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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#21 » by Heat4lyf » Thu May 23, 2019 9:29 pm

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Heat4lyf wrote:I keep hearing Steph under performed Iggy was better and Steph was horrible Delly outplayed him by these genius sport analysts I mean does this drive anyone else crazy how he didn't win fmvp or recieve a vote is beyond me

26/5/6 in the finals is pretty good to me.

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
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997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3

Like this misinformation is impacting his legacy and it's a damn shame.

And on top of this, Curry legit injured his MCL in 2016 like that was clearly impacting his game and one hot shooting night and him saying I'm back doesn't change that. But people won't acknowledge this



Is it affecting his legacy? Probably but only to people that don't know or follow basketball. Take 2017 for instance. Curry was far and way the best player in the playoffs from beginning to end.

As far as the 2017 fmvp, I agree Durant should of won it. But that was only because the Cavs were paying so much attention to Curry that Durant got a lot of easy looks. But again anybody that watched all the playoffs from beginning to end knew Curry was the best player on GSW and the real reason they won the championship.

It's true he didn't play well in the 2016 finals whatever the reason, injury or otherwise. He also didn't play well against OKC in 2016 WCF. But those were the only times I can ever remember Curry not playing well in the playoffs for an extended period of time. You see guys like Harden, Lillard, Westbrook, etc play poorly in the playoffs every single year. Lebron has had many poor playoffs performances including the 2007 and 2011 NBA finals. So if two bad series in a single year when Curry is just getting back from a knee injury affected he legacy I can't imagine how much it should affect the legacy of guys like Harden and Westbrook who play poorly in the playoffs every single year.

I remember correctly Curry has the 5th highest PPG average of all time in the playoffs and I'm assuming his efficiency is up there too. Obviously Curry has played very well in the playoffs in his career despite whatever the narrative is. You don't get to 5 straight NBA finals with three championship(mostly likely will be four after this year) when you are 1st or 2nd option on your team unless you played very well.


Personally curry should be recognised as a 2x mvp and 2x fmvp for 2015, 2017

Now 2017 is debatable so it's not as bad he didn't win it but you realise with those awards he'd already be in the convo for alot of people as top 10 all time and viewed by more as the best in the league like nothing of his game or greatness changed but narrative and perception would and the media has done curry a major disservice by spreading misinformation that he doesn't show up
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#22 » by cpower » Thu May 23, 2019 9:36 pm

2015 finals was crazy...i mean if Klay didnt avg 17 ppg he would probably get it because he was TWO WAY player...media narrative was ugly and made FMVP a joke award after that.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#23 » by RCM88x » Thu May 23, 2019 9:47 pm

cpower wrote:2015 finals was crazy...i mean if Klay didnt avg 17 ppg he would probably get it because he was TWO WAY player...media narrative was ugly and made FMVP a joke award after that.


I think there's a difference between being a "two way player" and playing goat level individual defense.
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Post#24 » by Vladimir777 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:48 pm

LeBron should’ve won Finals MVP that year. Really ridiculous someone could win it on a losing team (Jerry West, I believe), and yet LeBron didn’t get it that year. Crock of ****.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#25 » by cpower » Thu May 23, 2019 9:49 pm

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cpower wrote:2015 finals was crazy...i mean if Klay didnt avg 17 ppg he would probably get it because he was TWO WAY player...media narrative was ugly and made FMVP a joke award after that.


I think there's a difference between being a "two way player" and playing goat level individual defense.

well, wearing two way player title gives a lot more than you deserve..i remeber chuck said Klay was a top 5 player in the league because he was 2 way 8-) it's possible people view Curry as the weaker player of the two for a long time....
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Post#26 » by knuckles862 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:50 pm

I'd like to add that his 2nd option (klay) was horrible on offense which makes it more if a reason he should of gotten it
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Post#27 » by Vladimir777 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:50 pm

floppymoose wrote:Curry was the real FMVP of both 2015 and 2018.


LeBron was the best player on the court in both those Finals, and played like such.
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Post#28 » by Vladimir777 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:51 pm

warriorschamps wrote:It was all narrative based and BS. For instance people were talking about how great Lebron played and many folks were pushing for Lebron to get it even in a losing situation. Here is the thing not only was Lebron not great in those finals he was pretty bad. His volume stats were great but that was only because he take a ton of shots. His efficiency in that series was terrible. If I remember correctly he shot around 40% from the floor.

But yeah Curry obviously should of won the fmvp in 2015 no question about it.


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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#29 » by Jay 20 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:52 pm

But guys Iggy "limited" LeBron to 35.8 ppg, 13.3 rpg, and 8.8 apg
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Post#30 » by thebigbird » Thu May 23, 2019 10:14 pm

Steph was playing with half a leg and one good eye that series. What he did was heroic.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#31 » by Triples333 » Thu May 23, 2019 10:23 pm

dynamic duo wrote:lebron was historically robbed that year (4 votes to iggy's 7). he'd probably decline the award anyway when it comes in a losing effort but he was the clear-cut best player in the finals that year and single-handedly won 2 games when the cavs were missing their 2nd and 3rd best player. curry has a good chance to get his first finals mvp now that lebron is out and durant is hobbled. watch out for draymond though.

Historically robbed? Lol he was good, but not amazing. He shot 39% from the field and was not a force on D. I get that he had to do everything, but it was a 6 game loss to a team whose 2nd best player was Igoudala, and Bron shot like ****...so, it didnt work. That's not something to bend history for.

