as Tatum. If he goes to the right team.

The main concern is expectations, some takes are really really weird.

[OkcSinceSGA]

I dont think some people understand he's going against FAR superior talent than the NCAA. Way more polished, veteran guys. In the NCAA he would of put up Trae Young scoring with a far better all around game most likely.

[OkcSinceSGA]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2777620-dirk-nowitzki-on-luka-doncic-i-think-hes-going-to-be-great

"I mean, he's got all the game. He's got all the mid-range. He's got the pull-ups. He's got the step backs. He's great with the ball. He can run pick-and-rolls—which would suit him great here now since it's a pick-and-roll league now anyway. I think he's going to be great."

-Dirk

[King Ken]

Eh, no. But he will probably be very good, maybe even as good as Tatum. If he goes to the right team.

The main concern is expectations, some takes are really really weird.

So unfair to compare him to Tatum. Tatum plays with Al Horford and a great Boston team. If he was on Brooklyn, we wouldn't be talking about him as much.

[Dupp]

I think Simmons was probably a better rooking than Lebron. Would be surprised if donic is that good. He will be awesome though

[DarthTeufel]

Hmm.. here are some quotes..

"I haven't seen him, no one sees him, but we hear things. I've heard very good things. Nothing bad at all. ... From what I know about those leagues, he is playing the very best in Europe against grown men who are 25, 30 and 35 years old.

1

He's playing against guys double his age. Not only is he going against pros, but some of those pros are going to be playing in the NBA. It's so hard to compare because they play different positions, but whoever takes him will get a tremendous talent for years to come.

2

..about a different "icic" - Darko Milicic.

Doncic led his team to the title and won MVP against the best non-NBA competition in the world. check what Darko was doing at the same age and it's not even close.

[HotTubMike]

Feels like there is a thread like this every year for some rookie... usually the player doesn’t meet these unfair expectations coming into the league

[Riko]

Unrealistic expectations...
He is good, really good but a lot depends on the team which draft him. If he falls to Memphis do you really expect that he wuold be the primary ballhandler and puts such number? Then european player usually don't care about stat padding.

[Pachinko_]

Feels like there is a thread like this every year for some rookie... usually the player doesn’t meet these unfair expectations coming into the league

yes

Having said that, there's never been a Euroleague MVP in the draft before. That's truly unprecedented.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Feels like there is a thread like this every year for some rookie... usually the player doesn’t meet these unfair expectations coming into the league

yes

Having said that, there's never been a Euroleague MVP in the draft before. That's truly unprecedented.

And title winner*

[OkcSinceSGA]

Unrealistic expectations...
He is good, really good but a lot depends on the team which draft him. If he falls to Memphis do you really expect that he wuold be the primary ballhandler and puts such number? Then european player usually don't care about stat padding.

I never gave a stat prediction necessarily.

[fa2011]

[DROB27]

No

[Riko]

Unrealistic expectations...
He is good, really good but a lot depends on the team which draft him. If he falls to Memphis do you really expect that he wuold be the primary ballhandler and puts such number? Then european player usually don't care about stat padding.

I never gave a stat prediction necessarily.

Come on, you americans like too much the stats, if he puts a solid 12/5/5 with great % in a 55+ W memphis team nobody wuold considered him the best rookie since Lebron.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Unrealistic expectations...
He is good, really good but a lot depends on the team which draft him. If he falls to Memphis do you really expect that he wuold be the primary ballhandler and puts such number? Then european player usually don't care about stat padding.

I never gave a stat prediction necessarily.

Come on, you americans like too much the stats, if he puts a solid 12/5/5 with great % in a 55+ W memphis team nobody wuold considered him the best rookie since Lebron.

He won't fall to Memphis. Also Memphis will be lucky to win 40 games, so any rookie is gonna have a bigger load than you thinking. Playing with a playmaker like Gasol would be a huge boost to his offense though in theory.