Did Joakim Noah See a Single Minute Against Jokic?

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Idk. The Clippers obviously didn't have a better plan.

[tsirigoj]

Also, we glossed over the fact that Jokic is ALSO more skilled than Lebron.

Has COVID brought us to a completely different reality?

[tsirigoj]

KD is the only guy that is on the same level and KD is a perimeter player and not a big man. How in anyone's right mind is Joel Embiid more skilled than Jokic? I dont think even hardcore 6ers fans would say this.

Wait....I want this in writing.....you think Jokic is more skilled than Anthony Davis AND Giannis?

Yes. You do realize Jokic is a top 10 player in the game while being arguably the least athletic guy in the league. There is a reason he is able to be as good as he is, its because of his elite skill level.

Again, you are comfortable saying Jokic is more skilled than Anthony Davis?

[Duke4life831]

Also, we glossed over the fact that Jokic is ALSO more skilled than Lebron.

Has COVID brought us to a completely different reality?

Has your reading comprehension completely left you? When did LeBron become a big man?

[Duke4life831]

Wait....I want this in writing.....you think Jokic is more skilled than Anthony Davis AND Giannis?

Yes. You do realize Jokic is a top 10 player in the game while being arguably the least athletic guy in the league. There is a reason he is able to be as good as he is, its because of his elite skill level.

Again, you are comfortable saying Jokic is more skilled than Anthony Davis?

This is either a troll or you dont understand what the word skill means.

[FinnTheHuman]

Skilled? Definitely.

But here are some 'big men' that are more skilled:
-Lebron
-Anthony Davis
-Giannis
-Durant (obviously when healthy)
-Joel Embiid

MAYBE I'll put Jokic on the same level as KAT, but that may also be pushing it.

Do you know what the word "skill" means?

Please, explain how Giannis is a more skilled basketball player than Jokic.

.

I can give you 2 MVP and a DPOY reasons why.

You literally had James Harden mocking Giannis for having zero skills like half a year ago. Idk why you're trying to be provocative and put Jokic down this much, you're not gonna make anybody mad and you're gonna feel like a clown when he inevitably has an amazing game against your team, fueled by the one thing he has going for him - his insane level of skill.

[tsirigoj]

Also, we glossed over the fact that Jokic is ALSO more skilled than Lebron.

Has COVID brought us to a completely different reality?

Has your reading comprehension completely left you? When did LeBron become a big man?

I don't think you understand what a big man is.

Lebron is a 'big man' on many levels.

First of all, he is, indeed a 'man,' and he is 'bigger' than most NBA players. Hence, a 'big man.'

Also, he can (and occasionally, does), play on the post and absolutely dominates. If he divided his time equally between the SF/PF positions, he would be the best small forward to ever play the game AND the best power forward to ever play the game.

[Orin]

Skilled? Definitely.

But here are some 'big men' that are more skilled:
-Anthony Davis
-Giannis
-Durant (obviously when healthy)
-Joel Embiid

MAYBE I'll put Jokic on the same level as KAT, but that may also be pushing it.

KD is the only guy that is on the same level and KD is a perimeter player and not a big man. How in anyone's right mind is Joel Embiid more skilled than Jokic? I dont think even hardcore 6ers fans would say this.

Wait....I want this in writing.....you think Jokic is more skilled than Anthony Davis AND Giannis?

You are asking skilled, and not just who is better right?

Because in terms of skills, putting Giannis and Jokic in the same sentence is a joke. Davis is closer, but how can you watch Jokic and not think that he is the most skilled big in the league?

Now if you are asking who is better/ has the most impact, it's closer because of defense, but Jokic 100% has an argument as being plain better than Davis.

[tsirigoj]

Do you know what the word "skill" means?

Please, explain how Giannis is a more skilled basketball player than Jokic.

.

I can give you 2 MVP and a DPOY reasons why.

You literally had James Harden mocking Giannis for having zero skills like half a year ago. Idk why you're trying to be provocative and put Jokic down this much, you're not gonna make anybody mad and you're gonna feel like a clown when he inevitably has an amazing game against your team.

Please quote me where I'm putting Jokic down?

[tsirigoj]

KD is the only guy that is on the same level and KD is a perimeter player and not a big man. How in anyone's right mind is Joel Embiid more skilled than Jokic? I dont think even hardcore 6ers fans would say this.

Wait....I want this in writing.....you think Jokic is more skilled than Anthony Davis AND Giannis?

You are asking skilled, and not just who is better right?

Because in terms of skills, putting Giannis and Jokic in the same sentence is a joke. Davis is closer, but how can you watch Jokic and not think that he is the most skilled big in the league?

Now if you are asking who is better/ has the most impact, it's closer because of defense, but Jokic 100% has an argument as being plain better than Davis.

This is actually insane.

What does 'skilled' mean to you?

A better passer?

If it's solely a better passer, then yes, lets give it to Jokic.

