Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

[Coxy]

This is extremely close, but in my heavily biased opinion it's Klay by a country mile, but it's still close.

[Coxy]

Cheryl > Reggie > Klay

GIF mastery right here bondom, well played ole chap.

[Schiltzenberger]

Reggie never carried a team; his supporting casts are criminally underrated. Those Pacers teams were good, tough, and phenomenally coached. Not sexy on paper but greater than the sum of their parts.

You can't average 20/3/3 and "carry" a team. Sorry, not possible.

This 100%.... the team was always deep too.

A combination of his team being underrated and Reggie being overrated, has young people that never watched him pushing Reggie into this mythical legendary territory. Someone even said he was a good defender, he was average at best.
Klay matches Reggie's offensive output when playing as a 2nd or 3rd option.... while also being a far superior defender.

[Roscoe Sheed]

I don’t like either of them, but Klay is better- at shooting and especially defense.

I think Ray Allen was better than miller too- I don’t agree with espn rating Miller higher than Allen

[HeartBreakKid]

Reggie never carried a team; his supporting casts are criminally underrated. Those Pacers teams were good, tough, and phenomenally coached. Not sexy on paper but greater than the sum of their parts.

You can't average 20/3/3 and "carry" a team. Sorry, not possible.

This 100%.... the team was always deep too.

A combination of his team being underrated and Reggie being overrated, has young people that never watched him pushing Reggie into this mythical legendary territory. Someone even said he was a good defender, he was average at best.
Klay matches Reggie's offensive output when playing as a 2nd or 3rd option.... while also being a far superior defender.

I think it's funny you are inferring Reggie Miller is overrated based on the assumption that you can't carry a team without averaging large boxscore numbers. It's always interesting when people try to make it seem like others know nothing about basketball yet basically say things that makes it seem like b-ball and fantasy b-ball are the same.

Klay Thompson doesn't match Reggie Miller's offensive output - literally the only way you can possibly come to that conclusion is looking at their PPG. There isn't anything else related to their scoring that suggest they are equal. You even mentioned that Klay Thompson is the 2nd and 3rd option as if that is a handicap considering Klay and Reggie's play style.

You do realize that a stellar off ball player should in theory benefit from being a 2nd option, not be hurt by it. Klay Thompson was never as efficient as Reggie Miller despite playing in a more efficient era and playing with scorers that attracted defensive attention. You are just looking at PPG and not taking into account efficiency, era or teammates (Rik Smits is not as good as Steph Curry).

Reggie Miller also scores more than 20 PPG in the post season - it's only his career average is at 20 PPG, during his prime years he was easily above that.

Miller never had a bad post season run, he may have had seasons where his team was eliminated early but he always played well - you have to go to when he was past his prime and even then his numbers still increased relative to his RS performance. Klay Thompson has pretty much always played worse in the post season than RS, and has had 2 or 3 post season runs which were mediocre-awful.


You're basically over simplifying basketball and saying Klay Thompson and Reggie Miller are the same player, except Klay Thompson plays defense. You clearly do not see much subtlety.


The Pacers were deep, but they didn't have anyone that needed to be double teamed. So not only did the Pacers often have elite offenses, Miller also had elite efficiency along with it. So even though teams were game planning against him they couldn't stop him.

[Schiltzenberger]

Reggie never carried a team; his supporting casts are criminally underrated. Those Pacers teams were good, tough, and phenomenally coached. Not sexy on paper but greater than the sum of their parts.

You can't average 20/3/3 and "carry" a team. Sorry, not possible.

This 100%.... the team was always deep too.

A combination of his team being underrated and Reggie being overrated, has young people that never watched him pushing Reggie into this mythical legendary territory. Someone even said he was a good defender, he was average at best.
Klay matches Reggie's offensive output when playing as a 2nd or 3rd option.... while also being a far superior defender.

I think it's funny you are inferring Reggie Miller is overrated based on the assumption that you can't carry a team without averaging large boxscore numbers.

Wrong!... I have been saying for a while now that Reggie is overrated, which he is in every way, other than his shooting. Don't strawman me.

