SGA will be TOP 10 Player in 3 years. (Before 2024/25 Season)

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Will SGA be top 10 player in the league by the start of 2024/25 season

Poll ended at Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:43 pm

Yes, one of most underrated players in league. Data and film shows his upward trajectory towards SUPERSTARDOM
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No, OKC is going to be terrible for next few years. SGA is #2 star, not #1
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Post#21 » by antonac » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:01 pm

the thing is, saying he'll be top 10 in 3 years is pretty uncontroversial because it's actually largely meaningless.

a player that's around top 10 will not lead a team anywhere near the finals, it's clearly sitting on the fence a bit to put him in this range as it's only the top 4 or 5 that matter. And he'll be be 26, so if he's not hitting that level then he probably never will.

In all honesty this is about the right range for him, it's just OKC with SGA as their best player in 3 years probably exits in the 1st round. nothing to get excited about.
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Post#22 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:03 pm

Gramercy Riffs wrote:Jokic, Giannis, Curry, Harden, Lebron, KD, Kawhi, Doncic, Embiid, Butler, Lillard, Trae, Beal, Tatum, PG, Mitchell, Bam, Gobert, AD, KAT are 20 players I'd say are better than SGA. He's probably in my next 5 along with Randle, Sabonis, Fox, Westbrook.


Kawhi's body isn't likely to hold up at this level for 3 more years sadly.
LeBron will be what 39? No dude, just stop.
Lillard is on the other side of 30 and unlikely to continue.
PG is a great player, but will be 34 and likely not top 10.
Mitchell even now isn't much better and at current pace can easily be surpassed by SGA.
Bam had one amazing year, followed by a way lesser year and as a guy who can't be a go to player, have issues with this pick.
AD is injury prone as hell and had a meh year following a dominant one. Who knows in 3 years.
KAT is extremely talented but mentally weak.
Curry will be like 37.
KD will also be 37 with an Achilles issue potentially creeping up.
Butler?


The only guys I'd say are "locks" so to speak to be better than SGA in 3 years are

Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Jokic

Then he will fight with the likes of Beal, Tatum, Harden, Mitchell etc for the tier 2. Not quite megastar, best all time at their position level that the 4 I said above are, but could still be a perennial star, HOF caliber type.
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Re: SGA will be TOP 10 Player in 3 years. (Before 2024/25 Season) 

Post#23 » by Gramercy Riffs » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:05 pm

OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
Gramercy Riffs wrote:Jokic, Giannis, Curry, Harden, Lebron, KD, Kawhi, Doncic, Embiid, Butler, Lillard, Trae, Beal, Tatum, PG, Mitchell, Bam, Gobert, AD, KAT are 20 players I'd say are better than SGA. He's probably in my next 5 along with Randle, Sabonis, Fox, Westbrook.


Kawhi's body isn't likely to hold up at this level for 3 more years sadly.
LeBron will be what 39? No dude, just stop.
Lillard is on the other side of 30 and unlikely to continue.
PG is a great player, but will be 34 and likely not top 10.
Mitchell even now isn't much better and at current pace can easily be surpassed by SGA.
Bam had one amazing year, followed by a way lesser year and as a guy who can't be a go to player, have issues with this pick.
AD is injury prone as hell and had a meh year following a dominant one. Who knows in 3 years.
KAT is extremely talented but mentally weak.
Curry will be like 37.
KD will also be 37 with an Achilles issue potentially creeping up.
Butler?


The only guys I'd say are "locks" so to speak to be better than SGA in 3 years are

Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Jokic

Then he will fight with the likes of Beal, Tatum, Harden, Mitchell etc for the tier 2. Not quite megastar, best all time at their position level that the 4 I said above are, but could still be a perennial star, HOF caliber type.


I should have clarified, you said he was currently a top 20 player and that's what I was responding to.
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Re: SGA will be TOP 10 Player in 3 years. (Before 2024/25 Season) 

Post#24 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:08 pm

Gramercy Riffs wrote:
OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
Gramercy Riffs wrote:Jokic, Giannis, Curry, Harden, Lebron, KD, Kawhi, Doncic, Embiid, Butler, Lillard, Trae, Beal, Tatum, PG, Mitchell, Bam, Gobert, AD, KAT are 20 players I'd say are better than SGA. He's probably in my next 5 along with Randle, Sabonis, Fox, Westbrook.


Kawhi's body isn't likely to hold up at this level for 3 more years sadly.
LeBron will be what 39? No dude, just stop.
Lillard is on the other side of 30 and unlikely to continue.
PG is a great player, but will be 34 and likely not top 10.
Mitchell even now isn't much better and at current pace can easily be surpassed by SGA.
Bam had one amazing year, followed by a way lesser year and as a guy who can't be a go to player, have issues with this pick.
AD is injury prone as hell and had a meh year following a dominant one. Who knows in 3 years.
KAT is extremely talented but mentally weak.
Curry will be like 37.
KD will also be 37 with an Achilles issue potentially creeping up.
Butler?


