Why draft Cam Reddish aside from "potential"?

[Mylie10]

Marvin Williams comes to mind when I think about Cam. I believe his stock decreases from #3.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I consider him a risk, and I don't want him if I'm picking top 5.

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Marvin was a better prospect and it wasn't close but Cam has far more potential at SF. The issue with Marvin, he came 15 years too soon

Marvin Williams was a really big small forward. Reddish is about 6'5"

[King Ken]

Marvin Williams comes to mind when I think about Cam. I believe his stock decreases from #3.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I consider him a risk, and I don't want him if I'm picking top 5.

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Marvin was a better prospect and it wasn't close but Cam has far more potential at SF. The issue with Marvin, he came 15 years too soon

Marvin Williams was a really big small forward. Reddish is about 6'5"

Not sure what you are watching but Cam is clearly 6'8

[HMFFL]

6'5...LOL
Sorry, the laugh I had from that is post worthy.

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[VanWest82]

The one thing I will say about Reddish is he's a heck of a defender, which is important because he plays on the same team as RJ who plays matador defense.

[Lalouie]

Huge Duke fan here, but Cam Reddish has been abysmal this year. Aside from "potential" he hasn't been impressive at all. He's had a few good games, but these are his numbers.

SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2018-19 DUKE 29.5 4.6-12.8 .356 2.6-7.9 .332 2.5-3.3 .765 3.8 2.1 0.5 1.8 2.4 2.8 14.3

Hes an incredibly inefficient chucker by any means. Would you throw away a lotto pick?

if you're not drafting top5, trade down.
draft picks' chances of living up to expectations become exponentially worse
http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

i will say this. the nba has lowered the bar so much that success is a little easier. i called it "the dinwiddie effect". but the ratios and percentages probably still hold up. i think a college player of note only has to not be a bust. the nba will draft on athleticism, physique, and potential. it gives the scouts "an out" because potential can be anything they want it to be, and if they follow the party line they won't be blamed

[Mylie10]

Marvin was a better prospect and it wasn't close but Cam has far more potential at SF. The issue with Marvin, he came 15 years too soon

Marvin Williams was a really big small forward. Reddish is about 6'5"

Not sure what you are watching but Cam is clearly 6'8

My bad. Seen plenty of Duke games and didn't realize he's 6'8". He's lean though.

[pipfan]

If the Bulls move down, I might roll the dice. But, I don't watch NCAA so I have just seen a few highlights. Could be a medium risk, high reward type pick

[King Ken]

Marvin Williams was a really big small forward. Reddish is about 6'5"

Not sure what you are watching but Cam is clearly 6'8

My bad. Seen plenty of Duke games and didn't realize he's 6'8". He's lean though.

I honestly think he plays a major role into his struggles. He has a great frame but his body needs a lot of development.

[azcatz11]

The aside from is the reason

Exactly

[TheNewEra]

Reddish looking like a MKG clone?

[TheSuzerain]

Because he can potentially shoot 3’s off the dribble which is probably the most valuable trait an offensive player can have these days.

[King Ken]

Reddish looking like a MKG clone?

Nope, Cam got talent and skill potential. MKG was NBA ready defensively and was a transition offense menace. Not to mention great at slashing in college but in the NBA, no one respected his shooting, he couldn't get to the paint, he became exclusively a defensive specialist. He probably would have been much better in a situation where he didn't need to be so diverse overall but this is what generally happens when you are a top 10 pick. You don't go to ideal situations.

Cam will need an ideal situation but he is highly projectable and that's a major plus in his favor.

[Mylie10]

Not sure what you are watching but Cam is clearly 6'8

My bad. Seen plenty of Duke games and didn't realize he's 6'8". He's lean though.

I honestly think he plays a major role into his struggles. He has a great frame but his body needs a lot of development.

I just down see the Marvin Williams comparison based on Williams and his being like a hybrid 3/4.

I see Reddish like a 2/3. And if he's legit 6'8" even better.

I think with Zion out Reddish had tried to do to much offensively. If he focused and being a shut down defender, the offense will come to him. I like that he has skills to get shots off, but much like Iguodala, he's better at being a complimentary scorer, and a lock down defender.

[King Ken]

My bad. Seen plenty of Duke games and didn't realize he's 6'8". He's lean though.

