So why is Jayson Tatum held to such a high standard on this forum?

Kalela · Post #21 » by **Kalela** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:58 am

All the threads I have seen on this site with Tatum's name in the title discussed how overrated and low ceiling he was. So I am not sure who you have seen that overrates or holds him to a super high standard.

LakersSoul · Post #22 » by **LakersSoul** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:58 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:Im trying to figure out why Tatum is touted as this next superstar in the making by some all based on a really good playoff performance 2 seasons ago. What has he accomplished since then to be still be given such high standards?

That was an magnificent playoff run by Tatum as a rookie, that’s why.

He fell off last year and wasn’t much during the playoffs. He has to get back on that pace or his stock will continue to fall.

SuperSunsFan · Post #23 » by **SuperSunsFan** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:06 am

wrong thread, wrong board, sorry.

everdiso · Post #24 » by **everdiso** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:09 am

ajones9219 wrote:
everdiso wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
It is for a 3. And he is an excellent ball handler, shooter and very good defender. His main weakness is sometimes decision making but he clearly has the tools to be an all nba type guy

It's not elite for a 3. And his handles look flat out bad sometimes.

not sure what you consider elite size for a three then. But nothing about any of your previous posts suggest an unbiased take anyway when it relates to the Celtics so it's not worth arguing

Pretty sure my posts have proven to be the most unbiased.

But his size is pretty average for a 3. In the range of guys like middleton or george or harris, etc etc.

Plenty of 3s have wingspan over 7 feet - kawhi, lebron, gallinari, OG, etc etc

JN61 · Post #25 » by **JN61** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:12 am

Power of media.

jason bourne · Post #26 » by **jason bourne** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:18 am

I think before it was to counter the Markelle Fultz hype as the next James Harden. Next, it was to prop up the Celtics after they got Kyrie and Gordon Hayward. After that, Pops was willing to trade Kawhi for him. Now, he could be the guy to berate GM Danny Ainge over since he wouldn't give him up for AD when he said he would. The upside is he's still 21, but his analytics has been going down.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #27 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:21 am

The playoff run, and the Celtics making him off limits in trades for superstars.

Lilseb93 · Post #28 » by **Lilseb93** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:23 am

I hate the Celtics, but if anything this forum constantly bashes the Celtics and its players lol.

Marvel · Post #29 » by **Marvel** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:24 am

bisme37 wrote:He just had 25/9/4/3... last night! He was the C's leading scorer at 23ppg over the first two games. He had an off game tonight but still had 15 and 9 and the Celtics won by 23. Threads like this flat out suck, man.

Doesn't tell the full story though. Look again, this time look at his efficiency. It's Tim Hardaway jr territory lol. He's is a poor finisher at the rim, pretty much stinks from mid range despite thinking he's MJ from there. I do think his efficiency will improve as the season goes on but he still has a ways to go to reach star level status and he does contribute in other areas of the game which is nice.

MagicBagley18 · Post #30 » by **MagicBagley18** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:25 am

Man the real estate the Celtics, Danny ainge and Tatum own in some posters heads here....why? everyday a new post and we aren’t even contenders.

everdiso · Post #31 » by **everdiso** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:27 am

Lilseb93 wrote:I hate the Celtics, but if anything this forum constantly bashes the Celtics and its players lol.

That's true of maybe the last 6-8 months, tops.

TOStateofMind · Post #32 » by **TOStateofMind** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:50 am

His age + his really good rookie season/playoff run. I think we'll find out a lot this year, so lets see how he does.

reload141 · Post #33 » by **reload141** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:18 am

everdiso wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:I hate the Celtics, but if anything this forum constantly bashes the Celtics and its players lol.

That's true of maybe the last 6-8 months, tops.

No, it's been two seasons straight now.

everdiso · Post #34 » by **everdiso** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:30 am

reload141 wrote:
everdiso wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:I hate the Celtics, but if anything this forum constantly bashes the Celtics and its players lol.

That's true of maybe the last 6-8 months, tops.

No, it's been two seasons straight now.

The celtics love going into last season was unbelievable. Even realGM handed them the East and called them an imminent dynasty.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #35 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:52 am

itrsteve wrote:Good, a new day and a new “trash the Celtics” thread.

Miserable souls.

Celtics stans get SOOOOOO upset over perceived slights that they face on realgm. i've never seen another fanbase act like this. It's like a persecution complex.

Anyways I haven't really seen much talk about him being some sort of 1337 talent for some while now. People have received some levels of scheudenfreudenal (probably brutal spelling) joy over the devaluing of the celtics assets and than includes young players like tatum and jaylen brown I will say that, (and include myself in that group).

SichtingLives · Post #36 » by **SichtingLives** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:57 am

Lilseb93 wrote:I hate the Celtics, but if anything this forum constantly bashes the Celtics and its players lol.

Not only that but has a pathological need to constantly think, talk and create random threads about the Celtics. *hearts and minds, paying that mental rent*

NCHeels2008 · Post #37 » by **NCHeels2008** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:02 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:Man the real estate the Celtics, Danny ainge and Tatum own in some posters heads here....why? everyday a new post and we aren’t even contenders.

Well Boston gets a disproportionate amount of attention from the media because a disproportionate amount of the main writers have ties to the Boston area. Out of maybe 10? voices that drive the NBA discussion 3 are from Boston (KOC, Zach Lowe and Bill Simmons). There has been a Boston bias for the last 10-15 years, the KG years for some reason are held in higher reverence than the Lakers team that won more titles in the same time period and the Pistons of the mid 00s who have a nearly identical track record to the KG Celts. You can't be that surprised people are going to feast on the corpse when your team is down.

reload141 · Post #38 » by **reload141** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:16 am

everdiso wrote:
reload141 wrote:
everdiso wrote:
That's true of maybe the last 6-8 months, tops.

No, it's been two seasons straight now.

The celtics love going into last season was unbelievable. Even realGM handed them the East and called them an imminent dynasty.

A lot of media hype though, a stupid comment from Brown too but mostly media hype.

I agree it was ridiculous but it wasn’t our fan base and whole organisation talking it up.... we had an out of the box performance to get to the ECF against Cleveland and I think everyone got a little ahead of themselves.

reflex35 · Post #39 » by **reflex35** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:35 am

Talented, but overrated.
I think people are expecting of him too much...

He is not a second coming of Kobe. Forget that.

And it's not fair to him. Media and fans I think got into his head and he himself now thinks about being Kobe.
If he can solve that part and understand it I think he can be an allstar, but there are small chances of him being a superstar.

everdiso · Post #40 » by **everdiso** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:31 pm

reload141 wrote:
everdiso wrote:
reload141 wrote:
No, it's been two seasons straight now.

The celtics love going into last season was unbelievable. Even realGM handed them the East and called them an imminent dynasty.

A lot of media hype though, a stupid comment from Brown too but mostly media hype.

I agree it was ridiculous but it wasn’t our fan base and whole organisation talking it up.... we had an out of the box performance to get to the ECF against Cleveland and I think everyone got a little ahead of themselves.

Eh, your fanbase mocked and called anyone trolls who didn't agree that the celtics were heads and shoulders above every other eastern team.