The only guys I'd say are "locks" so to speak to be better than SGA in 3 years are

Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Jokic

Then he will fight with the likes of Beal, Tatum, Harden, Mitchell etc for the tier 2. Not quite megastar, best all time at their position level that the 4 I said above are, but could still be a perennial star, HOF caliber type.


I should have clarified, you said he was currently a top 20 player and that's what I was responding to.


Ah I misread, sorry. I thought u meant in 3 years that he has no shot at top 10 because of this list. That was my bad.
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Post#25 » by Dez » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:21 pm

My God do people overrate SGA.
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Post#26 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:27 pm

Dez wrote:My God do people overrate SGA.




Watch some film guy.
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Post#27 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:37 pm



Great breakdown of how SGA may be the most UNDERRATED player in the NBA and how rare his 3rd season, age 22-23 impact is. SGA played with the 29th best team in the NBA spacing wise and 30th ranked 3 point shooting team. 87% scoring is unassisted.

He’s statistically the 2nd most clutch scorer in the NBA too, neck and neck with Damian Lillard, Kyrie in the clutch.

He’s also 8th in the NBA in being double teamed to pair with that **** spacing and having to create close to 90% of his own offense... only Curry played with worse spacing among stars.
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Post#28 » by _qubik » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:42 pm

Has the talent and production, will be Devin Booker 2.0 story until his team start winning more games with him as their best player. I'm high on him and like a lot how he produces, he got nice numbers and efficiency without much help, he has the tools to be a better defender and should keep improving as a playmaker going forward (and having better teamates). Special dude anyway
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Post#29 » by Dez » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:10 pm

OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
Dez wrote:My God do people overrate SGA.




Watch some film guy.


Can do a highlights package that makes any player look amazing.

He's good but he's not anywhere near as good as you try to make him out to be.
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Post#30 » by JN61 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:26 pm

He has limited potential. He is solid but that solidness limits him. He doesn't have vision of the great PGs and he doesn't have scoring ability of top end scorers. He is solid 2nd best player and 3rd best player on the championship or bust style of the team.
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Post#31 » by hauntedcomputer » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:36 pm

OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
Watch some film guy.


Yes, let's watch nothing but highlights to form opinions.

I go with "wildly overrated guy who hasn't made his team better." Still, in the NBA, that may be good enough for top-30ish.
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Post#32 » by stillgotgame » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:38 pm

Do you think he’ll play more than 40-50 games this year? If they’re full tank mode again he’s going to be sitting out a lot.
Nowhere close to the Top #25 board when voted on during the offseason. Maybe top 30-35 player.
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Post#33 » by hauntedcomputer » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:41 pm

The entire case for him is always "He's a great player who has to do everything on bad teams." Well, why do his teams stay so bad if he's so great?
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Post#34 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:47 pm

hauntedcomputer wrote:The entire case for him is always "He's a great player who has to do everything on bad teams." Well, why do his teams stay so bad if he's so great?


Not an argument. They made the playoffs and were a Cinderella team the year before. Last year they were 17-21 when they shut him down. Teams don’t “stay bad” because last year was his age 22 season and the first year his team didn’t win, part of which was because they shut him down.. Then you had his rookie year where he had good impact compared to his draft position and came up with big plays in the playoffs vs the Warriors.

So basically he’s made the playoffs two years not being the best player, then missed it when his team was decimated by injuries but put up 24/5/5 on 50/40/80+ shooting among the other things I told you like being elite on drives, good at getting to the line, elite in iso, 42% from 3.... scoring 87% unassisted with 28% usage on the 2nd worst spaced team in the NBA.

I think your narrative is a bit jaded
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Post#35 » by BugginOut » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:20 pm

All this hype off 35 games on a tanking team……
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Post#36 » by bstein14 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:35 pm

i like him a lot, but most top 10 players are leading teams to playoff wins. OKC will likely still be really young at that point. It would be like asking if Zion is a top 10 player right now. he is a dominant force but unless his team starts winning he can put up great efficient stats and not be viewed as a top 10 guy.
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Post#37 » by Optms » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:10 am

Ah, its possible.

I misread and thought OP meant "top 3" but top 10 is definitely a realistic ceiling for him. He's pretty good.
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Post#38 » by TheRealKaboom » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:16 am

He'll never be a good/great player until he learns how to defend. 0.8 steals per game last year with the massive amount of minutes he played is embarrassingly bad for a guard. Shocking to the conscience bad.

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Post#39 » by jehosafats » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:24 am

Strange to see him mentioned alongside some of the best guards. I can't recall ever seeing him play.
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Post#40 » by baldur » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:40 am

What has he done so far apart from pretending to be injured to help OKC's disgraceful tanking seasons?

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