4th best defensive player in NBA

Catchall · Post #21 » by **Catchall** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:36 am

Capella maybe

nominate Lu Dort

Meeksology · Post #22 » by **Meeksology** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:46 am

1210HM wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:v: Turner
n: Capela

Capela is already in the poll.

Read better next time.

You don't have to act like a dick about it
This is an unnecessary insult
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JimmyPlopper · Post #23 » by **JimmyPlopper** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:25 am

babyjax13 wrote:
KqWIN wrote:
JimmyPlopper wrote:It's taken me some time to come around to really appreciate him, but I think Royce O'Neale is amazing.

He does a lot of little things no defense that add a lot of value, but as a man defender (which is his main role) I think he leaves something to be desired. He's kind of a B+ level defender across a variety of positions and much worse than that against quicker guards.

I think this is accurate. He's, IMO a top 10-12 perimeter defender, but that probably doesn't translate to more than about the 30th most impactful defender in the league (ish).

As a non-Jazz fan, but a Jazz appreciator, he just seems to me to be a lot smarter than 90% of the league in terms of knowing where the ball is going and where he should put himself. I feel like I watched the him a lot before, but his is more of a newfound development he has made in his game.

Another thing I absolutely love about this guy is that I have noticed he holds the ball in his hands for the least amount of team required for what he feels he needs to do on offense. He is a model of intelligence and efficiency.

Slim Charless · Post #24 » by **Slim Charless** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:27 am

Dupp wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Dupp wrote:How did Simmons come second he’s not even the best defender in his team

???

Ask Luka and Dame how crappy he is.

Simmons might be best perimeter defender in the league.

Very illogical response. Pause and think.

Cool......just did. Ben Simmons is still the best perimeter defender in the league. You're still very wrong about Biid being better.

KqWIN · Post #25 » by **KqWIN** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:51 am

JimmyPlopper wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
KqWIN wrote:
He does a lot of little things no defense that add a lot of value, but as a man defender (which is his main role) I think he leaves something to be desired. He's kind of a B+ level defender across a variety of positions and much worse than that against quicker guards.

I think this is accurate. He's, IMO a top 10-12 perimeter defender, but that probably doesn't translate to more than about the 30th most impactful defender in the league (ish).

As a non-Jazz fan, but a Jazz appreciator, he just seems to me to be a lot smarter than 90% of the league in terms of knowing where the ball is going and where he should put himself. I feel like I watched the him a lot before, but his is more of a newfound development he has made in his game.

Another thing I absolutely love about this guy is that I have noticed he holds the ball in his hands for the least amount of team required for what he feels he needs to do on offense. He is a model of intelligence and efficiency.

He is a smart player and that shows on both ends. He's come along way too. Early in his career it was extremely stressful whenever he took a dribble because his decision making was just a little off. Nowadays he seems to make the right decision almost every time and very quickly like you said.

This shows up on defense and on the glass too. His best defensive attribute is probably bumping people and getting good position. He knows how to get his body in the way of what the offense wants to do.

Royce also takes the hardest matchups every night, but he's just kind of above average at "locking down" those matchups. He works hard but is almost always at a size, speed, or athleticism advantage...sometimes it's all of the above and it gets really tough for him. He also takes some bad angles on screens which really hurts his ability to guard in PnR.

dautjazz · Post #26 » by **dautjazz** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:44 am

JimmyPlopper wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
KqWIN wrote:
He does a lot of little things no defense that add a lot of value, but as a man defender (which is his main role) I think he leaves something to be desired. He's kind of a B+ level defender across a variety of positions and much worse than that against quicker guards.

I think this is accurate. He's, IMO a top 10-12 perimeter defender, but that probably doesn't translate to more than about the 30th most impactful defender in the league (ish).

As a non-Jazz fan, but a Jazz appreciator, he just seems to me to be a lot smarter than 90% of the league in terms of knowing where the ball is going and where he should put himself. I feel like I watched the him a lot before, but his is more of a newfound development he has made in his game.

