Absolute BS: Spurs fined 25k for resting players

orlando_joe · Post #21 » by **orlando_joe** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:31 pm

MelTurpin wrote:$25,000 for a team is a pitifully small amount that doesn't hurt at all. I'm sure that's part of the message here.

right when will magic do it ..what will it cost 350 thousand for rest of yr...everynight teams rest ...tonight houston rest wall..magic should shut down ross,ennis and carter for the yr..play the 3 d league guys and 2-way guys

Freighttrain · Post #22 » by **Freighttrain** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:32 pm

Jazz just rested all their players against us. Shouldn't they be fined as well then?

Lalouie · Post #23 » by **Lalouie** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:35 pm

this is not a road the nba should be taking. this is a road the nba as an org brought upon itself and now it's trying to pass the buck

the nba is heading down a really bad path. it's structure is breaking down

GuyverX · Post #24 » by **GuyverX** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:35 pm

Not really sure why they didn't just give an injury excuse. Sore right foot or toe is good enough to not get fined. The Clippers got around Kawhi load managing every single back to back last season. Everybody knew.

BernteB · Post #25 » by **BernteB** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:37 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:
BernteB wrote:generally speaking, it's a joke that the league can tell the coaches who to play and who not. if a coach decides to not play a player for whatever reason, it's the coach's decision.

Not when it comes to quality players who should definitely be playing big minutes. This is an entertainment business where you are contractually obliged to put out a product on the court for the viewers who pay for that one way or the other, and unless you've got a reasonable explanation as to why your player is missing a certain game, you are supposed to get fined.

who defines "quality players"? the nba? how do they define it? the more a player makes, the the more of a "qualitiy player" he is? what if a "quality player" gets subbed out after tipp off and rests for the rest of the game? is that a fine? what if a "quality player" sucked balls during training and the coach thinks his "quality players", well, sucks balls, and he decideds to take him out of the rotation, because he's the bloody coach?

first of all, it's a sports league, and that's not how sports leagues work. why do the teams have coaches anyways if the league requires the teams to play their "qualitiy players" no matter what?

Raps in 4 · Post #26 » by **Raps in 4** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:38 pm

Lalouie wrote:this is not a road the nba should be taking. this is a road the nba as an org brought upon itself and now it's trying to pass the buck

the nba is heading down a really bad path. it's structure is breaking down

This.

The schedule is unnecessarily long and dense, which encourages playoff teams to rest players.

On the other hand, the draft lottery is based on reverse positioning in the standings. Naturally, lottery teams will rest players to increase their odds of getting a high pick.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #27 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:39 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Jazz just rested all their players against us. Shouldn't they be fined as well then?

The Jazz officially sat their guys out for minor injuries.

Someone on the Spurs staff forgot to write “ankle soreness” on the report and cost the team the equivalent of pennies to a normal person.

There’s not much to see here.

Tor_Raps · Post #28 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:48 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Jazz just rested all their players against us. Shouldn't they be fined as well then?

The Jazz officially sat their guys out for minor injuries.

Someone on the Spurs staff forgot to write “ankle soreness” on the report and cost the team the equivalent of pennies to a normal person.

There’s not much to see here.

Agreed. I remember one time my mom told my school that I didn't feel like going today after I missed my school bus instead of just making something up. I happened to get an in school suspension for that the following day.

Moral of the story, just BS everything at all times lol.

Ballerhogger · Post #29 » by **Ballerhogger** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:55 pm

Better start fining the nets too joke

Ballerhogger · Post #30 » by **Ballerhogger** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:56 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Jazz just rested all their players against us. Shouldn't they be fined as well then?

The Jazz officially sat their guys out for minor injuries.

Someone on the Spurs staff forgot to write “ankle soreness” on the report and cost the team the equivalent of pennies to a normal person.

There’s not much to see here.

It’s not about if it’s 1 dollar or 100k it’s the principal of the matter

Castle Black · Post #31 » by **Castle Black** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:56 pm

Meanwhile Al Horford is in Mexico sipping Piña Coladas for the remainder of the season while still getting paid millions cause he doesn’t feel like playing lol. Adam Silver is a joke.

Ballerhogger · Post #32 » by **Ballerhogger** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:57 pm

Sliver better have this figured out in off season or revenue is going be lot worst with fans being able go again .

Ballerhogger · Post #33 » by **Ballerhogger** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:59 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Jazz just rested all their players against us. Shouldn't they be fined as well then?

Yes

Pharmcat · Post #34 » by **Pharmcat** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:12 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:The Spurs broke the rules by resting 2 healthy players during an away game. The Nets have never done that as they’ve dealt with real injuries and COVID protocol absences.

