Kyrie Irving Megathread: [Latest] NETS Will Not Offer Irving $186M Extension

[DaPessimist]

I'm still kinda confused as to why he can't play if he just goes through covid testing like last year?


Also, when they travel, I imagine Kyrie will have to be under covid protocol. Which means essentially he can't leave his room or have guests, right?

[DusterBuster]

I'm still kinda confused as to why he can't play if he just goes through covid testing like last year?


Also, when they travel, I imagine Kyrie will have to be under covid protocol. Which means essentially he can't leave his room or have guests, right?

Last year local governments in different states didn't have vaccine mandates like they do now.

[shangrila]

Man if these dudes were on the Knicks the amount of bashing would’ve been what it already is x100.. we dodged a bullet even tho I do wish we had KD

You must have your head in the stand cause all I see is non stop bashing from everywhere (deservedly so). Idk what x100 came out of your ass.

Everyone is a victim around here

[Lalouie]

The US really needs to do something to crack down on rampant misinformation. Kyrie is about to blow up his whole career and a chance at a basketball dynasty because of conspiracies and not understanding science….
This is not how rationale human beings think. If Kyrie wanted to I’m sure the NBA and Nets would have Fauci call him personally to answer all his questions. If it’s gotten to the point where your teammates have to go to chairman and governor because you’re a dip ****, then it’s getting ridiculous.

take away the covid stuff and this is about being a teammate, being there for them, and being there for kd who kyrie recruited.

and if the reports are true that kyrie would retire if he doesn't play for the nets then he is contradicting himself

and not getting vaxxed for "personal" reasons not to be discussed is utterly idiotic. say why and move on. kyrie told everyone he thinks the earth is flat(which btw he apologized for). what can bring more humiliation than that

[LordCovington33]

Kyrie for Simmons straight up.

Will not happen. Too much risk of him retiring and it’s well established he is not a team player.

[LordCovington33]

Kyrie for Simmons straight up.

Why would the Sixers want that. As big of a headache as Simmons has been, he still pales in comparison to Kyrie. Maybe is Simmons had stuck to his guns with not playing until there is a trade... maybe the Sixers would have considered it. But now that he's gonna play, why would you want Kyrie when he's barely going to be eligible to play in half the games this season (and the foreseeable future)?

While I don’t want Kyrie, why only half the games this season if in Philly? The mandate does not apply to them, right?

[JujitsuFlip]

Kyrie for Simmons straight up.

Why would the Sixers want that. As big of a headache as Simmons has been, he still pales in comparison to Kyrie. Maybe is Simmons had stuck to his guns with not playing until there is a trade... maybe the Sixers would have considered it. But now that he's gonna play, why would you want Kyrie when he's barely going to be eligible to play in half the games this season (and the foreseeable future)?

While I don’t want Kyrie, why only half the games this season if in Philly? The mandate does not apply to them, right?

In the hypothetical Kyrie traded to Philly, he is eligible for all 82 games.

[RoyceDa59]

I love Kyrie for Simmons for both teams.

Embiid, Kyrie & Harris
Vs
Durant, Harden & Simmons

[xdrta+]

Kyrie for Simmons straight up.

Why would the Sixers want that. As big of a headache as Simmons has been, he still pales in comparison to Kyrie. Maybe is Simmons had stuck to his guns with not playing until there is a trade... maybe the Sixers would have considered it. But now that he's gonna play, why would you want Kyrie when he's barely going to be eligible to play in half the games this season (and the foreseeable future)?

While I don’t want Kyrie, why only half the games this season if in Philly? The mandate does not apply to them, right?

Right, he could play all games in Philly. All games everywhere except NYC and SF.

[DTP]

The organization shouldn't publically put either KD or Harden in that position....the management need to grow a pair and make a decision. KD isn't going to want to publically go against Ky and neither will Harden, so this will basically be a situation where Kyrie is able to do whatever the hell he wants simply because no one wants to tell him no.

Don't want the vaccine? That's cool. But take the year off.

[JujitsuFlip]

Why would the Sixers want that. As big of a headache as Simmons has been, he still pales in comparison to Kyrie. Maybe is Simmons had stuck to his guns with not playing until there is a trade... maybe the Sixers would have considered it. But now that he's gonna play, why would you want Kyrie when he's barely going to be eligible to play in half the games this season (and the foreseeable future)?

While I don’t want Kyrie, why only half the games this season if in Philly? The mandate does not apply to them, right?

Right, he could play all games in Philly. All games everywhere except NYC and SF.

He could even play in those cities if he were on the 76ers. Mandates only apply to home players, not away players.

[SNPA]

Qyrie

Will

Never

Give

In

!!!!!!

(World is flat)

[G R E Y]

76ers have already said they don't want an Irving/Simmons swap. So that's that (well, for now)...

I imagine that KD and JH will be willing to first approach this as a 'let's see how we do with Irving in and out of the line-up'. Perhaps the mandate will be lifted sooner rather than later? (Doutbful). Perhaps it can be spun as a positive that the more various line-ups can get used to playing with one another, the stronger they will be come playoff time. But you have to wonder how understanding they will be when Irving can't play a crucial home game in the POs.

There could be some compromise timeline of playing with/without him and at a certain point they meet again to discuss further measures and/ordeclare that they want Irving fully in or fully out.

