Nets wont win a title with the garbage they have at center

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Re: Nets wont win a title with the garbage they have at center 

Post#21 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:50 pm

Between LaMarcus Aldridge, Deandre Jordan, Blake Griffin, and Speedy Claxton, they need to find 35-40 minutes of just okay play. I’m sure they will have 10 minutes or so of small ball with KD or Green at the 5.

I’m pretty confident they can get good enough play where it won’t cancel out the advantage of having KD/Harden/Kyrie all on the same team. I think they’re looking okay.
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Post#22 » by druggas » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:50 pm

LloydFree wrote:I don't think what they have at Center matters as much as their Defense as a whole, or their health. Kyrie is always hurt towards the end of seasons and KD is a bit of a question mark based on the lower half injuries to he's had.

Correct answer.
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Post#23 » by Hullajelolt » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:53 pm

That garbage includes three former All-Stars, and an up and coming young player. What more can you expect when you already have three max salary players on your roster?
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Post#24 » by kuclas » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:00 pm

If embiid is causing 3 Dallas centers to get into foul trouble by halftime like last night, it may be a serious issue. I still think KD/Harden/Kyrie will be too much fire power for any team.

Vs Bucks Giannis will guard KD (wash), Middleton on Harden, Jrue on Kyrie (wash), Lopez on Nets centers

Vs Sixers, Simmons/Harris on KD, Thybulle/Green on Harden, Simmons? on Kyrie (wash), Embiid on Nets Centers


Those are favorable matchups for Nets because they will have at least on favorable matchup on offense at all times.
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Post#25 » by The_Hater » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:02 pm

brannigan73 wrote:That thought crystalized in my mind watching the Lakers and Brooklyn on Saturday and watching Drummond brutalize LeMarcus Aldridge. Either D'Andre Jordan enters some kind of fountain of youth and can give them about 20-25 effective minutes per game in the playoffs or as good as Harden, Irving, and Durant will be on offense I just feel like having no defensive presense inside will catch up to them eventually. If they think they are winning a title with LeMarcus Aldridge playing center for 20-25 minutes a game they are sadly mistaken imo. At the very least they are going to need at some point to acquire a defensive minded center that can be a serviceable roll man, defend the paint, and defensive rebound in they want to have a mini dynasty. When they play Embiid and Giannis in the playoffs those two guys are going to be able to name there point totals with the roster as it is. They will also get crushed on the boards against those two teams. They might actually have an easier time if they can get to the finals if they can avoid the Lakers and Nuggets. If its the Lakers Anthony Davis will name his point totals and Lebron will be chachaing to the basket all game long. If its the Nuggets same thing with Jokic plus size all over that roster.


Apparently you haven’t been paying attention the last few seasons.

The Lakers won with Howard/Mcgee

The Warriors won with Bogut/Mcgee and other dregs

The Cavs won with Thompson/Frye/Mozgov

Since when is having a great Center important to winning a championship? Aldridge/Claxton/Jordan isn’t even the worst group out of these 4 teams and might be the strongest.

The Nets have problems which may hold them back, but this one doesn’t even rank in the top 7 imo.
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Post#26 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:09 pm

levon wrote:Yeah, their bigs aren't going to do a great job. Everyone saying Drummond will be played off the floor are missing Lebron and AD playing LMA, Blake, and DJ off the floor. And I guarantee you Lebron will be targeting Claxton and Jeff Green in switches to free up the offensive glass for AD.


We literally don't have to play Blake, LMA or DJ big minutes at all.

Sure LeBron will target them. Just like Kyrie and Harden will target Schroeder and Caldwell Pope lol. Good luck.
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Re: Nets wont win a title with the garbage they have at center 

Post#27 » by jpengland » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 pm

Nets don't need to worry about Drummond. He won't stay on the court in the playoffs.

