Mark Cuban finally being exposed as the awful owner he is

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Re: Mark Cuban finally being exposed as the awful owner he is 

Post#21 » by Kilroy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:04 am

Pharmcat wrote:False start: This thread is one year too early .


This... I personally believe Cuban is a joke owner, but this is clearly his defining moment... He has a franchise, championship caliber superstar now to build around, if he can't do it, then he's exposed... Now, he's just teetering on the fence.
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Post#22 » by seren » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:31 am

Finally? He has been awful since the day he let Nash leave.
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Post#23 » by Galloisdaman » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:49 am

Leslie Forman wrote:Is the sheen finally off this snake oil selling charlatan?

The man only became rich off of essentially a scam he sold to the morons at Yahoo that was maybe the worst corporate purchase ever. Every other company he's created is pretty much worthless in comparison. The guy literally had Ring right in front of him available for next to nothing and this supposed tech genius had less vision than SHAQ for it.


Worse than that he went on CNBC and laughed at Yahoo being scammed. That cost many yahoo shareholders (individual, mutual funds and pension funds) a lot of money. It is one thing for he to get a ridiculous amount of money for very little. Its another thing to gloat in the faces of people that lost money.
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Re: Mark Cuban finally being exposed as the awful owner he is 

Post#24 » by Pharmcat » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:53 am

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Leslie Forman wrote:Is the sheen finally off this snake oil selling charlatan?

The man only became rich off of essentially a scam he sold to the morons at Yahoo that was maybe the worst corporate purchase ever. Every other company he's created is pretty much worthless in comparison. The guy literally had Ring right in front of him available for next to nothing and this supposed tech genius had less vision than SHAQ for it.


Worse than that he went on CNBC and laughed at Yahoo being scammed. That cost many yahoo shareholders (individual, mutual funds and pension funds) a lot of money. It is one thing for he to get a ridiculous amount of money for very little. Its another thing to gloat in the faces of people that lost money.


I had mentioned it another thread that Cubes was overrated . He’s lucky morons at yahoo existed (same morons who declined to buy google when it was offered to them). He also has passed on the highest grossing shark tank products (scrub daddy and bombas ).
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Re: Mark Cuban finally being exposed as the awful owner he is 

Post#25 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:58 am

Not defending Cuban's most recent actions but Dallas has won the 2nd most games in the Association in his tenure and only has 3 bad seasons in 2 decades. There is a long list of absolutely incompetent owners before you get to old Cuban. He spent gobs of money. He hired good people and kept them in place forever. Was the first owner to embrace analytics, was the owner responsible for major upgrades for players--I mean before Mark Cuban players sat on old unpadded folding chairs on the bench. He took it in the shorts for the entire league and as much as everyone still complains about officiating he is directly responsible for the increased transparency and accountability around officiating.

Easy to take your shots today. I'm pissed at him today. But snake oil, and worst owner, and eXpOsEd? Nah.
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Post#26 » by TheRealKaboom » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:16 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Not defending Cuban's most recent actions but Dallas has won the 2nd most games in the Association in his tenure and only has 3 bad seasons in 2 decades. There is a long list of absolutely incompetent owners before you get to old Cuban. He spent gobs of money. He hired good people and kept them in place forever. Was the first owner to embrace analytics, was the owner responsible for major upgrades for players--I mean before Mark Cuban players sat on old unpadded folding chairs on the bench. He took it in the shorts for the entire league and as much as everyone still complains about officiating he is directly responsible for the increased transparency and accountability around officiating.

Easy to take your shots today. I'm pissed at him today. But snake oil, and worst owner, and eXpOsEd? Nah.
The sexual assault allegations he swept under the rug are disturbing. Why wasn't he transparent about that the way he was about the refs?

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Post#27 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:19 am

Galloisdaman wrote:Worse than that he went on CNBC and laughed at Yahoo being scammed. That cost many yahoo shareholders (individual, mutual funds and pension funds) a lot of money. It is one thing for he to get a ridiculous amount of money for very little. Its another thing to gloat in the faces of people that lost money.

