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Re: If teams could ONLY play guys they drafted... 

Post#21 » by LakersSoul » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:04 am

uberhikari wrote:The Lakers would be destroyed. Shaq, Kobe, and KAJ weren't drafted by them.

The Warriors would wreck EVERYBODY:

Wilt Chamberlain
Nate Thurmond
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Paul Arizin
Draymond Green
Chris Mullin
Rick Barry

The Bull would also do fairly well

Michael Jordan
Derrick Rose
Jimmy Butler
Luol Deng
Joakim Noah
Artis Gilmore
Horace Grant


Not really:

Gasol
Bynum
Eddie Jones
Worthy
AC Green
Magic
Cooper
Goodrich
West
Baylor

Not Yo Ham Lakers!

The Don and The King!
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Post#22 » by yitur » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:08 am

LakersSoul wrote:
uberhikari wrote:The Lakers would be destroyed. Shaq, Kobe, and KAJ weren't drafted by them.

The Warriors would wreck EVERYBODY:

Wilt Chamberlain
Nate Thurmond
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Paul Arizin
Draymond Green
Chris Mullin
Rick Barry

The Bull would also do fairly well

Michael Jordan
Derrick Rose
Jimmy Butler
Luol Deng
Joakim Noah
Artis Gilmore
Horace Grant


Not really:

Gasol
Bynum
Eddie Jones
Worthy
AC Green
Magic
Cooper
Goodrich
West
Baylor


I don't get why we won't use draft day trades too. Kawhi is a Spurs player, that's why Pacers picked him and traded to Spurs. Charlotte also didn't pick Kobe because they loved him but rather they picked him because Lakers wanted him with that pick.
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Post#23 » by CycklopsGT » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:11 am

jimmy keys wrote:
CycklopsGT wrote:
RyderMike wrote:What's the definition of drafted? Put on their hat or ended draft night on their team?

For example, Kawhi was drafted by the Indiana Pacers. Really he was drafted by the Spurs, but because the trade hadn't been finalized he was technically drafted by the Pacers, even though they were a middle man and he was a Spur by the end of the night.

Same for Vince Carter. He was technically drafted by Golden State and traded to Toronto. Does he go on Golden State's all-time draft roster?

Countless other examples as well

Kobe would be on the Hornets by my measure. But obviously if somebody wants to count it differently, nothing is stopping them.
Why? They literally drafted him on behalf of the Lakers. Never played a game for the Hornets. Absolutely ridiculous to count him as a Hornets draft pick.

I think that doing it that way makes for some surprising rosters. Like, as above, Dr. J and Dirk Nowitzki are on the Bucks, Vince Carter is on the Warriors, etc.

Like I said though, I have no control over you or who you want to put on what team, I just think it's more interesting.
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Post#24 » by CycklopsGT » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:13 am

Hawks Roster is Hilarious:

C Arvydas Sabonis
PF Bill Russell
SF Luka Doncic
SG David Thompson
PG Pete Maravich

6th Pau Gasol

Pretty much all guys they sent elsewhere, haha.
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Post#25 » by yitur » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:18 am

CycklopsGT wrote:Orlando Magic:

C Shaq
F Dwight Howard
F Chris Webber
G Tracy McGrady
G Penny Hardaway

No spacing, but damn. 8-O


T-Mac got drafted by Raptors.
You can either have Penny or Webber because they were traded for each other in the 93 NBA draft.
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Post#26 » by CycklopsGT » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:20 am

yitur wrote:
CycklopsGT wrote:Orlando Magic:

C Shaq
F Dwight Howard
F Chris Webber
G Tracy McGrady
G Penny Hardaway

No spacing, but damn. 8-O


T-Mac got drafted by Raptors.
You can either have Penny or Webber because they were traded for each other in the 93 NBA draft.

Yeah, I blame it on being up at 3AM. Let me re-do that post. :)
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Post#27 » by LOUiS-D » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:34 am

It is insane that Presti drafted 3 MVPs in a row. Yeah they all wouldn't be MVPs if they stayed together and some of the shine is off the apple in terms of Russ being a top 15 player. KD and Harden are indisputable top 5 players. Some franchises go DECADES with out a whiff of a top 5 player. You need every ounce of advantage in terms of scouting prowess, player development, opponent front office incompetence and luck for that to happen.

Is there anything that comes close to that for concentration of drafting success in league history?
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Post#28 » by CycklopsGT » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:06 am

LOUiS-D wrote:It is insane that Presti drafted 3 MVPs in a row. Yeah they all wouldn't be MVPs if they stayed together and some of the shine is off the apple in terms of Russ being a top 15 player. KD and Harden are indisputable top 5 players. Some franchises go DECADES with out a whiff of a top 5 player. You need every ounce of advantage in terms of scouting prowess, player development, opponent front office incompetence and luck for that to happen.

Is there anything that comes close to that for concentration of drafting success in league history?

I just checked the list of NBA MVP's and as far as I can tell, no other team has ever even drafted MVP's back-to-back, let alone 3.
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Post#29 » by CycklopsGT » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:38 am

Koreandoo wrote:Bucks:

Pg:Moncrief
Sg:Erving
Sf: Antetokounmpo
Pf: Nowitzki
C: Abdul Jabbar

Bench:
Marbury
English
Dandridge
Johnson
Baker
Bogut

I think we would be contending.

:o That team is actually sick. They would probably lose to the Warriors due to depth, but other than that...
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Post#30 » by Lalouie » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:22 am

CycklopsGT wrote:Who do you think would be the best teams currently, and who would have the best All-Time Team?