I honestly think he plays a major role into his struggles. He has a great frame but his body needs a lot of development.

I just down see the Marvin Williams comparison based on Williams and his being like a hybrid 3/4.

I see Reddish like a 2/3. And if he's legit 6'8" even better.

I think with Zion out Reddish had tried to do to much offensively. If he focused and being a shut down defender, the offense will come to him. I like that he has skills to get shots off, but much like Iguodala, he's better at being a complimentary scorer, and a lock down defender.

Marvin was really a small ball 4 with the length to play it. He was great at defending switches, paint protection, and his era didn't really do it but he should have been a 3/D PF similar to JJJ.

The issue was, he was used as the next Scottie Pippen. Except he wasn't aggressive at all, didn't defend the perimeter well, wasn't skilled enough on the perimeter and just struggled. Since he played in a system at the time that was extremely isolation heavy in general, that's how Joe got coined the nickname of Iso Joe. He really just didn't fit. In today's NBA, everyone would know what to do with him. This was still the old NBA. Space and shooting wasn't as valued or as important. It was seen as a something specialist do who come off the bench. Not a star or everyone can do. The old NBA believed in roles.

I see him as a SF. Doesn't create well enough off the dribble. But he has all of the tools and talent. Quick first step, very good footwork, nice feel within the flow of the offense, moves exceptionally well, and is a bucket getter. He can handle a role with volume three point shooting which is highly valued in the modern NBA.

I don't see Iggy. Iggy was an all around baller. Could do it all. Could even play point at times. Great finisher, great at attacking the basket. Great body from the jump. These are things Cam clearly doesn't have and likely will never have.

I don't see him as a complimentary piece. I see him as a 3/D raw prospect with the potential to be a potential two way star. You aren't drafting him with the feel that he will be All Rookie 1st team. You are taking him because you feel he can be an All Star in his 3rd or 4th season and he is making a massive impact in the playoffs for you as an impact player.

[fuzzy1]

He's going to better than RJ Barrett.

I agree with you honestly. "Better" might not be the term exactly, but more valuable. Don't think Barrett translates into a winning player

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[lonzo_pelota]

FGM-FGAFG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
4.4 8.6 .51 0.0 0.1 0.50 2.3 3.7 .60 5.1 2.2 0.8 1.4 2.2 2.1 11.2
Cam is a Great Prospect especially for a freshman on D1 powerhouse school & being coach by a legendary coach in Coach K
above is perennial hall of famer Grant Hill's first year at Duke college stats, imagine if he left after his first year and jumped straight to the league instead of staying all four years, this is the sort of potential you have to judge them on nowadays

[gh123]

Why draft anyone? Zion has 0 actual skills, Morant can't shoot, Barret is a ball hog chucker with 0 defense.

You might be three for three for wrong hot takes my friend.

You and 3 more people totally missed my point...

[King Ken]

Why draft anyone? Zion has 0 actual skills, Morant can't shoot, Barret is a ball hog chucker with 0 defense.

You might be three for three for wrong hot takes my friend.

You and 3 more people totally missed my point...

I completely missed it, I would agree.

[xfactor99]

Well this draft really sucks. Reddish ostensibly still has good size, defense, and shooting stroke as a wing. Why not shoot for the moon, not like the other alternatives 4-10 are much better.

[Duke4life831]

Find me one star player that had as bad of shooting stats as this as a freshman

35/33/76 and 20 more turnovers than assists (below 50 TS%). These numbers are even worse when looking at conference play, so you don't have all the cupcakes that college teams play against factored in.

I've been on and off the Cam hype train roller coaster. But when I took a step back and took off the Duke blue tinted shades, i don't see a NBA prospect at the moment, let alone a top 5, 10, lotto or 1st round pick.

He has size and defense. But the defense isn't elite enough to take him solely on that. He is a jump shooter that has always been inconsistent with his jumper and so far is barely above 30% from 3 in conference play and in the low 70s from the line. I don't recall a 1st round prospect as poor at attacking the basket as Cam. Every time he attacks the basket is a great bet that 1 of 3 things will happen. He just fumbles the ball, he stumbles and falls over, he runs into a guy for a charge.

And it's not like he is this raw athlete either. His explosion around the basket is non-existent.