Kawhis supporrting cast and toughest competition

mowcrowbar · Post #21 » by **mowcrowbar** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:51 am

ChargerMan wrote:lmao what is this?

Montrezl = SIakam
Lou Will > Lowry
Zubac <<< Marc Gasol
PG >>>> Danny Green
Beverley > FVV
JaMychal Green > Ibaka

where do you see any advantage aside from Marc Gasol ?

Way to balance out one extreme with another. In an another world there would be perfect harmony.

Tomazan · Post #22 » by **Tomazan** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:16 am

ChargerMan wrote:lmao what is this?

Montrezl = SIakam
Lou Will > Lowry
Zubac <<< Marc Gasol
PG >>>> Danny Green
Beverley > FVV
JaMychal Green > Ibaka

where do you see any advantage aside from Marc Gasol ?

McGee > Gobert

gh123 · Post #23 » by **gh123** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:25 am

Montrezl is a monster, should have won 6poy, at least as good as Siakim.

Not Suave Rico · Post #24 » by **Not Suave Rico** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:29 am

Clippers pairing Kawhi with a guy that finished 3rd in MVP vote and was first team all-nba. On top of that they had an all-time record breaking bench.

Not Suave Rico · Post #25 » by **Not Suave Rico** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:34 am

lamscott wrote:How do clippers cover up Lou Williams and Patrick Beverly during crunch time against big guards? They get absolutely crushed when the guards are bigger.

Beverly has become overrated at this point. At least Lou is amazing in offense.

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Post #26 » by **QRich3** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:29 pm

triple_threat wrote:I find it laughable that these clips fans are coming out of the closet crowning kawhi.

I don't see you laughing though, looking at your recent post history I just see a lot of salt thrown Kawhi's way.

You're a fan of the current NBA champions, you should be happy, even ecstatic. I know I will, if he manages to bring us one at some point. Whatever he decides to do after.

Heej · Post #27 » by **Heej** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:36 pm

Not Suave Rico wrote:
lamscott wrote:How do clippers cover up Lou Williams and Patrick Beverly during crunch time against big guards? They get absolutely crushed when the guards are bigger.

Beverly has become overrated at this point. At least Lou is amazing in offense.

Watch on YouTube

LeBron still killed Patrick Beverly and every other Clipper that game lol

ratul · Post #28 » by **ratul** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:40 pm

I am wary of Beverly in a non contract year. He is great though

nikster · Post #29 » by **nikster** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:06 pm

gh123 wrote:Montrezl is a monster, should have won 6poy, at least as good as Siakim.

Yeah probably as good as Siakam but think Siakams a better fit next to 2 main ball handlers. Much better shot, better handles/passer. But Montrezl is a beats inside

RoyceDa59 · Post #30 » by **RoyceDa59** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:10 pm

Kawhi and the Raps never had to go through James or Durant in a playoff series. Will be interesting to see how Kawhi does against one of the other top 3 players in the league in a 7 game series.

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Forte IV · Post #31 » by **Forte IV** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:13 pm

With all do respect to Spicy P don't be surprised if Trez ends up having a huge season this year. He won't get the numbers but overall he should be great this year. Especially if his handles and new shot are to be believed.

nikster · Post #32 » by **nikster** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:14 pm

I think the teams are similarly talented but Raptors are a much better fit.

Lowrys the best playmaker of the bunch. The big man rotation of Siakam/Ibaka/Gasol is in Toronto’s favour. Raptors have more shooting in the starting lineup. And they’re better defensively top to bottom

gh123 · Post #33 » by **gh123** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:22 pm

nikster wrote:
gh123 wrote:Montrezl is a monster, should have won 6poy, at least as good as Siakim.

Yeah probably as good as Siakam but think Siakams a better fit next to 2 main ball handlers. Much better shot, better handles/passer. But Montrezl is a beats inside

Maybe I overrate him, but every time I saw him play last season he was very good, including vs. my Mavs. Siakim is good too, haven't seen much of him, but his PO stats looked impressive. I'd say Siakim>Harrell, coz Siakim will likely improve next season and I think Harrell has reached his ceiling.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #34 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:42 pm

Harrell is underrated, but you can't compare him favourably to the 2nd option on a champion.

Also, Lou Will is overrated at this point. He's not a Manu 6th man that will make the correct read every time. He's a Jamal Crawford 6th man who just likes that he doesn't have the share the ball with other stars. He's not even close to the overall talent, IQ and hustle of current Lowry, despite being a deadly scoring option.

Paul George is much better than Siakam as a second option. He's basically Siakam and Danny Green combined.

Post #35 » by **Duffman100** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:49 pm

ChargerMan wrote:lmao what is this?

Montrezl = SIakam
Lou Will > Lowry
Zubac <<< Marc Gasol
PG >>>> Danny Green
Beverley > FVV
JaMychal Green > Ibaka

where do you see any advantage aside from Marc Gasol ?

This is an embarassing post.

Siakam >>> Harrell
Lowry >>> Lou
Marc >>> Zubac
Green <<<<< George
FVV < Beverely
Ibaka >>> Green

Cmon now.

Edrees · Post #36 » by **Edrees** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:50 pm

The clippers bench looked good last year without pressure. Now that they play next to some actual stars try are gonna hit a little bit of reality. It happened to Boston last year.

Everyone thought "wow you add Kyrie and Hayward to how great Boston played last year, it's going to be special," it doesn't necessarily work that way. Lwill and these guys won't have the ball in their hand as much and they won't always be getting the minutes they are used to and it remains to be seen if they can be effective in a more complementary role on a real contender.

They will still be good players but I don't think you'll see them necessarily play as well as last year. What made the raptors supporting cast so special was their ability to not only play well without kawhi but their ability to play just as well even with the ball always going to him. As I said they will still be good but I suspect they will be less effective in comparison to last year as a result.

Post #37 » by **Duffman100** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:50 pm

gh123 wrote:Montrezl is a monster, should have won 6poy, at least as good as Siakim.

Oh c'mon. Siakam was the 2nd option on a championship team. Harrell is not nearly that good.

Hoopz Afrik · Post #38 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:59 pm

gh123 wrote:Montrezl is a monster, should have won 6poy, at least as good as Siakim.

Naw. I love Trez as much as the next guy but lets not get carried away. Siakam just averaged 20-8-4 in the NBA finals against one of the best defenders in NBA history as his primary assignment. Give that man his credit. He was great all year and teams actually had to game plan for him. Check his games when Kawhi was out of the line up too. He was not fluke.

DONZ88 · Post #39 » by **DONZ88** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:11 pm

Lol @ the comparison op.

Dont forget clippers will be playing 7 away games in the playoffs vs the lakers.

Courtside · Post #40 » by **Courtside** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:12 pm

Not only were the Raptors players outside of the PG/Green comparison better than the Clippers equivalent, they also had deep playoff experience. Pascal Siakam, Norman Powell and Fred Van Vleet had more playoff experience going into last year than the entirety of the Clippers roster that remains with Kawhi & George. There was like 300 games of playoff experience between Gasol, Green, Ibaka, and Lowry.

If you want to win deep into the playoffs, experience matters. Just ask the SIxers and Bucks.