The NBA created clear rules for resting players, some teams are better at following those rules than others.

The thunder sent horford home for the year to continue their tank. Yet they escape criticism

Post #35 » by **og15** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:21 pm

What happened? Spurs didn't care enough to make up a fake injury / sit a guy with a playable ailment?

Lalouie · Post #36 » by **Lalouie** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:27 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Jazz just rested all their players against us. Shouldn't they be fined as well then?

The Jazz officially sat their guys out for minor injuries.

Someone on the Spurs staff forgot to write “ankle soreness” on the report and cost the team the equivalent of pennies to a normal person.

There’s not much to see here.

while that may be very true, it is a workaround to cheat in a really bad environment

Phreak50 · Post #37 » by **Phreak50** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:33 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:When are the Nets getting fined? They've been sitting guys randomly all year.

The Nets players have actually been injured, rehabbing, in COVID protocol or for Kyries case a personal absence.

The Spurs rested 2 healthy guys without explanation, that’s why they got fined.

.

What a load of BS.

Let's just do a Kyrie then ... DNP Personal Reasons and be seen at parties and on Zoom meetings.

slicedbread2 · Post #38 » by **slicedbread2** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:34 pm

Castle Black wrote:Meanwhile Al Horford is in Mexico sipping Piña Coladas for the remainder of the season while still getting paid millions cause he doesn’t feel like playing lol. Adam Silver is a joke.

Maybe he went back to the Dominican Republic to chill out. Actually scratch that after David Ortiz got stabbed there it'd be a bad idea for him to go there knowing his notoriety.

Either the league fines everybody or nobody gets fined. I'll never forget how Silver forced the Raptors to play games with half the roster being in health&safety protocols but gave other teams in similar binds the opportunity to postpone those games. It's some major BS, but boy I never thought I'd be saying this but I really wish someone like David Stern were running ship. He wouldn't put up with the BS players are pulling now.

With Silver, they see him as a spineless cockroach whom they can step on over and over knowing he ain't gonna do crap.

Post #39 » by **G R E Y** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:51 pm

Agree 100% with Bornstellar.

Some context:

Read on Twitter

Some other context: This was our eighth game in 11 days which included two back-to-backs, both requiring travel. This was our FIFTH game this week!

Sure there are rules in place. But the spirit of the law is being ignored for the letter. When the NBA schedules a tight 72 games for teams, AND when there's a necessity to reschedule the games missed due to Covid, thus making an already tight schedule that much more ridiculously so - again, only ONE day rest at most between games in the second half of the season for us! - maybe adjust the rule for resting players that was in place pre-Covid. It doesn't make sense to apply rules for circumstances that the rule wasn't designed to cover.

Like the rash of injuries isn't a big enough hint?!

And for those suggesting to just lie and make one up - and I agree that teams are doing this given the reasons we see for players out a single game which just happens to be the second of a back-to-back - well that puts the team's medical staff at risk, and given our precedence setting luck, we're the team that would get investigated. It's just not the way we operate anyway. Guys were tired. Jakob has played every game, Patty's played more than his average, and DeMar's played a ton while being the main focus of opponent D. They were out for rest.

League has to make adjustments in good faith rather than adhere to a rule that is applicable to an 82-game schedule without extra rescheduled games crammed in. Otherwise, the implication is tacit consent to being lied to or to being ok with greater risk of injury, neither of which is in line with its integrity of the game mantra or league revenues and fan interest. Get it right.

FinnTheHuman · Post #40 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:51 pm

BernteB wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:
BernteB wrote:generally speaking, it's a joke that the league can tell the coaches who to play and who not. if a coach decides to not play a player for whatever reason, it's the coach's decision.

Not when it comes to quality players who should definitely be playing big minutes. This is an entertainment business where you are contractually obliged to put out a product on the court for the viewers who pay for that one way or the other, and unless you've got a reasonable explanation as to why your player is missing a certain game, you are supposed to get fined.

who defines "quality players"? the nba? how do they define it? the more a player makes, the the more of a "qualitiy player" he is? what if a "quality player" gets subbed out after tipp off and rests for the rest of the game? is that a fine? what if a "quality player" sucked balls during training and the coach thinks his "quality players", well, sucks balls, and he decideds to take him out of the rotation, because he's the bloody coach?

first of all, it's a sports league, and that's not how sports leagues work. why do the teams have coaches anyways if the league requires the teams to play their "qualitiy players" no matter what?

You are arguing for edge cases, and the league probably did their research on what happened and found out none of those edge cases you named happened.

And if your line of thinking was in place, no verdict could ever be reached on anything. Business just doesn't work that way.