They do, however, need to worry about guys running lay up lines on them with zero rim protection and Kyrie and Harden on the perimeter.
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Post#28 » by levon » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:12 pm

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brannigan73 wrote:That thought crystalized in my mind watching the Lakers and Brooklyn on Saturday and watching Drummond brutalize LeMarcus Aldridge. Either D'Andre Jordan enters some kind of fountain of youth and can give them about 20-25 effective minutes per game in the playoffs or as good as Harden, Irving, and Durant will be on offense I just feel like having no defensive presense inside will catch up to them eventually. If they think they are winning a title with LeMarcus Aldridge playing center for 20-25 minutes a game they are sadly mistaken imo. At the very least they are going to need at some point to acquire a defensive minded center that can be a serviceable roll man, defend the paint, and defensive rebound in they want to have a mini dynasty. When they play Embiid and Giannis in the playoffs those two guys are going to be able to name there point totals with the roster as it is. They will also get crushed on the boards against those two teams. They might actually have an easier time if they can get to the finals if they can avoid the Lakers and Nuggets. If its the Lakers Anthony Davis will name his point totals and Lebron will be chachaing to the basket all game long. If its the Nuggets same thing with Jokic plus size all over that roster.


Apparently you haven’t been paying attention the last few seasons.

The Lakers won with Howard/Mcgee

The Warriors won with Bogut/Mcgee and other dregs

The Cavs won with Thompson/Frye/Mozgov

Since when is having a great Center important to winning a championship? Aldridge/Claxton/Jordan isn’t even the worst group out of these 4 teams and might be the strongest.

The Nets have problems which may hold them back, but this one doesn’t even rank in the top 7 imo.

That's a little disingenuous to say the Lakers won with McGee and Howard though. The Lakers won with AD at center, and they were big, athletic, and physically imposing at every position. McGee and Howard were situational, sometimes even just time wasters and energy-conservers, akin to LMA, Blake, and DJ.
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Post#29 » by jpengland » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:12 pm

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brannigan73 wrote:That thought crystalized in my mind watching the Lakers and Brooklyn on Saturday and watching Drummond brutalize LeMarcus Aldridge. Either D'Andre Jordan enters some kind of fountain of youth and can give them about 20-25 effective minutes per game in the playoffs or as good as Harden, Irving, and Durant will be on offense I just feel like having no defensive presense inside will catch up to them eventually. If they think they are winning a title with LeMarcus Aldridge playing center for 20-25 minutes a game they are sadly mistaken imo. At the very least they are going to need at some point to acquire a defensive minded center that can be a serviceable roll man, defend the paint, and defensive rebound in they want to have a mini dynasty. When they play Embiid and Giannis in the playoffs those two guys are going to be able to name there point totals with the roster as it is. They will also get crushed on the boards against those two teams. They might actually have an easier time if they can get to the finals if they can avoid the Lakers and Nuggets. If its the Lakers Anthony Davis will name his point totals and Lebron will be chachaing to the basket all game long. If its the Nuggets same thing with Jokic plus size all over that roster.


Apparently you haven’t been paying attention the last few seasons.

The Lakers won with Howard/Mcgee

The Warriors won with Bogut/Mcgee and other dregs

The Cavs won with Thompson/Frye/Mozgov

Since when is having a great Center important to winning a championship? Aldridge/Claxton/Jordan isn’t even the worst group out of these 4 teams and might be the strongest.

The Nets have problems which may hold them back, but this one doesn’t even rank in the top 7 imo.



Do you need a great C? Nope.

But you do need rim protection. Lakers had Davis, Howard and McGee.

Bogut was a great rim protector.
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Re: Nets wont win a title with the garbage they have at center 

Post#30 » by The_Hater » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:15 pm

jpengland wrote:Nets don't need to worry about Drummond. He won't stay on the court in the playoffs.

They do, however, need to worry about guys running lay up lines on them with zero rim protection and Kyrie and Harden on the perimeter.


The other reason the Nets don’t need to worry about Drummond is that he’s not particularly good himself. He can’t make shots from the field, he can’t make FT’s, he’s not a particularly strong defender, but he has made a reputation for himself as a better than advertised player because some people seem to think that individual rebounds are an important stat.

