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Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title

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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#21 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:08 pm

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Liam_Gallagher wrote:Dion was actually pretty good in the bubble before he got hurt before the playoffs started. Averaged 12 ppg and was one of the first players off the bench. Honestly him not being on the active roster is a praise to the Lakers and just shows how deep their team was.


He wasn't good on either end of the court. He scored 12pts on 10.5 FGA per game. VORP had him literally a 0. DPM had him -2. WS put him at .038


I don't know what those mean.


VORP is value over replacement ie how many extra wins he was worth his team versus a replacement level player. Win shares is how much he contributed to every win as a percentage. BPM (Not DPM my bad) his is how much better his team did with him on/off the court expressed in pts per game.

In every case he was a negative or net zero player. The only stat where he was positive was winshares where he had a +3.8 percent.

And it isn't just how "deep" the Lakers bench is Jared Dudley had more playoff appearances then Waiters.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#22 » by homecourtloss » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:52 pm

Dupp wrote:I’m pretty sure him and lebron would have had a bad relationship when bron came back to Cleveland. Circle of life


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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#23 » by brutalitops » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:56 pm

OKC didnt want to pay Dion Waiters 6m Dollar
Miami gave him 50 Million

Did Dion get sabotaged by Eating weed gummys? Or because He had pictures taken on him on a boat when he was too sick to practise? Sounds like he got his contract, Slacked off and Miami got sick and tired and shipped him off

Thats not backstabbing
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#24 » by goodboy » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:00 pm

We gave him the most burn on the court and sabotaged himself out of the court.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#25 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:01 pm

lol he sabotaged himself by not sticking to the 'eat half, wait 30 minutes, see how you feel' rule.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#26 » by HMFFL » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:08 pm

God Squad wrote:Let's be honest he's lucky he's in the league period.
Pretty much.
I wish he would just proceed forward without opening his mouth because he should be truly grateful the Lakers gave him a chance.

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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#27 » by makeready » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:09 pm

there's a world in which he legit thought those were regular gummies, but we probably aren't living in it
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#28 » by BBallFreak » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:17 pm

Here's the thing with Waiters in Miami.

We have him a shot, he played hard and played well. We have him a fat contract. He responded by coming to camp overweight, hurting his ankle, having surgery on the ankle, taking a year and a half to recover, then blowing off practice to ride on a boat after pretending he was sick, to finally freaking out from weed gummies.

That's not us sabotaging him, that's him sabotaging him.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#29 » by boomershadow » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:22 pm

I've made a few "miscalculations" when it comes to marijuana edibles, and ended up on the floor for awhile both times. It can happen, especially when the synthetic stuff is so potent. It is hard to judge dosage. Luckily I was either by myself or with people who took good care of me.

There ain't nothing to do except admit you messed up, own up to it, and move on. Shoving the blame somewhere else doesn't work.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#30 » by HMFFL » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:38 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Here's the thing with Waiters in Miami.

We have him a shot, he played hard and played well. We have him a fat contract. He responded by coming to camp overweight, hurting his ankle, having surgery on the ankle, taking a year and a half to recover, then blowing off practice to ride on a boat after pretending he was sick, to finally freaking out from weed gummies.

That's not us sabotaging him, that's him sabotaging him.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#31 » by Stillwater » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:42 pm

Herro looked great in the bubble until the finals.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#32 » by MotownMadness » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:59 pm

Dude cant handle his gummy bears though, that's for sure
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#33 » by MotownMadness » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:02 pm

boomershadow wrote:I've made a few "miscalculations" when it comes to marijuana edibles, and ended up on the floor for awhile both times. It can happen, especially when the synthetic stuff is so potent. It is hard to judge dosage. Luckily I was either by myself or with people who took good care of me.

There ain't nothing to do except admit you messed up, own up to it, and move on. Shoving the blame somewhere else doesn't work.

I dont eat edibles often but I am a daily weed smoker. One time I tried acid like a idiot at home like that and could hardly stay in reality. Like you come back every now and then to realize how messed up you just were and then you fade off again, scary stuff.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#34 » by Woodsanity » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:10 pm

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spikeslovechild wrote:
Liam_Gallagher wrote:Dion was actually pretty good in the bubble before he got hurt before the playoffs started. Averaged 12 ppg and was one of the first players off the bench. Honestly him not being on the active roster is a praise to the Lakers and just shows how deep their team was.


He wasn't good on either end of the court. He scored 12pts on 10.5 FGA per game. VORP had him literally a 0. DPM had him -2. WS put him at .038


I don't know what those mean.

It means he is an empty stats player, actually he is a negative on the court. Black hole on offense, horrible defender. Thinks he is a superstar when he is a scrub.
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Post#35 » by greg4012 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:04 pm

Dr Aki wrote:
miami could've used him in hindsight with dragic going down


Not even a little bit
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#36 » by daviddpc » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:24 pm

Thought he finally learn his lesson and changed. But old dog never change what an **** he is. He's probably not going to get pickup by any team now except for LA. Good luck with that. Some people just can keep there mouth shut. lol
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#37 » by meekrab » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:29 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
Liam_Gallagher wrote:Dion was actually pretty good in the bubble before he got hurt before the playoffs started. Averaged 12 ppg and was one of the first players off the bench. Honestly him not being on the active roster is a praise to the Lakers and just shows how deep their team was.


He wasn't good on either end of the court. He scored 12pts on 10.5 FGA per game. VORP had him literally a 0. DPM had him -2. WS put him at .038

In other words he was Dion Waiters?
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#38 » by Liam_Gallagher » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:00 pm

homecourtloss wrote:LeBron I’m sure wanted him traded because he wouldn’t accept his role and wanted to play like a star which he wasn’t. After the Cavs made those trades for Shumpert, JR Smith, and Mozgov, they went 33-3 with all three of James, Kyrie, and Love playing.


I had no idea they were that good until Kyrie and Love got hurt. I have no doubt they beat GS in '15, especially because LeBron was in his absolute prime, and had his best Finals ever IMO. Dude took GSW to six with Delly and T. Thompson as the focal points.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#39 » by NY 567 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:02 pm

Dion contributed about as much to this Lakers title run as I did.
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Re: Dion Waiters speaks on being “sabotaged” in Miami to winning a title 

Post#40 » by JellosJigglin » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:06 pm

Brandon_Roy wrote:


Honestly all it does is speak to the charitable heart of the Lakers and LeBron, we know “Cheeze” didn’t really move the needle on that team..

However it is amusing that he got a ring over the team that cut him


Can someone give me the english translation of this video?

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