CP3 needs to be benched

evilpimp972 · Post #21 » by **evilpimp972** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:28 am

Game was lost because Clips got away with playing midgets around Ayton, he needs to be more involved

YFZblu · Post #22 » by **YFZblu** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:29 am

The High Cyde wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Pretty sure Payne is hurt. No Sun played well tonight.

When did he get hurt? Not saying he’s not, it’s obvious to me he doesn’t look right, he was lighting us up earlier, and with no Zu and a hobbled Morris I thought he was going kill us.

Chris Paul also looks hurt, a step slower than usual for sure. It might be COVID or his body is still getting used to the intensity and grind of playoff ball again.

The ankle. 13 minutes logically makes no sense otherwise IMO, considering how bad CP3 was. At one point they chose to run Book at the point, and he was coughing it up every possession...if Payne is healthy, that strategy is pure madness.

TheNewEra · Post #23 » by **TheNewEra** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:37 am

Payne is clearly still bothered with his ankle so I don’t know how you can even try to limit Paul

Post #24 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:50 am

YFZblu wrote:
The High Cyde wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Pretty sure Payne is hurt. No Sun played well tonight.

When did he get hurt? Not saying he’s not, it’s obvious to me he doesn’t look right, he was lighting us up earlier, and with no Zu and a hobbled Morris I thought he was going kill us.

Chris Paul also looks hurt, a step slower than usual for sure. It might be COVID or his body is still getting used to the intensity and grind of playoff ball again.

The ankle. 13 minutes logically makes no sense otherwise IMO, considering how bad CP3 was. At one point they chose to run Book at the point, and he was coughing it up every possession...if Payne is healthy, that strategy is pure madness.

Yeah, Book cannot be primary ball handler in a unit. Paul or Payne need to be in there. Paul didn't play THAT badly except for his missed 3s, which will happen. Outside of that he was 8-13 with 8 ast and 2 turnovers. Too much hero ball from Book. He had gotten away from that for about 7 games before the last 4 games and has not shot well since (except from 3 tonight he hit some).

DroseReturnChi · Post #25 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:54 am

cp3 is washed. whoever extends will lose their star.

baller16 · Post #26 » by **baller16** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:05 am

CP3 playing with a slow pace is what's killing the Suns offense right now. He wastes so much time bringing the ball up and burning the clock leading to a bad possession. Also not taking advantage of Ayton against their small ball lineup was ridiculous. Could've had Ayton feasting or living at the line at worst with the Clippers missing Zubac.

Soca · Post #27 » by **Soca** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:06 am

He needs to stop flopping.

clippertown · Post #28 » by **clippertown** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:39 am

Payne game was an anomaly. His speed took advantage of weary Clipper legs and overcompensation towards Booker. Since Bookers game has become less potent and the Clips have their sixth wind, the speed game of Payne is far less effective. He drove all night but was denied time and again. If Suns win this, it will be CP3 that leads them through the storm, not Payne.

JN61 · Post #29 » by **JN61** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:38 am

HotRocks34 wrote:Payne gives the Clips fits with his speed.

I'm guessing Paul is still feeling the Covid effects. Also, when you're old (as Paul is), and you take a layoff (2 weeks), it takes longer to get your body back in gear. So he may be fighting that, too.

He is just over the hill

Saberestar · Post #30 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:49 am

Pharmcat wrote:Maybe it’s the effects of covid , or the postseason yips have made their way. But if the Suns have any chance to win this series (it’s already pretty low) they need to bench CP3 and start Payne and play more uptempo. CP has ruined their flow, is flopping around for an Oscar , and looks terrible. His cliff is right around the corner at any minute .

The only question is if Monty has the guts to do it.

Oh my god...I do not even know what to say...

Good job with another bad hot take. Keep it up.

jsierra1985 · Post #31 » by **jsierra1985** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:05 am

onto game 6

SamSepiol · Post #32 » by **SamSepiol** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am

Pharmcat on the GB

KGtabake · Post #33 » by **KGtabake** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:28 am

That flop was ridiculous indeed. Other than that, he brings himself into shape through games. Finals or not, no other option, so ..

foreigngrammar · Post #34 » by **foreigngrammar** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:25 am

dygaction wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:I’m still trying to figure out what happened to his three ball this series. 2-16….WTF. For a guy who shot nearly 40% from distance during the regular season he sure as hell doesn’t look comfortable or confident shooting it. It almost looks like he has a bum hamstring with the lack of lift he’s getting on the shot.

He tries too hard to sell for fouls - Many of the attempts with legs all out.

Or MAYBE just MAYBE an ailing shoulder

Post #35 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:31 pm

The High Cyde wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Pretty sure Payne is hurt. No Sun played well tonight.

When did he get hurt? Not saying he’s not, it’s obvious to me he doesn’t look right, he was lighting us up earlier, and with no Zu and a hobbled Morris I thought he was going kill us.

Chris Paul also looks hurt, a step slower than usual for sure. It might be COVID or his body is still getting used to the intensity and grind of playoff ball again.

Game 3 he hurt something, which is why they played CP 39 minutes, don't remember what, ankle maybe

Post #36 » by **og15** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:31 pm

foreigngrammar wrote:
dygaction wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:I’m still trying to figure out what happened to his three ball this series. 2-16….WTF. For a guy who shot nearly 40% from distance during the regular season he sure as hell doesn’t look comfortable or confident shooting it. It almost looks like he has a bum hamstring with the lack of lift he’s getting on the shot.

He tries too hard to sell for fouls - Many of the attempts with legs all out.

Or MAYBE just MAYBE an ailing shoulder

He carved up Denver for 26/10 on 63/75 shooting, where was the ailing shoulder then?

It's a combination of not being in playoff shape and the Clippers also defending well.

TwitterFingers · Post #37 » by **TwitterFingers** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:38 pm

It won’t happen. A player of Chris Paul’s status doesn’t get benched. However it’s hard to argue the Suns have looked better in this series with Chris Paul

Post #38 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:52 pm

og15 wrote:
The High Cyde wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Pretty sure Payne is hurt. No Sun played well tonight.

When did he get hurt? Not saying he’s not, it’s obvious to me he doesn’t look right, he was lighting us up earlier, and with no Zu and a hobbled Morris I thought he was going kill us.

Chris Paul also looks hurt, a step slower than usual for sure. It might be COVID or his body is still getting used to the intensity and grind of playoff ball again.

Game 3 he hurt something, which is why they played CP 39 minutes, don't remember what, ankle maybe

He sprained his ankle and was questionable and then probably for game 4.

In the first two games he scored 40 on 50% shooting and the last 3 he scored 12 on 27.7% shooting.

No-more-rings · Post #39 » by **No-more-rings** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:55 pm

Not saying it's going to happen, but if CP3 goes out and drops 35/15 and leads them to victory tonight this thread is going to look very foolish.

kenwood3333 · Post #40 » by **kenwood3333** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:55 pm

Monty will not have the guts to bench CP3 that is for sure. Its the same situation as Doc unwilling to bench Simmons.