Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era

Hello Brooklyn · Post #21 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:41 am

Totally worth trading Luka Doncic for.

Osirus89 · Post #22 » by **Osirus89** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:46 am

I'm legitimately mad that Cam Reddish got picked in the lottery, but I am doubly mad that Atlanta took both Reddish AND Hunter with lottery picks. Hunter seems ok for a rookie, but Reddish is horrific. Atlanta made one of the classic blunders. They drafted a guy based on potential that was rubbish in college. They should have either kept Hayes or took Hachimura or Herro on a reach.

Dr Aki · Post #23 » by **Dr Aki** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:46 am

like even worst than lonzo?

nbhadja · Post #24 » by **nbhadja** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:50 am

RaptorsLife wrote:He’s awful.

He was garbage at duke playing Zion and rj. Bricked all the open shots

I was laughing a ton when hawks fans was celebrating him dropping to them lol.

Dude is like Ben Mchlomore

Awful player

Yes. He was not that good in HS, trash in college, yet the low IQ morons still hyped him to a topic pick.

DirtyDez · Post #25 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:51 am

Dr Aki wrote:like even worst than lonzo?

Reddish is a poor man’s Josh Jackson which is a phrase I never expected to say.

Osirus89 · Post #26 » by **Osirus89** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:53 am

DirtyDez wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:like even worst than lonzo?

Reddish is a poor man’s Josh Jackson which is a phrase I never expected to say.

Damn thats cold.... but true.

Infinite Llamas · Post #27 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:59 am

Grant Williams shooting 0-21 3's with a .336 TS% (...and dropping) says "hold my beer"

Perseus1966 · Post #28 » by **Perseus1966** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:14 am

He was good against (guess who) bucks 6/10 and 3/3 3pts

Sofia · Post #29 » by **Sofia** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:33 am

RaptorsLife wrote:Mchlomore

UcanUwill · Post #30 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:56 am

mattao313 wrote:He was terrible in college too. IDK how he got drafted in the top 10.

Its too early, but I always complained sbout teams wasting top picks on euro bench warmers like Bender and Hezonja, but instead of learning their lesson these gms are taking few steps further and drafting college scrubs with high picks. I couldnt believe he was drafted so high.

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BudenFerry · Post #31 » by **BudenFerry** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:01 am

Folks were calling Trae a bust this time last year so let's see how it unfolds.

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Post #32 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:15 am

Getting to play in an ideal system in college where he played with two 1st team all Americans and one of those guys commanded more attention offensively down low than any guy we have seen in a couple decades in college. Cam got to just sit outside and shoot wide open jumpers all year long.

Cam ended up shooting 35/33/77 for a smooth 49 TS%. He also may have been the worst attacker of the rim I have ever seen by a college player. He also ended up with more turnovers than assists (96 to 70), this is coming from a guy that played PG in high school at times haha.

I got the appeal of Cam, 6'8 and long with a nice smooth stroke and can play some D. He would also flash some crazy potential here and there, so I got the appeal and don't get me wrong there were plenty of times I was buying it. But it got to the point where he would have 1 good half of basketball then 5 straight of some of the worst basketball Ive seen. Dude can be rough to watch.

I got the "potential" with him, but I also thought I could easily see him being out of the league within a 2-3 years.

tundraknight · Post #33 » by **tundraknight** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:20 am

Imon wrote:Isn't Cam the starter because Huerter is still out?

Yeah. I was going to make a thread here on the GM titled “WTH Is Wrong With The Hawks!??”

But Cam replacing the vastly superior but injured Huerter along with John Collins being suspended 25 games pretty much sums up the answer as to why their record is so poor atm.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #34 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:20 am

Yeah I noticed the potential for him having one of the most inefficient seasons ever. His last 50 or so FG he's scored about 55 points though (or something like that), so maybe he's potentially turning things around. Another thing he does somewhat well is draw fouls and when he does hit his free throws. He's been awful in actual live game action in terms of scoring though.

baldur · Post #35 » by **baldur** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:21 am

i have recently made a habit of checking his percentage in boxscores because of this. it is fun. it makes you chuckle when you see something like 1/7 or 2/11. haha.

MrBigShot · Post #36 » by **MrBigShot** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:30 am

Crazy to me that someone with those physical tools who went to such a great college basketball program and has access to world class coaches, trainers, equipment and modern sports science can be so bad.

Buzzard · Post #37 » by **Buzzard** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:31 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Getting to play in an ideal system in college where he played with two 1st team all Americans and one of those guys commanded more attention offensively down low than any guy we have seen in a couple decades in college. Cam got to just sit outside and shoot wide open jumpers all year long.

Cam ended up shooting 35/33/77 for a smooth 49 TS%. He also may have been the worst attacker of the rim I have ever seen by a college player. He also ended up with more turnovers than assists (96 to 70), this is coming from a guy that played PG in high school at times haha.

I got the appeal of Cam, 6'8 and long with a nice smooth stroke and can play some D. He would also flash some crazy potential here and there, so I got the appeal and don't get me wrong there were plenty of times I was buying it. But it got to the point where he would have 1 good half of basketball then 5 straight of some of the worst basketball Ive seen. Dude can be rough to watch.

