How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season?

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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#21 » by _qubik » Sat Oct 9, 2021 8:01 pm

Best case scenario is Herro competing for 6MOY and MIP, he was never bad, problem is people expected him to carry his bubble play into the season. People said he had a bad season, he averaged more points, rebounds and assists, his eFG% was .52 rookie season and .516 sophomore season, with 3 more minutes, he was about the same both seasons in the advanced stats. Dudes having a nice start to his carreer, he will get plenty of looks this year, and plenty of time playing off great vets. Even if he doesnt improve much more in his carreer he is already a valuable roster piece, but I expect a lot, and can envision him being the third best player of a very good team
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#22 » by Scalabrine » Sat Oct 9, 2021 9:40 pm

ocelot17 wrote:If he was that good then Miami wouldn’t have signed Lowry to a max contract.


What the F do those two things have to do with eachother. They could easily play together.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#23 » by Shock Defeat » Sat Oct 9, 2021 10:20 pm

He'll be good enough to get that nice contract extension and then go back to partying life once he's got the guaranteed jack. The Chandler Parsons playbook
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Post#24 » by twozeroMM » Sat Oct 9, 2021 10:24 pm

ocelot17 wrote:If he was that good then Miami wouldn’t have signed Lowry to a max contract.

How do these two things relate? Different position and adding talent to the team
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#25 » by azcatz11 » Sat Oct 9, 2021 10:34 pm

rate_ wrote:
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rate_ wrote:Seems we have mixed feelings on his potential on here: from those thinking he isn't any good to some thinking star potential. Who is a good NBA player comparison, past or present, in terms of how you envision Herro's career trajectory, or skillset?


Kevin Martin?

Majority of Kevin Martin's shots were assisted in his career. The Heat are asking Herro to run the offense from the second unit, and only 21.4% of his field goal makes have been assisted thus far in the preseason. Herro also appears to be a better rebounder and playmaker than Kevin Martin IMO.


Better shooter, skinnier Jamal mashburn?
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Post#26 » by MrBigShot » Sat Oct 9, 2021 10:51 pm

I see 20/5/3 on solid efficiency in an expanded role this season. Star in the making imo. Yeah he is focused on expanding his brand off the court and all, but I don't look at Herro and see a guy just satisfied with being a 6th man caliber player.
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Post#27 » by HotelVitale » Sat Oct 9, 2021 10:58 pm

rate_ wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
rate_ wrote:Seems we have mixed feelings on his potential on here: from those thinking he isn't any good to some thinking star potential. Who is a good NBA player comparison, past or present, in terms of how you envision Herro's career trajectory, or skillset?
Kevin Martin?

Majority of Kevin Martin's shots were assisted in his career. The Heat are asking Herro to run the offense from the second unit, and only 21.4% of his field goal makes have been assisted thus far in the preseason. Herro also appears to be a better rebounder and playmaker than Kevin Martin IMO.


Nah, the majority of Kevin Martin's 3s were assisted but he didn't shoot that many of them, 4 or 5 per game. He was an efficient 20+ ppg guy because he also got the rim well, got his own midrangers, and got to the line 7-10 times per game in his peak.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#28 » by rate_ » Sat Oct 9, 2021 11:51 pm

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azcatz11 wrote: Kevin Martin?

Majority of Kevin Martin's shots were assisted in his career. The Heat are asking Herro to run the offense from the second unit, and only 21.4% of his field goal makes have been assisted thus far in the preseason. Herro also appears to be a better rebounder and playmaker than Kevin Martin IMO.


Nah, the majority of Kevin Martin's 3s were assisted but he didn't shoot that many of them, 4 or 5 per game. He was an efficient 20+ ppg guy because he also got the rim well, got his own midrangers, and got to the line 7-10 times per game in his peak.