Spoiler:
I'm guessing the Warriors and Thunder would be the ones trading chips, but the Sixers would still have a great core. All-Time, at first I thought the Celtics would crush everyone, then I realized Wilt was drafted by the Warriors :o .


ehhh, the sixers would have zero 3pt shooters and basically just fultz simmons embiid

thunder would have BACK durant and harden and ibaka and adams and jackson and sabonis,,,,basically everyone from early okc. okc is one of those teams that have been built solely on drafts picks. in fact that was one of the issues kd had with okc, ie they never brought in star player,,,they preferred drafting for them. they'd lose pg13 though.

thunder would be loaded enough for TWO teams

OH WAIT,,,are you talking about now or all time?
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Post#31 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:18 am

uberhikari wrote:The Lakers would be destroyed. Shaq, Kobe, and KAJ weren't drafted by them.

The Warriors would wreck EVERYBODY:

Wilt Chamberlain
Nate Thurmond
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Paul Arizin
Draymond Green
Chris Mullin
Rick Barry



You could add the Hardaway 'brothers' to back up the splash brothers. (Penny and Tim)
Mitch Richmond and Robert Parish can help out the bench too.
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Post#32 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:30 am

Bill Russell
Larry Bird
Kevin McHale
Paul Pierce
Reggie Lewis
Chauncey Billups
Cedric Maxwell
Dave Cowans
JoJo White
John Havlicek
Tom Sanders
Sam Jones
Tom Heinsohn
Rajon Rondo
KC Jones

I get why people are talking up the Warriors.
I think this is still a pretty damn fine squad though.
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Post#33 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:35 am

And for a current Celts team...

Tatum
Brown
Smart
Rozier
Ojeleye
Robert Williams
Avery Bradley
Abdul Nader
Rondo

Not great. Tatum, Brown and Smart isn't a bad start, but the big man cupboard is pretty bare.
Still, with Zions injury now, he might drop to #2, and our Sac pick will almost certainly be #2, so I'm tempted to just add him.

(Yeah, joking)
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Post#34 » by babyjax13 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:42 am

Utah does pretty good

Rudy Gobert/Mark Eaton/Rich Kelley
Karl Malone/Paul Millsap/Thurl Bailey
Dominique Wilkins/Gordon Hayward/Andrei Kirilenko
Donovan Mitchell/Darrell Griffith/Dell Curry
John Stockton/Deron Williams/Mo Williams

Third-string not quite as good but still has a few all-stars.
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Post#35 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:48 am

Crives wrote:The Suns Nash 7SOL would be up there. Suns drafted the core. Nash/Amare/Marion/Rondo/Jackson/Deng/Gortat


That would be pretty good, though they traded some of those picks before the guys were drafted. But you can also add Alvan Adams, Walter Davis, Larry Nance, Ayton, Booker, Dragic and Finley among others.

I think most teams could have great teams though.

Nash/Dragic
Davis/Booker
Marion/Finley
Amare/Nance
Ayton/Adams
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Post#36 » by Crives » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:00 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Crives wrote:The Suns Nash 7SOL would be up there. Suns drafted the core. Nash/Amare/Marion/Rondo/Jackson/Deng/Gortat


That would be pretty good, though they traded some of those picks before the guys were drafted. But you can also add Alvan Adams, Walter Davis, Larry Nance, Ayton, Booker, Dragic and Finley among others.

I think most teams could have great teams though.

Nash/Dragic
Davis/Booker
Marion/Finley
Amare/Nance
Ayton/Adams



my list was not intended to be all time greats for the Suns. If you went back to 2006 to 2015 and we kept those picks, we could have had all those players on our team at the same time.
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Post#37 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:01 am

Crives wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Crives wrote:The Suns Nash 7SOL would be up there. Suns drafted the core. Nash/Amare/Marion/Rondo/Jackson/Deng/Gortat


That would be pretty good, though they traded some of those picks before the guys were drafted. But you can also add Alvan Adams, Walter Davis, Larry Nance, Ayton, Booker, Dragic and Finley among others.

I think most teams could have great teams though.

Nash/Dragic
Davis/Booker
Marion/Finley
Amare/Nance
Ayton/Adams



my list was not intended to be all time greats for the Suns. If you went back to 2006 to 2015 and we kept those picks, we could have had all those players on our team at the same time.


Sure, though they likely would have taken Iguodala over Deng I think and they also would have had Ibaka.
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Post#38 » by gavran » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:38 am

LewisnotMiller wrote:
uberhikari wrote:The Lakers would be destroyed. Shaq, Kobe, and KAJ weren't drafted by them.

The Warriors would wreck EVERYBODY:

Wilt Chamberlain
Nate Thurmond
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Paul Arizin
Draymond Green
Chris Mullin
Rick Barry



You could add the Hardaway 'brothers' to back up the splash brothers. (Penny and Tim)
Mitch Richmond and Robert Parish can help out the bench too.

Vince Carter too.
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Post#39 » by Not Suave Rico » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:58 am

Clippers/Braves are top heavy with 3 hall of famers in McAdoo, Haywood, and Dantley. Guard play not so great so I cheated and put Odom there.

Bob McAdoo / DeAndre Jordan
Spencer Haywood / Blake Griffin
Adrian Dantley / Terry Cummings
Hersey Hawkins / Byron Scott
Lamar Odom / Randy Smith
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Post#40 » by udfa » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:02 am

If OKC is given Seattle's players too (which they don't deserve) they can field a team that would be incredible in today's game:

Russell Westbrook / Gary Payton
James Harden / Dennis Johnson
Scottie Pippen / Rashard Lewis
Kevin Durant / Serge Ibaka
Shawn Kemp / Jack Sikma

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