It's always interesting when people try to make it seem like others know nothing about basketball yet basically say things that makes it seem like b-ball and fantasy b-ball are the same.

lol..... so me saying Reggie is overrated is like me thinking fantasy basketball is real?.... ok

Klay Thompson doesn't match Reggie Miller's offensive output - literally the only way you can possibly come to that conclusion is looking at their PPG.

Which would be the definition of matching his offensive OUTPUT.

There isn't anything else related to their scoring that suggest they are equal.

Ummmm, they are both great 3pt shooters that mostly move off the ball to spot up for 3s.... neither of them great at creating their own shot. They are very similar on offense.
What were you saying about 'fantasy'?

You even mentioned that Klay Thompson is the 2nd and 3rd option as if that is a handicap considering Klay and Reggie's play style.

wtf?... you seriously shouldn't have made the fantasy joke. What world are you living in if you don't think playing behind Durant and Curry would impact your offensive output?

You do realize that a stellar off ball player should in theory benefit from being a 2nd option, not be hurt by it.

They'd benefit more by being the 1st option though.... you do realize this?

Klay Thompson was never as efficient as Reggie Miller despite playing in a more efficient era and playing with scorers that attracted defensive attention. You are just looking at PPG and not taking into account efficiency, era or teammates (Rik Smits is not as good as Steph Curry).

No I'm not, you're trying to strawman me again.... I watched him play, I saw where his standing was while playing and when he retired. He has been climbing the charts over the last 10 years or so, mostly due to the 3pt chuckfest and revisionist history. He is becoming overrated.

[Clyde Frazier]

Cheryl > Reggie > Klay

I didn't know Cheryl Miller's little brother played basketball!

[LKN]

I don’t like either of them, but Klay is better- at shooting and especially defense.

I think Ray Allen was better than miller too- I don’t agree with espn rating Miller higher than Allen

Klay is clearly much worse.. but I like that you bring up Ray Allen.

Allen vs Miller is a tough one.

Miller has better Career #s, but Allen was absolutely elite pre-boston. His first 4 playoff runs were ATG level (like Curry/Durant level... just a notch below MJ/LBJ)

It's really too bad Allen was generally not on great teams, because he put up some eye popping advanced offensive metrics.

Prime vs Prime I think I'd take Allen pretty easily.

[LKN]

If you think Miller can only shoot it might be worth pointing out that got to the line at the same rate MJ did (actually a touch better).

[VanWest82]

Cheryl > Reggie > Klay

I didn't know Cheryl Miller's little brother played basketball!

Cheryl > MJ. She only needed one retirement.

[PKABOOICU]

If not for MJ, Reggie was a on his way to leading his team to a championship.

[J-Wolves]

I don’t like either of them, but Klay is better- at shooting and especially defense.

I think Ray Allen was better than miller too- I don’t agree with espn rating Miller higher than Allen

ESPN are wanker$, they side with their guys Pierce and Garnett (after the Celtics wouldn't pay Ray so he left to join the Heat) hence snubbing Allen.
Ray is better than Reggie but not by much they are on the same tier at least. Klay is a tier below them with Mitch Richmond.
Player Comparison Finder: Mitch Richmond vs. Klay Thompson
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.fcgi?id=4WkaW

[Ree4erMadness]

One of the greatest performances in NBA history
25 points in the 4th quarter in MSG as the underdog. Series had no business going to 7 games. Everyone talks about the 8 points in 9 seconds but this is better.

Watch on YouTube

[draftnightsuit]

Looking at their career numbers they are fairly similar and their numbers at their peaks are also similar. They can both get you about 22 ppg 3 apg and 3 rpg, Reggie was considered a good defender but Klay is an elite defender. Klay is, up to this point, a marginally better 3 pt shooter but I would say that Reggie could score in more ways and both have reputations for being clutch. Anyway, it's a tough one to decide so I'll let y'all be the judge.

3P%:

Klay - 41.9%

Reggie- 39.5%

Klay is not a marginally better 3 pt shooter, he’s in an entirely different tier from Reggie.