Yup. He just got lucky on one scam during the internet boom. He says random vague buzzwords and phrases that schmucks watching TV think are brilliant business acumen. I mean look at what just happened to his trash ass crypto. The guy has done nothing since RADIO ON INTERNET lmfao.

The venn diagram of Mark Cuban fans, Joe Rogan fans, and Dan Blizerian fans is just a circle.

Texas Chuck wrote:Not defending Cuban's most recent actions but Dallas has won the 2nd most games in the Association in his tenure and only has 3 bad seasons in 2 decades. There is a long list of absolutely incompetent owners before you get to old Cuban. He spent gobs of money. He hired good people and kept them in place forever. Was the first owner to embrace analytics, was the owner responsible for major upgrades for players--I mean before Mark Cuban players sat on old unpadded folding chairs on the bench. He took it in the shorts for the entire league and as much as everyone still complains about officiating he is directly responsible for the increased transparency and accountability around officiating.

Easy to take your shots today. I'm pissed at him today. But snake oil, and worst owner, and eXpOsEd? Nah.

Yeah, and Jerry Reinsdorf has SIX titles. He sucks ass too. He was also seen as some brilliant, forward thinking owner in the early '90s.

"Analytics" please, what is the point of all those spreadsheets when they just end up with you handing Erick Dampier $70+mil? Harrison Barnes $90+mil? Kristaps Porzingis $150+mil? You really need all those math PhDs (or gambling hucksters, same thing apparently) to make trash decisions like that?

And fancy folding chairs…lol you gotta be F'n kidding me.
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Post#28 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:21 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:Not defending Cuban's most recent actions but Dallas has won the 2nd most games in the Association in his tenure and only has 3 bad seasons in 2 decades. There is a long list of absolutely incompetent owners before you get to old Cuban. He spent gobs of money. He hired good people and kept them in place forever. Was the first owner to embrace analytics, was the owner responsible for major upgrades for players--I mean before Mark Cuban players sat on old unpadded folding chairs on the bench. He took it in the shorts for the entire league and as much as everyone still complains about officiating he is directly responsible for the increased transparency and accountability around officiating.

Easy to take your shots today. I'm pissed at him today. But snake oil, and worst owner, and eXpOsEd? Nah.
The sexual assault allegations he swept under the rug are disturbing. Why wasn't he transparent about that the way he was about the refs?

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I don't know. He screwed that up really bad. Not defending that, never defended it.
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Post#29 » by durden_tyler » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:28 am

He owns lots of bitcoin so he's good in my book.
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Post#30 » by the_flash__ » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:29 am

People really forget Mavs won a championship under his ownership? That's more success than most teams in the NBA. OP screams hater.

No excuse for the sexual harassment stuff though.
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Post#31 » by Pointgod » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:31 am

If I’m a head coach or GM I’m staying the hell away from the Mavericks. The pressure to win is going to be immense. Will Cuban take a step back and empower his GM and coach to make the right decisions? I can see him pressuring a new GM to make some stupid moves like resigning Hardaway and trading more draft picks for a win now player.
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Post#32 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:43 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Even with such low hanging fruit this is a pretty bad troll job. I give it half a star. More effort next time. You left off Dairy Queen, ref baiting, Sharknado, driving around looking for DeAndre, the Frankenstein haircut, those awful football Mavs jersies he tried to make a thing for way too long, The Benefactor. And those are just the hits. Didn't even get into the deep cuts this sort of OP really requires.


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Re: Mark Cuban finally being exposed as the awful owner he is 

Post#33 » by Winsome Gerbil » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:48 am

Edrees wrote:
Theo Ratliff wrote:Cuban's biggest fault is his loyalty to certain players/coaches. It set the Mavs back a decade.