Curry was of course robbed (and the entire reason why Iguodala never saw a defender within 10 feet of him all series), but I feel like most people know this.
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Post#32 » by Admiral-Kizaru » Thu May 23, 2019 10:36 pm

picc wrote:He played worse than his numbers and deservedly lost the finals MVP to Andre Iguodala.

Carry on.

Kobe should have lost his FMVP's to Pau carry on
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Post#33 » by SF_Warriors » Thu May 23, 2019 10:36 pm

Vladimir777 wrote:LeBron should’ve won Finals MVP that year. Really ridiculous someone could win it on a losing team (Jerry West, I believe), and yet LeBron didn’t get it that year. Crock of ****.


Well smoking on planes 50 years ago was deemed appropriate as well. Doesn't mean it makes sense to happen nowadays. Maybe when West got it, people realized that a member of the losing team winning fmvp seems kind of asinine.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#34 » by Triples333 » Thu May 23, 2019 10:38 pm

Jay 20 wrote:But guys Iggy "limited" LeBron to 35.8 ppg, 13.3 rpg, and 8.8 apg

I mean there is no denying that he limited Lebron. That 35 came on 35 attempts a night on a 47.7% TS. And the worst of it was with Iggy on him. It's just that you can't give a FMVP to a guy who was massively more impactful overall in Curry and was the actual league MVP. It was another case of Curry simply being disrespected and under valued by the media.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#35 » by WarriorGM » Thu May 23, 2019 10:42 pm

Vladimir777 wrote:LeBron should’ve won Finals MVP that year. Really ridiculous someone could win it on a losing team (Jerry West, I believe), and yet LeBron didn’t get it that year. Crock of ****.


From what I've heard the FMVP was a new award that year and the voters decided on the winner before the end of game 7 that year West won it. In any event losing in 6 games is hardly an exceptional circumstance and there is no reason to reward the way LeBron functions on a team taking on all the responsibilities more than a team using a more egalitarian team effort. That there are people who think that it should shows that the award is biased towards certain play styles and team construction and further undermines its credibility.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#36 » by Heat4lyf » Thu May 23, 2019 11:01 pm

Triples333 wrote:
Jay 20 wrote:But guys Iggy "limited" LeBron to 35.8 ppg, 13.3 rpg, and 8.8 apg

I mean there is no denying that he limited Lebron. That 35 came on 35 attempts a night on a 47.7% TS. And the worst of it was with Iggy on him. It's just that you can't give a FMVP to a guy who was massively more impactful overall in Curry and was the actual league MVP. It was another case of Curry simply being disrespected and under valued by the media.


Which again like I don't understand the Media's perspective did LeBron destroy the warriors despite the bad % if so why did they credit Iggy so much because he hit open shots and was guarded by mozgov?

And if Iggy was the sole reason or main reason LeBron shot poorly then why is LeBron given credit for carrying the Cavs if he got shut down as they make it seem to be.

so basically lebron was a ballhog that was inefficient because he was shutdown by iggy
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LeBron dominated set the pace controlled the game but was undermanned and therefore shot poor %

It's 1 or the other but they try and put two narratives that don't correlate

Iggy was an xfactor but curry was the engine of the team
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Post#37 » by picc » Thu May 23, 2019 11:01 pm

Admiral-Kizaru wrote:
picc wrote:He played worse than his numbers and deservedly lost the finals MVP to Andre Iguodala.

Carry on.

Kobe should have lost his FMVP's to Pau carry on


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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#38 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu May 23, 2019 11:06 pm

I dunno how anyone that watched that series could pretend Curry played well, admirably, or worth putting up any kind of arguing for. That was ugly, and awful watching him struggle against a complete scrub.

The only thing he did well was get Matthew Dellavadova a massive, undeserved contract.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#39 » by Triples333 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:39 pm

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Jay 20 wrote:But guys Iggy "limited" LeBron to 35.8 ppg, 13.3 rpg, and 8.8 apg

I mean there is no denying that he limited Lebron. That 35 came on 35 attempts a night on a 47.7% TS. And the worst of it was with Iggy on him. It's just that you can't give a FMVP to a guy who was massively more impactful overall in Curry and was the actual league MVP. It was another case of Curry simply being disrespected and under valued by the media.


Which again like I don't understand the Media's perspective did LeBron destroy the warriors despite the bad % if so why did they credit Iggy so much because he hit open shots and was guarded by mozgov?

And if Iggy was the sole reason or main reason LeBron shot poorly then why is LeBron given credit for carrying the Cavs if he got shut down as they make it seem to be.

so basically lebron was a ballhog that was inefficient because he was shutdown by iggy
Or
LeBron dominated set the pace controlled the game but was undermanned and therefore shot poor %

It's 1 or the other but they try and put two narratives that don't correlate

Iggy was an xfactor but curry was the engine of the team

I agree. I laughed immediately at the cognitive dissonance of him and Lebron sharing votes. Made it all the more disrespectful to the Warriors clear best player/performer. That's all right though, Curry will get another crack this year. And not winning it last year was on him for having a poor game 3 (granted, the past 2 Finals MVP's were pretty hollow as they were not tough series and he still played great).
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#40 » by LakersLegacy » Thu May 23, 2019 11:51 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:Curry not winning FMVP that year is one of the most egregious and legacy altering decisions in NBA history as far as awards are concerned.


It makes me happy when great defense gets recognized.

The Warriors should have been the first team w 4 or 5 different Finals MVPs. KD wanted it more than Curry last year.

I’m rooting for one of Curry/Klay/green to get a Finals MVP matching the Showtime Lakers with Magic/Kareem/Worthy all winning FinalsMVPs and the Spurs w Duncan/Parker/Kawhi all winning MVPs.

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