However, Reggie has a higher TS% because he shoots more FTs (mostly due to his kick out move). Reggie is also a slightly better FT shooter. Klay only shoots 2.4 FTs which is insanely low for a 20 pt scorer.

Klay has one of the best, if not the best shooting forms ever. It’s absolutely perfect. But it’s almost too perfect because he shoots from a set position and doesn’t draw contact or contort his body. Meaning he isn’t going to the line very often.

Klay’s TS% is only 57.5%. That’s insanely low for such a great 3 PT shooter. TS% is slanted towards guys who shoots tons of FTs.

Basically, Klay is the better shooter but Reggie is more efficient.

[spacemonkey]

Reggie is really underrated...

[MrPerfect1]

Reggie was 10x more clutch than Klay too. Heck an argument could be made that Reggie was more clutch than Jordan (and Horry was probably more clutch than both Jordan and Reggie)

[Pennebaker]

Klay is a better scorer, and unlike Reggie he made an All-Defensive team - but Reggie led his teams and I guess until we see Klay do that he'll always be a step behind to most people.

That being said, I think Reggie is overrated.

If I were building a team and needed a shooter at SG I'd probably pick Klay.

Wouldn't be mad if I ended up with Miller though.

[LarsV8]

You can't compare Beta's to Alphas

[Reeko]

Looking at their career numbers they are fairly similar and their numbers at their peaks are also similar. They can both get you about 22 ppg 3 apg and 3 rpg, Reggie was considered a good defender but Klay is an elite defender. Klay is, up to this point, a marginally better 3 pt shooter but I would say that Reggie could score in more ways and both have reputations for being clutch. Anyway, it's a tough one to decide so I'll let y'all be the judge.

3P%:

Klay - 41.9%

Reggie- 39.5%

Klay is not a marginally better 3 pt shooter, he’s in an entirely different tier from Reggie.

However, Reggie has a higher TS% because he shoots more FTs (mostly due to his kick out move). Reggie is also a slightly better FT shooter. Klay only shoots 2.4 FTs which is insanely low for a 20 pt scorer.

Klay has one of the best, if not the best shooting forms ever. It’s absolutely perfect. But it’s almost too perfect because he shoots from a set position and doesn’t draw contact or contort his body. Meaning he isn’t going to the line very often.

Klay’s TS% is only 57.5%. That’s insanely low for such a great 3 PT shooter. TS% is slanted towards guys who

Basically, Klay is the better shooter but Reggie is more efficient.

Is Steve Kerr in a different tier than Stephen Curry?

Kerr - 45.4%

Curry - 43.5%

[J-Wolves]

Looking at their career numbers they are fairly similar and their numbers at their peaks are also similar. They can both get you about 22 ppg 3 apg and 3 rpg, Reggie was considered a good defender but Klay is an elite defender. Klay is, up to this point, a marginally better 3 pt shooter but I would say that Reggie could score in more ways and both have reputations for being clutch. Anyway, it's a tough one to decide so I'll let y'all be the judge.

3P%:

Klay - 41.9%

Reggie- 39.5%

Klay is not a marginally better 3 pt shooter, he’s in an entirely different tier from Reggie.

However, Reggie has a higher TS% because he shoots more FTs (mostly due to his kick out move). Reggie is also a slightly better FT shooter. Klay only shoots 2.4 FTs which is insanely low for a 20 pt scorer.

Klay has one of the best, if not the best shooting forms ever. It’s absolutely perfect. But it’s almost too perfect because he shoots from a set position and doesn’t draw contact or contort his body. Meaning he isn’t going to the line very often.

Klay’s TS% is only 57.5%. That’s insanely low for such a great 3 PT shooter. TS% is slanted towards guys who

Basically, Klay is the better shooter but Reggie is more efficient.

Is Steve Kerr in a different tier than Stephen Curry?

Kerr - 45.4%

Curry - 43.5%

Playoff 3pointers : Curry 40.1% VS Kerr 37.0%