Irving's response to both talks with his team mates and the situation will likely also dictate ownership's willingness to re-sign him (again, state measures also being a factor). But even if state measures are lifted, it seems Irving has a pattern of taking things further and making it more difficult for the team to handle with each situation. Something for the FO to consider as well.

[celticfan42487]

I guess the an Irving for Simmons swap makes a lot of sense for 2 really struggling to resolve absurdly painful situation franchises.

Simmons doesn't need to score with KD and Harden on a team. Honestly doesn't even need to be in the starting lineup because KD and Harden is enough to be a contender but I'm sure he will be and then taken out for end of game situations to open up spacing for their clear outs.

[HollowEarth]

The US really needs to do something to crack down on rampant misinformation. Kyrie is about to blow up his whole career and a chance at a basketball dynasty because of conspiracies and not understanding science….
This is not how rationale human beings think. If Kyrie wanted to I’m sure the NBA and Nets would have Fauci call him personally to answer all his questions. If it’s gotten to the point where your teammates have to go to chairman and governor because you’re a dip ****, then it’s getting ridiculous.

take away the covid stuff and this is about being a teammate, being there for them, and being there for kd who kyrie recruited.

and if the reports are true that kyrie would retire if he doesn't play for the nets then he is contradicting himself

and not getting vaxxed for "personal" reasons not to be discussed is utterly idiotic. say why and move on. kyrie told everyone he thinks the earth is flat(which btw he apologized for). what can bring more humiliation than that

Yeah, well, it turns out that you've like seriously underestimated Kyrie Irving. You think oh maybe he's got some normal reason comparable to Wiggins or MPJ (vegan and all natural lifestyles) or maybe he's just waiting for more info? Hell no:

Irving, who serves as a vice president on the executive committee of the players’ union, recently started following and liking Instagram posts from a conspiracy theorist who claims that “secret societies” are implanting vaccines in a plot to connect Black people to a master computer for “a plan of Satan.” This Moderna microchip misinformation campaign has spread across multiple NBA locker rooms and group chats, according to several of the dozen-plus current players, Hall-of-Famers, league executives, arena workers and virologists interviewed for this story over the past week.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/

[HollowEarth]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10014604-woj-kevin-durant-james-harden-to-be-involved-in-deciding-kyrie-irvings-nets-status


One, good Lord is governor a brutal nickname for owner. If I open up or buy a restaurant, am i a restaurant owner or a restaurant governor? If we're gonna make owner a dirty word, atleast go with chairman. That atleast makes more sense definition wise.

So anyway, they're gonna meet with the GM and the chairman to discuss his playing time. If I'm them, I would tell Kyrie he's either all in or all out. With him going back and forth in and out of the lineup all season, that's gonna be brutal for building continuity and a pecking order for plays, shots, feel, etc. Even without him they're a championship contender. Probably would have won it last year without Kyrie if Harden was healthy. Having to constantly adjust then re-adjust their roles on a game to game basis will do more harm than good imo, especially come playoff time.

I would have gone the other way past even governor. If I owned a team and couldn't call myself an owner (tainted word now) I'd only agree to the most impressive title possible. Either call me Pope or call me robo-falcon. That's what I want on the tv screen by my name, not chairman.

[Pelly24]

I could really only see Kyrie on a team like Philly, because it's close enough to NJ and he'd still be on a contender, and Dr. J—whom he kinda has jokingly referenced a few times because their names are like, homonyms—played on the 76ers. He and Embiid would be one of the best duos in the league, probably No. 3 after Harden and KD and then LeBron and AD in some order. Really, this would be better for the league. Embiid has the half court offense maestro he's needed for a long time. Nets get a guy who is generally pretty durable, is such a great defender that he makes their net rating maybe even higher than it could've been with Kyrie (even if not a better team) and there's enough shooting to maybe make his lack of shooting not so damning. Also, you probably don't have to worry about Ben Simmons randomly retiring and he's younger. He's two or so tiers down as a player from Kyrie, IMO. Kyrie is a legit perennial All-NBA talent and his game is very scalable and would fit on virtually every team. Simmons needs to be on a squad where he isn't the second option. On the nets he'd never have to be that and he'd play with the best playmaker he's ever had, by far.

If I'm harden and KD, I try to trade Kyrie for another all-star or I just wait it out. I think honestly there's a better chance of the Nets finding a loophole for this than maybe we realize. They've already fixed the practice situation. Kyrie isn't an NYC resident and he technically commutes to NYC like traveling opponents. I have no idea if that will work, but I wouldn't be totally shocked. There are very, very rich men involved. But yeah. Trading Kyrie for role players won't cut it. Even if he misses playoff games, that's an extra surge you've got that could keep a defense totally off balance. Kyrie doesn't need a rhythm. If he's healthy at the right moment with a healthy KD and Harden, they'll win the chip. W. role players...I feel like they already have enough of them. But if they can get like, a CJ McCollum or someone I'd do it.

[art_tatum]

They are all vets. Last year guys were going in and out of the lineup and we were fine.

Itll be fine. We only need kyrie for half of the playoff games anyways. As long as harden and kd are healthy kyrie can play away games.

It will bring me great joy that kyrie will lose millions this season

[MTJazzv3]

As a Jazz fan where all is harmonious all I can do is laugh.

[DaddyCool19]

Don't you guys have a, if you had Covid in the 6 months and recovered, you are free to do what you want for 6 months. You don't need to get the vac or tested in that time window.

We have that rule here in Germany.