He might give the, what Howard gave them last season, but not much more.
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Re: Nets wont win a title with the garbage they have at center 

Post#31 » by DoctorX » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:18 pm

Drummond had a fluke game against the Nets. That's the way I look at it since he's not going to score 20 points every game against the Nets in a 7 game series. I can't see him getting 20 plus which would result in Lebron/AD getting less. He will get his garbage buckets off of putbacks,lobs, with those guys. I don't see them running the offense through him like they did last week as the primary guy on the offensive end. Aldridge/Claxton/Jordan all have to do a decent job of cleaning the boards and the Nets will be fine.
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Post#32 » by Dr Aki » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:05 am

Adebayo, Giannis and Embiid are gonna feast
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Post#33 » by PistolPeteJR » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:31 am

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brannigan73 wrote:That thought crystalized in my mind watching the Lakers and Brooklyn on Saturday and watching Drummond brutalize LeMarcus Aldridge. Either D'Andre Jordan enters some kind of fountain of youth and can give them about 20-25 effective minutes per game in the playoffs or as good as Harden, Irving, and Durant will be on offense I just feel like having no defensive presense inside will catch up to them eventually. If they think they are winning a title with LeMarcus Aldridge playing center for 20-25 minutes a game they are sadly mistaken imo. At the very least they are going to need at some point to acquire a defensive minded center that can be a serviceable roll man, defend the paint, and defensive rebound in they want to have a mini dynasty. When they play Embiid and Giannis in the playoffs those two guys are going to be able to name there point totals with the roster as it is. They will also get crushed on the boards against those two teams. They might actually have an easier time if they can get to the finals if they can avoid the Lakers and Nuggets. If its the Lakers Anthony Davis will name his point totals and Lebron will be chachaing to the basket all game long. If its the Nuggets same thing with Jokic plus size all over that roster.


Apparently you haven’t been paying attention the last few seasons.

The Lakers won with Howard/Mcgee

The Warriors won with Bogut/Mcgee and other dregs

The Cavs won with Thompson/Frye/Mozgov

Since when is having a great Center important to winning a championship? Aldridge/Claxton/Jordan isn’t even the worst group out of these 4 teams and might be the strongest.

The Nets have problems which may hold them back, but this one doesn’t even rank in the top 7 imo.


This is somewhat dishonest because the Lakers played AD at the 5 a lot, and the Warriors played Draymond at the 5 a lot. In this era, in the seasons when the aforementioned teams won, those would be considered as “great centers”.
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Post#34 » by Ballerhogger » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:33 am

It’s all going come down half court sets and swinging the ball to the open man . Oh yea if your soft in the middle the nets will expose you . The bucks can’t bang with nets , only teams that can heat not worried about them not enough offense , 76ers is only team and can abuse the nets in the middle
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Post#35 » by Ballerhogger » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:34 am

Dr Aki wrote:Adebayo, Giannis and Embiid are gonna feast

Giannis can’t box out every time . He will lose steam
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Post#36 » by EArl » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:36 am

Beethoven wrote:
IgorK wrote:Lakers won the title with AD/Morris at center. You don't need a "real center" to win it all.

levon wrote:Yeah, their bigs aren't going to do a great job. Everyone saying Drummond will be played off the floor are missing Lebron and AD playing LMA, Blake, and DJ off the floor. And I guarantee you Lebron will be targeting Claxton and Jeff Green in switches to free up the offensive glass for AD.

yeah. I am sure Vogel and staff already know our weaknesses and strengths and already have adjustments noted for future games.

It is not like Nash and co. who need to read through all these forums to find out what their fans want their team to do.

So, i would stop posting our counters here. Why give them feedback?
Just post "you netters are right ! yes we have a low IQ center! we gonna get blasted!"

8-)

Its going to be crazy seeing AD and Drummond gobbling everything that gets missed. If we make it to the finals, Brooklyn will need to focus on limiting our 2nd point chances. Easier said than done when you have two bigs on the floor.
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Post#37 » by infinite11285 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:37 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Between LaMarcus Aldridge, Deandre Jordan, Blake Griffin, and Speedy Claxton, they need to find 35-40 minutes of just okay play. I’m sure they will have 10 minutes or so of small ball with KD or Green at the 5.

I’m pretty confident they can get good enough play where it won’t cancel out the advantage of having KD/Harden/Kyrie all on the same team. I think they’re looking okay.


How much help does Durant need? :noway:
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Post#38 » by infinite11285 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:38 am

Personally, I don't believe your C matters when you have Durant, Harden, and Kyrie in your starting 5.
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Post#39 » by norcocredo » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:43 am

They have the talent to overcome their center shortcomings.
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Post#40 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:44 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:When the Big 3 come back they will target Drummond and play him off the floor. I'm not too worried about him at all.

It was one game.


Lakers are chomping at the bit for Brooklyn to go small leaving the basket unprotected with LeBron and AD on the floor. That’s exactly what they want.

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