Anyone else annoyed by the media-wide character assassination of Harden that's going on?

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Re: Anyone else annoyed by the media-wide character assassination of Harden that's going on? 

Post#21 » by Ziggie » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:03 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:Well, when you are naive enough to believe that a great athlete equals a great character you are bound to trash them. These are not holy men. We should judge them as basketball players.

And also, people are pissed that he is having a jolly old time and not listening to their masters (government) about an exaggerated flu virus that the media is trying to hype as the next black plague.


300,000 Americans would disagree with you. Oh wait, they can't, they're dead.
Allegedly. That's If you believe mainstream media

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Post#22 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:06 pm

We are just going to ignore any of Harden’s role in any of this? How about Harden stop giving them ammunition by not being and acting ridiculous?
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Post#23 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:09 pm

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xdrta+ wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:Well, when you are naive enough to believe that a great athlete equals a great character you are bound to trash them. These are not holy men. We should judge them as basketball players.

And also, people are pissed that he is having a jolly old time and not listening to their masters (government) about an exaggerated flu virus that the media is trying to hype as the next black plague.


300,000 Americans would disagree with you. Oh wait, they can't, they're dead.
Allegedly. That's If you believe mainstream media

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To those of us that have at least half a brain, it’s not allegedly.
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Re: Anyone else annoyed by the media-wide character assassination of Harden that's going on? 

Post#24 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:09 pm

Ziggie wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:Well, when you are naive enough to believe that a great athlete equals a great character you are bound to trash them. These are not holy men. We should judge them as basketball players.

And also, people are pissed that he is having a jolly old time and not listening to their masters (government) about an exaggerated flu virus that the media is trying to hype as the next black plague.


300,000 Americans would disagree with you. Oh wait, they can't, they're dead.
Allegedly. That's If you believe mainstream media

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So majority of the world is making up fake death numbers just to tank their economies? Might want to see people like Towns and many others that have been hit hard with the pandemic before alleging its a government conspiracy. A bit too much tin foil here Lol
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Re: Anyone else annoyed by the media-wide character assassination of Harden that's going on? 

Post#25 » by Sublime187 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:11 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Ziggie wrote:
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300,000 Americans would disagree with you. Oh wait, they can't, they're dead.
Allegedly. That's If you believe mainstream media

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To those of us that have at least half a brain, it’s not allegedly.


To those of us that have at least half a brain, it is allegedly.

What do we do now?
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Post#26 » by nfmos » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:12 pm

DoctorX wrote:I don't feel bad for him. He brought all this on himself. I remember reading several years ago of how him and Dwight when they were teammates would refuse to acknowledge their other teammates when eating lunch at the team cafeteria. Supposedly Dwight and Harden would sit at the same table together and wouldn't allow any other teammates to sit with him. Also the way he treated Jeremy Lin rubbed me the wrong way. So I have always thought of him as POS person.


Agree with this completely. Yes its hypocritical that this things werent being focused on before, but thats kind of the unsaid agreement he made, win, be a good team player and good person and work well with the media in a professional capacity and everyone will be helpful and kind of sweep your faults under the rug. But as soon as you stop holding up your end of the bargain, don't expect people to continue defending you. If you are making their lives more difficult, why do they have to continue worrying about covering up for you?

He convinced his team to do all these moves to make him happy, he basically ruined those situations, and now he wants to bail on them? They were dumb for giving in before, but i dont fault them for being bitter about that.
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Post#27 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:15 pm

Heej wrote:Feels like it's so clear from all the stories and the talking heads coming out that the media in general has taken it upon themselves to try and trash his reputation. Can't tell you how many podcasts I've listened to where whoever's talking starts off with the qualifier, "I consider myself a pro-player but.." and then proceeds to absolutely nuke James Harden. He hasn't exactly been carrying himself the way you would want a superstar to act but seriously every article and segment on the dude just has to be some kind of hit piece? Every media member is out there trying to get their digs in too. It's definitely not out of the ordinary for the same talking points to be repeated but this time it just feels so concerted and kinda corny tbh


Not really, I actually have been saying to Celtics fans we should be interested in him and these leaks don’t bother me at all but I do understand the criticism.

He literally lobbied and got every single thing he asked for from the rockets organization and that’s ok because stars should be pampered but he also should take some responsibility for the teams shortcomings and lack of flexibility. He then went on a public club tour in the middle of pandemic and didn’t show up for training camp with a new coach while simultaneously demanding to be traded to 1 specific location.

He’s fine for demanding a trade, he absolutely can have preferred destinations but he should have been to camp on time and ready to go and also shouldn’t be pointing all the blame on the rockets as if he had nothing to do with where they are now. Ultimately he won’t hurt his value because interested teams aren’t scared off but his demands, to an extent his play style and then his actions off court while he team was at training camp were not a good look.
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Post#28 » by Basileus777 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:15 pm

Ziggie wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:Well, when you are naive enough to believe that a great athlete equals a great character you are bound to trash them. These are not holy men. We should judge them as basketball players.

And also, people are pissed that he is having a jolly old time and not listening to their masters (government) about an exaggerated flu virus that the media is trying to hype as the next black plague.