I got the "potential" with him, but I also thought I could easily see him being out of the league within a 2-3 years.

He needs to knock down that 3 ball and tighten up his handles significantly. I am not anywhere near ready to call him a bust because of his defensive positives and size that you mentioned. He has a chance to be unique in a positive manner and I don't think anyone considered him NBA ready; not even his most ardent supporters.

Huerter was on a minutes restriction for 8 of his first 10 games. Just when that was lifted he gets hurt again and Huerter has now missed 9 straight games. If not for that and Collins being suspended, Reddish would be playing 15 - 20 minutes a night and being brought along slowly. One or two off seasons of work and time will tell.

homecourtloss · Post #38 » by **homecourtloss** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:34 am

Harden is shooting better on heavily contested threes (most of them stepbacks) at 20% than Reddish is shooting on wide open threes (most of them at 18.5%.

Post #39 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:46 am

Buzzard wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Getting to play in an ideal system in college where he played with two 1st team all Americans and one of those guys commanded more attention offensively down low than any guy we have seen in a couple decades in college. Cam got to just sit outside and shoot wide open jumpers all year long.

Cam ended up shooting 35/33/77 for a smooth 49 TS%. He also may have been the worst attacker of the rim I have ever seen by a college player. He also ended up with more turnovers than assists (96 to 70), this is coming from a guy that played PG in high school at times haha.

I got the appeal of Cam, 6'8 and long with a nice smooth stroke and can play some D. He would also flash some crazy potential here and there, so I got the appeal and don't get me wrong there were plenty of times I was buying it. But it got to the point where he would have 1 good half of basketball then 5 straight of some of the worst basketball Ive seen. Dude can be rough to watch.

I got the "potential" with him, but I also thought I could easily see him being out of the league within a 2-3 years.

He needs to knock down that 3 ball and tighten up his handles significantly. I am not anywhere near ready to call him a bust because of his defensive positives and size that you mentioned. He has a chance to be unique in a positive manner and I don't think anyone considered him NBA ready; not even his most ardent supporters.

Huerter was on a minutes restriction for 8 of his first 10 games. Just when that was lifted he gets hurt again and Huerter has now missed 9 straight games. If not for that and Collins being suspended, Reddish would be playing 15 - 20 minutes a night and being brought along slowly. One or two off seasons of work and time will tell.

This line and, "have a consistent motor and not disappear" has been the most commonly used way to describe Cam for years now. You can go back through the Draft threads from last year and one month Im the head cheerleader of the Cam train, next month I think he's out of the league in a couple years.

As of right now, he kind of looks like all of the things I was fearing would take place. Shockingly inefficient, more turnovers than assists (This one is close), super inconsistent games (one game he can put up 17 points, then next game you forget he was even out on the court). Definitely too early to write him off, but he is definitely living up to all of the things all the people that said he was going to be a major bust at the moment.

Buzzard · Post #40 » by **Buzzard** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:52 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Getting to play in an ideal system in college where he played with two 1st team all Americans and one of those guys commanded more attention offensively down low than any guy we have seen in a couple decades in college. Cam got to just sit outside and shoot wide open jumpers all year long.

Cam ended up shooting 35/33/77 for a smooth 49 TS%. He also may have been the worst attacker of the rim I have ever seen by a college player. He also ended up with more turnovers than assists (96 to 70), this is coming from a guy that played PG in high school at times haha.

I got the appeal of Cam, 6'8 and long with a nice smooth stroke and can play some D. He would also flash some crazy potential here and there, so I got the appeal and don't get me wrong there were plenty of times I was buying it. But it got to the point where he would have 1 good half of basketball then 5 straight of some of the worst basketball Ive seen. Dude can be rough to watch.

I got the "potential" with him, but I also thought I could easily see him being out of the league within a 2-3 years.

He needs to knock down that 3 ball and tighten up his handles significantly. I am not anywhere near ready to call him a bust because of his defensive positives and size that you mentioned. He has a chance to be unique in a positive manner and I don't think anyone considered him NBA ready; not even his most ardent supporters.

Huerter was on a minutes restriction for 8 of his first 10 games. Just when that was lifted he gets hurt again and Huerter has now missed 9 straight games. If not for that and Collins being suspended, Reddish would be playing 15 - 20 minutes a night and being brought along slowly. One or two off seasons of work and time will tell.

This line and, "have a consistent motor and not disappear" has been the most commonly used way to describe Cam for years now. You can go back through the Draft threads from last year and one month Im the head cheerleader of the Cam train, next month I think he's out of the league in a couple years.

As of right now, he kind of looks like all of the things I was fearing would take place. Shockingly inefficient, more turnovers than assists (This one is close), super inconsistent games (one game he can put up 17 points, then next game you forget he was even out on the court). Definitely too early to write him off, but he is definitely living up to all of the things all the people that said he was going to be a major bust at the moment.

There is only one ROY every year and only a few rookies who really shine consistently in their first year. In a nut shell, I could name 20 or more 1st round picks and say they look like bust before the season even started and by the end of the season be right on how most of them looked.

Moral of my story, I do not put a lot into rookie seasons. They are usually brutal for 70% of the 1st round picks in every draft; and that is being conservative.