Majority of his 2s also were assisted according to b-ref. He was never asked to be a primary ballhandler on the level of Herro. Kevin Martin is more like a pure SG whereas Herro is PG/SG hybrid.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#29 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sat Oct 9, 2021 11:57 pm

He's got potential to be an elite 3rd scoring option long term and very important player, but talk of all star etc is a bit premature for me. Possible, but I wouldn't bet on it or anything.
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Post#30 » by HotelVitale » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:06 am

rate_ wrote:
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rate_ wrote: Majority of Kevin Martin's shots were assisted in his career. The Heat are asking Herro to run the offense from the second unit, and only 21.4% of his field goal makes have been assisted thus far in the preseason. Herro also appears to be a better rebounder and playmaker than Kevin Martin IMO.
Nah, the majority of Kevin Martin's 3s were assisted but he didn't shoot that many of them, 4 or 5 per game. He was an efficient 20+ ppg guy because he also got the rim well, got his own midrangers, and got to the line 7-10 times per game in his peak.
Majority of his 2s also were assisted according to b-ref. He was never asked to be a primary ballhandler on the level of Herro. Kevin Martin is more like a pure SG whereas Herro is PG/SG hybrid.


That's cool they're letting Herro run some point in PS but it's not like he's as good as Martin was and also tinkers with some PG duties. Martin drew 4-5 times as many FTs per game in his prime and got to the rim twice as much as Herro (he was a really good cutter too). His biggest strength is something Herro does very little of (so far at least). Martin scored way more per minute overall, despite playing in a much lower scoring era. Herro gotta make some major leaps in his driving/cutting game to give that comparison any legs.
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Post#31 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:20 am

Poor man's Terry Rozier.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#32 » by The_Hater » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:23 am

Herro took so much unwarranted flak on this site last season it was ridiculous. I even saw one poster predict that he’d be out of the league by the end of his rookie contract. He was 20.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#33 » by MarcusBrody » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:04 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:something similar to finals. he isnt washed or anything hes like simmons mentally jimmy and lowry gave him mental boost.
If there is one thing I'm absolutely sure of with Tyler Herro, it's that he is not mentally like Simmons. His shooting came and went a bit over his first two years, but he was always willing to take a high pressure shot (and he hit a decent number of them).
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#34 » by Tottery » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:20 am

blueNorange wrote:herro's biggest problem is becoming overrated due to the finals, he's a very good player but people have big expectations when he's just not that type of player.


I agree with this. He is the type that can compete for sixth man of the year, but not quite a superstar.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#35 » by The_Hater » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:58 am

MarcusBrody wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:something similar to finals. he isnt washed or anything hes like simmons mentally jimmy and lowry gave him mental boost.
If there is one thing I'm absolutely sure of with Tyler Herro, it's that he is not mentally like Simmons. His shooting came and went a bit over his first two years, but he was always willing to take a high pressure shot (and he hit a decent never of them).


Wait, is he comparing Tyler Herro, the guy who stepped up his game in the playoffs in 2020 as a 20 year old, to a guy who completely folds in the playoffs almost every season? What’s this theory based on?

Another painfully bad take from DRose.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#36 » by The_Hater » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:01 am

Tottery wrote:
blueNorange wrote:herro's biggest problem is becoming overrated due to the finals, he's a very good player but people have big expectations when he's just not that type of player.


I agree with this. He is the type that can compete for sixth man of the year, but not quite a superstar.


There’s still a huge gap between 6th man and superstar.

He’s only 21, so he should be a long time NBA starter. And if he just shows steady improvement the next 3-4 years he could play in an all star game or maybe more than 1. Ive never seen anyone project him to be a superstar however, and if someone did, it was just hyperbole.
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Re: How will Tyler Herro fare this upcoming season? 

Post#37 » by heatwillbeback » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:02 am

I hope to see him make the jump to be a sixth man of the year contender. I think he has that potential.

I do worry, as I have all offseason, of the Heat's lack of a backup pg. Tyler can play the role, but doesn't do it well and it takes him away from what he is good at as a natural scorer. If he gets bogged down in that, his play and teams play will suffer.
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Post#38 » by Pelly24 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:56 am

16/2/5 on 59 TS%, still a negative on defense, but more consistent on offense and capable of big games whenever.
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Post#40 » by Buckets22 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:24 pm

He will be definitely more than a standard fare!

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