300,000 Americans would disagree with you. Oh wait, they can't, they're dead.
Allegedly. That's If you believe mainstream media

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Post#29 » by Clay Davis » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:17 pm

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Heej wrote:Feels like it's so clear from all the stories and the talking heads coming out that the media in general has taken it upon themselves to try and trash his reputation. Can't tell you how many podcasts I've listened to where whoever's talking starts off with the qualifier, "I consider myself a pro-player but.." and then proceeds to absolutely nuke James Harden. He hasn't exactly been carrying himself the way you would want a superstar to act but seriously every article and segment on the dude just has to be some kind of hit piece? Every media member is out there trying to get their digs in too. It's definitely not out of the ordinary for the same talking points to be repeated but this time it just feels so concerted and kinda corny tbh


Not really, I actually have been saying to Celtics fans we should be interested in him and these leaks don’t bother me at all but I do understand the criticism.

He literally lobbied and got every single thing he asked for from the rockets organization and that’s ok because stars should be pampered but he also should take some responsibility for the teams shortcomings and lack of flexibility. He then went on a public club tour in the middle of pandemic and didn’t show up for training camp with a new coach while simultaneously demanding to be traded to 1 specific location.

He’s fine for demanding a trade, he absolutely can have preferred destinations but he should have been to camp on time and ready to go and also shouldn’t be pointing all the blame on the rockets as if he had nothing to do with where they are now. Ultimately he won’t hurt his value because interested teams aren’t scared off but his demands, to an extent his play style and then his actions off court while he team was at training camp were not a good look.
Fertitta is on the record saying he pushed his BB ops team to go through with the WB trade. It wasn't a Harden decision.

D'Antoni and Morey like Harden enough to want to work with him again. Would D'Antoni push for Harden knowing he doesn't play well with others?
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Re: Anyone else annoyed by the media-wide character assassination of Harden that's going on? 

Post#30 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:20 pm

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hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Ziggie wrote:Allegedly. That's If you believe mainstream media

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To those of us that have at least half a brain, it’s not allegedly.


To those of us that have at least half a brain, it is allegedly.

What do we do now?


Continue to marginalize and clown your type and your unintelligent and dangerous views. Same thing we always do.
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Post#31 » by jayu70 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:32 pm

Harden didn't handle 'it' well but it seems like an excessive pile on by the 'media'. It's not like they didn't know these stories before, they just opted not to write/discuss them before.
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Post#32 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:57 pm

It’s not character assassination to report on what someone is doing lol.


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Post#33 » by Bornstellar » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:06 pm

The Rockets have given Harden everything he's wanted. And by all reports he has created a toxic culture with no accountability. Why should we not rip him for that? I only wish the media had done the same thing Kawhi pulled this nonsense and raked a 5-star organization through the coals over some BS because he didn't want to just man up and say he wanted to go home. I'm glad that Houston isn't getting demolished over this. Fertitta is a d-bag owner, but the organization is more than just the owner, and since Harden has been there they have been world class and have done everything he's asked for. Why shouldn't he shoulder the blame now that he is acting like an unprofessional ass? Eff Harden.
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Post#34 » by MindState » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:08 pm

Doubt Harden cares. Whats the worst that can happen?

Its not like hes gonna have to deal with fans booing him or heckling him during games? Fans wont be allowed back into arenas for like the next few years.
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Post#35 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:09 pm

There are other players who do much worse, but are smart enough to not let it become a national **** conversation. Dude is just a foolish kid. Happens all over the nba.
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Post#36 » by Galloisdaman » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:10 pm

Facts are facts. If you behave in a way you think looks negatively then change that behavior.
If a guy goes to Vegas instead of camp is it the guys fault or the media?
My eyes glaze over when reading alternative stat (not advanced stat) narratives that go many paragraphs long. If you can not make your point in 2 paragraphs it may not be a great point. :D
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Post#37 » by Meeksology » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:15 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
To those of us that have at least half a brain, it’s not allegedly.


To those of us that have at least half a brain, it is allegedly.

What do we do now?


Continue to marginalize and clown your type and your unintelligent and dangerous views. Same thing we always do.
It is a very dangerous view. One of my buddies thought like that, Covid is a sham! Blah blah blah. Then unfortunately his grandfather caught it and passed away from it (to all the naysayers, yes he passed away from covid, not another disease or illness that covid just pushed over the edge). It's very unfortunate because it had to hit him personally before he started believing it. I wish that on no one.

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Post#38 » by Nate505 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:16 pm

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Post#39 » by xdrta+ » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:17 pm

MindState wrote:Doubt Harden cares. Whats the worst that can happen?

Its not like hes gonna have to deal with fans booing him or heckling him during games? Fans wont be allowed back into arenas for like the next few years.


The Rockets are allowing limited fans numbers of fans in the Arena to start the season.
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Post#40 » by Ziggie » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:17 pm

Meeksology wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:
To those of us that have at least half a brain, it is allegedly.

What do we do now?


Continue to marginalize and clown your type and your unintelligent and dangerous views. Same thing we always do.
It is a very dangerous view. One of my buddies thought like that, Covid is a sham! Blah blah blah. Then unfortunately his grandfather caught it and passed away from it (to all the naysayers, yes he passed away from covid, not another disease or illness that covid just pushed over the edge). It's very unfortunate because it had to hit him personally before he started believing it. I wish that on no one.

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