Another thing I absolutely love about this guy is that I have noticed he holds the ball in his hands for the least amount of team required for what he feels he needs to do on offense. He is a model of intelligence and efficiency.

Nice to see Royce getting some love. He's really blossomed this season. He's a beast at shooting the 3, crashing the boards (for his size), and his defense is great. He definitely is handed the most difficult assignments on most nights, and more often than not he does a good job containing them. Hell he held Giannis to like 7pts in the first half their last matchup.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #27 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:50 am

Nominate wiggins

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #28 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:03 pm

Meeksology wrote:
1210HM wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:v: Turner
n: Capela

Capela is already in the poll.

Read better next time.
You don't have to act like a dick about it

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yoyoboy · Post #29 » by **yoyoboy** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:27 pm

Larry Nance deserves to be nominated. People who haven’t watched him this season don’t know but before he went down with injury he was having an All-NBA defensive season.

2nd in the league in deflections per game behind Simmons.
5th in defensive loose balls recovered per game.
3rd in steals per game.
-9.0 defensive on-off and he made a terrible defensive supporting cast look pretty good when he was actually on the court.

Gibson22 · Post #30 » by **Gibson22** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:37 pm

Nominate dort and I can't take this seriously without him in here. He's all time level as far as guards

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #31 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:50 pm

lebron3-14-3 wrote:Nominate dort and I can't take this seriously without him in here. He's all time level as far as guards

Well can't take you too seriously if you consider Dort as the 4th best defender in NBA.

Nate505 · Post #32 » by **Nate505** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:43 pm

1210HM wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:v: Turner
n: Capela

Capela is already in the poll.

Read better next time.

So edgy.

Gibson22 · Post #33 » by **Gibson22** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:21 pm

1210HM wrote:
lebron3-14-3 wrote:Nominate dort and I can't take this seriously without him in here. He's all time level as far as guards

Well can't take you too seriously if you consider Dort as the 4th best defender in NBA.[/quote

Where did I say I'd have him #4?

LoveMyRaps · Post #34 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:59 pm

Vote: Embiid
Nominate: FVV

Pantsman · Post #35 » by **Pantsman** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 12:02 am

yoyoboy wrote:Larry Nance deserves to be nominated. People who haven’t watched him this season don’t know but before he went down with injury he was having an All-NBA defensive season.

2nd in the league in deflections per game behind Simmons.
5th in defensive loose balls recovered per game.
3rd in steals per game.
-9.0 defensive on-off and he made a terrible defensive supporting cast look pretty good when he was actually on the court.

He’s probably missed too many games.

brutalitops · Post #36 » by **brutalitops** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 12:07 am

Dupp wrote:How did Simmons come second he’s not even the best defender in his team

Did Gobert Just get traded to the sixers?

Antinomy · Post #37 » by **Antinomy** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 12:40 am

Bam has to find his way into the top of this list.

Dude’s mobility & lateral movement for a big is ridiculous. He has the running gait of a wing.

He’s probably the most versatile & switchable player in the league along with Giannis & AD. Can legitimately guard 1-5. I don’t know how anyone could think Simmons is better defensively than him.

Meeksology · Post #38 » by **Meeksology** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 12:59 am

1210HM wrote:
Meeksology wrote:
1210HM wrote:Capela is already in the poll.

Read better next time.
You don't have to act like a dick about it

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I read it perfectly fine

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SUPERVILLAIN · Post #39 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 1:29 am

Meeksology wrote:
1210HM wrote:
Meeksology wrote:You don't have to act like a dick about it

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Being a good reader will only do you good.
I read it perfectly fine

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So don't mind me asking someone to read better. Unlike you, I didn't even use offensive words.

Meeksology · Post #40 » by **Meeksology** » Mon Mar 1, 2021 1:58 am

1210HM wrote:
Meeksology wrote:
1210HM wrote:Being a good reader will only do you good.
I read it perfectly fine

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So don't mind me asking someone to read better. Unlike you, I didn't even use offensive words.

U didn't ask someone to read better, u acted like a total dick.

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Strike: Personal Attack
I warned you before about using derogatory language against other posters