If the mavs weren't bad the years before drafting Doncic they wouldn't have been in a position to draft him and they'd probably be a treadmill team now.Drafting an all time great like Doncic is the best result the Mavs could have hoped out of the last decade.


You can only get so much credit for the Doncic get, given that another franchise ahead in the draft order very clearly should have taken him.

So...current Mavs roster...minus Doncic...plus Marvin Bagley. How are they doing?
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Post#34 » by durden_tyler » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:02 am

Pointgod wrote:If I’m a head coach or GM I’m staying the hell away from the Mavericks. The pressure to win is going to be immense. Will Cuban take a step back and empower his GM and coach to make the right decisions? I can see him pressuring a new GM to make some stupid moves like resigning Hardaway and trading more draft picks for a win now player.


Maybe. But flipside is you're working with Luka, who's looking like at least a Top 3 player in the next 10 years. Which coach/player does not want to play with type of player?
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Post#35 » by Leslie Forman » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:07 am

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Pointgod wrote:If I’m a head coach or GM I’m staying the hell away from the Mavericks. The pressure to win is going to be immense. Will Cuban take a step back and empower his GM and coach to make the right decisions? I can see him pressuring a new GM to make some stupid moves like resigning Hardaway and trading more draft picks for a win now player.


Maybe. But flipside is you're working with Luka, who's looking like at least a Top 3 player in the next 10 years. Which coach/player does not want to play with type of player?

We've seen big name players choose against playing with LeBron (even demand a trade away from him), why wouldn't some other guys decline to play with an even more ball dominant player?
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Post#36 » by dirkforpres » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:12 am

Pointgod wrote:If I’m a head coach or GM I’m staying the hell away from the Mavericks. The pressure to win is going to be immense. Will Cuban take a step back and empower his GM and coach to make the right decisions? I can see him pressuring a new GM to make some stupid moves like resigning Hardaway and trading more draft picks for a win now player.


Coaches and GMs will be lining up to work with Cuban and Doncic. Let’s not act like the Mavs fire coaches and GMs every 2 years. This is literally the first time they’ve done either in over a decade.
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Post#37 » by Beethoven » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:06 am

Lol. Says the armchair loser who hasn't done any real work in his life yet. Or ever.
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Post#38 » by HMFFL » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:09 am

Fadeaway_Jumper wrote:Mark Cuban is a great owner. Mavs were one of the first franchises to put the players first ahead of costs. Every podcast I’ve heard someone talk about Cuban they express how he has great character and mainly does right by people

Mav fans you guys are still in good hands
The problem has been that Cuban has spend money on a team that was always build for regular season success. It wasn't until we acquired Tyson Chandler that things changed and in viewed the team as a true title contender. Thankfully he failed his physical with Oklahoma City. Many of us on the Dallas forum wanted Tyson for awhile and viewed him as "the" piece we needed.


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Post#39 » by durden_tyler » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:09 am

Leslie Forman wrote:
durden_tyler wrote:
Pointgod wrote:If I’m a head coach or GM I’m staying the hell away from the Mavericks. The pressure to win is going to be immense. Will Cuban take a step back and empower his GM and coach to make the right decisions? I can see him pressuring a new GM to make some stupid moves like resigning Hardaway and trading more draft picks for a win now player.


Maybe. But flipside is you're working with Luka, who's looking like at least a Top 3 player in the next 10 years. Which coach/player does not want to play with type of player?

We've seen big name players choose against playing with LeBron (even demand a trade away from him), why wouldn't some other guys decline to play with an even more ball dominant player?


Again flipside is players (stars) will also want to play with him, so let's see i guess.
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Post#40 » by GOATTatum » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:11 am

I’ve always thought top level free agent don’t sign with the Mavs because they either don’t want to play for an out spoken team owner like Cuban or because Nowitzki was an older player. Now they have a young LeBron(ish) type player, if top level free agents still don’t want to come to Dallas then the problem is Cuban.

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