There are many skills that go into being a basketball player. Anthony Davis has more of those skills and is better in more of those categories.

[FinnTheHuman]

I can give you 2 MVP and a DPOY reasons why.

You literally had James Harden mocking Giannis for having zero skills like half a year ago. Idk why you're trying to be provocative and put Jokic down this much, you're not gonna make anybody mad and you're gonna feel like a clown when he inevitably has an amazing game against your team.

Please quote me where I'm putting Jokic down?

By saying that a guy who everybody considers as all athleticism/average skill in Giannis has more skill than Jokic.

[tsirigoj]

You literally had James Harden mocking Giannis for having zero skills like half a year ago. Idk why you're trying to be provocative and put Jokic down this much, you're not gonna make anybody mad and you're gonna feel like a clown when he inevitably has an amazing game against your team.

Please quote me where I'm putting Jokic down?

By saying that a guy who everybody considers as all athleticism/average skill in Giannis has more skill than Jokic.

Aside from passing, what skill does Jokic possess in a greater capacity than Giannis?

[tsirigoj]

*Radio silence*

Even if I give you Giannis (I won't), I'm also curious to hear how Jokic has more skill than the 2 bigs he is about to face (and yes, for all intents and purposes, LeBron IS a big as he can BECOME a big at any given time -- not to mention sheer size).

Saying KD is a perimeter player does not disqualify the point that he, too, is a big. The REASON why he can play on the perimeter is BECAUSE he is more skilled.

Yeesh....

[RamonSessions7]

Please quote me where I'm putting Jokic down?

By saying that a guy who everybody considers as all athleticism/average skill in Giannis has more skill than Jokic.

Aside from passing, what skill does Jokic possess in a greater capacity than Giannis?

Shooting. for one.

[tsirigoj]

By saying that a guy who everybody considers as all athleticism/average skill in Giannis has more skill than Jokic.

Aside from passing, what skill does Jokic possess in a greater capacity than Giannis?

Shooting. for one.

We have 2 skills!

[FinnTheHuman]

Please quote me where I'm putting Jokic down?

By saying that a guy who everybody considers as all athleticism/average skill in Giannis has more skill than Jokic.

Aside from passing, what skill does Jokic possess in a greater capacity than Giannis?

Shooting, gazillion post moves, you know, the actual things you gotta practice for a long time to get good, the things that are complex and not dictated by what your body type is. Don't call rebounding a skill, don't call shot blocking a skill, don't call dunking a skill, this is no what is colloquially considered a basketball skill, you will just come off as a troll going for cheap relativism.

[tsirigoj]

By saying that a guy who everybody considers as all athleticism/average skill in Giannis has more skill than Jokic.

Aside from passing, what skill does Jokic possess in a greater capacity than Giannis?

Shooting, gazillion post moves, you know, the actual things you gotta practice for a long time to get good, the things that are complex and not dictated by what your body type is. Don't call rebounding a skill, don't call shot blocking a skill, don't call dunking a skill, this is no what is colloquially considered a basketball skill, you will just come off as a troll going for cheap relativism.

So, by your admission, the skills that consist a basketball player are passing, shooting, and post moves. Never played defense much?

[Duke4life831]

*Radio silence*

Even if I give you Giannis (I won't), I'm also curious to hear how Jokic has more skill than the 2 bigs he is about to face (and yes, for all intents and purposes, LeBron IS a big as he can BECOME a big at any given time -- not to mention sheer size).

Saying KD is a perimeter player does not disqualify the point that he, too, is a big. The REASON why he can play on the perimeter is BECAUSE he is more skilled.

Yeesh....

I believe most people are no longer replying because its become clear youre a troll or have a major lacking in basic basketball knowledge or terminology. Either way its a pointless conversation.

[Sofia]

"The most skilled big man in the game" -- now we are getting confident!

I mean is this even really debatable at the moment?

Skilled? Definitely.

But here are some 'big men' that are more skilled:
-Lebron
-Anthony Davis
-Giannis
-Durant (obviously when healthy)
-Joel Embiid

MAYBE I'll put Jokic on the same level as KAT, but that may also be pushing it.

I don’t think you know what either big men or skills are. Possibly both.

[tsirigoj]

*Radio silence*

Even if I give you Giannis (I won't), I'm also curious to hear how Jokic has more skill than the 2 bigs he is about to face (and yes, for all intents and purposes, LeBron IS a big as he can BECOME a big at any given time -- not to mention sheer size).

Saying KD is a perimeter player does not disqualify the point that he, too, is a big. The REASON why he can play on the perimeter is BECAUSE he is more skilled.

Yeesh....

I believe most people are no longer replying because its become clear youre a troll or have a major lacking in basic basketball knowledge or terminology. Either way its a pointless conversation.

I'd say I have more basketball knowledge that at least 99% of the people in this forum, but go ahead and lock this up.