DeMar DeRozan will be an eventual HOF’er

[XblueworldX]

Sure, why not. It's basketball HOF where everyone is welcome.

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[a8bil]

DeRozan making the HOF would be a joke, IMO. He made 4 AS appearances because he played in a weak Eastern Conference. He likely would not have sniffed the AS roster had he played in the Western conference all those years. By pretty much every metric he's only slightly better than CJ Mccullom, who has never been voted into the AS game. DeRozan is not and has never been an HOF caliber player.

[Danny1616]

It depends how much longer he can play at a high level.

Right now he is 84th in the all-time NBA scoring list at 17,751.

If he gets to 20,000 points that will put him top 50 all time in scoring which is a pretty impressive feat. Pretty much every player in the top 50 list has made it.

Let's say he plays 3 more seasons and averages 15 points a game. That gives him 3600 more points and puts him at 21,000. That would put him in the top 40 or so of all time in scoring and should help him edge into the hall of fame.

Given his age, his craftiness and sustainability I can see Derozan finishing in the top 20-30 in scoring which will make it easy for him to get to the hall of fame.

[Danny1616]

DeRozan making the HOF would be a joke, IMO. He made 4 AS appearances because he played in a weak Eastern Conference. He likely would not have sniffed the AS roster had he played in the Western conference all those years. By pretty much every metric he's only slightly better than CJ Mccullom, who has never been voted into the AS game. DeRozan is not and has never been an HOF caliber player.

He currently has 17,500 points. If he finishes with 20,000+ and is top 50 all time in scoring, it makes it hard to keep him off historically.

[bbalnation]

DeRozan making the HOF would be a joke, IMO. He made 4 AS appearances because he played in a weak Eastern Conference. He likely would not have sniffed the AS roster had he played in the Western conference all those years. He's not and has never been an HOF caliber player.

You're not wrong if you're saying conferences being split isn't a fair way to assess talent. But he's not the only allstar in a weaker East.

In the West, he adapted, and carried a really weak Spurs team on his back to 8th/9th seeds when they had no business being there imo.

He had a lot of playoff appearances during his Raptor days, and was a foundational part of building the current successful Masai-led culture we see today. He had a flawed game, but made the most of it, and almost made it to the Finals, if it hadn't been for that Lebron guy (at least 2-3 times). The Stackhouse and Redd comparisons are off base... Demars a team guy to me. He makes winning plays offensively. Defensively... eh. Diff story.

Allstar appearances as a way to judge players value historically is only one, incomplete way to go.

[jokeboy86]

No question if we're talking about the Canada sports HOF. Can't believe Norm Baker is the only one still

This is a strange comment to me on two levels. One, he is born/raised in Compton and two, how is Steve Nash not in the Canadian sports HOF??

If Damon Allen can get in then so can DeRozan(even w/o any titles). And I stand corrected Nash got in this year.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Building the culture of a team that had one contending/chamnpionship season, which was attained in a one sided deal when he left, isn't a big selling point to me personally. Raptors player development, scouting and coaching isn't really coming from derozan. He's also from a previous era of the team...more of a duane casey/colangelo guy i would say.

I mean even if you really believe such a narrative or love derozan or something its really hard to argue HOF because a guy played ona team that eventually was built towards a championship when he left. This is not an argument for HOFers, even nba HOFers where standards are considered low. I can see him getting a lot of career points and hanging on for a while...though its hard with no outside shot, and never being a defender.

[a8bil]

DeRozan making the HOF would be a joke, IMO. He made 4 AS appearances because he played in a weak Eastern Conference. He likely would not have sniffed the AS roster had he played in the Western conference all those years. By pretty much every metric he's only slightly better than CJ Mccullom, who has never been voted into the AS game. DeRozan is not and has never been an HOF caliber player.

He currently has 17,500 points. If he finishes with 20,000+ and is top 50 all time in scoring, it makes it hard to keep him off historically.

That's an interesting observation. There's only a handful of players who have gone over 20k points who are HOF eligible but not in the HOF (Tom Chambers, Antawn Jamison). But look just under 20k and you have a bunch of guys who are not, and never should be in the HOF -- Clifford Robinson, Walter Davis, Terry Cummings, Crawford, Eddie Johnson, Dale Ellis... . In my view, DeRozan fits into this group. A good solid career, but nothing that screams special.

[skones]

His peak isn't there. His efficiency doesn't stand out. The accolades aren't there. There's just no reason to have this discussion. Volume alone shouldn't get you into the Hall.

[Slim Charlez]

No question if we're talking about the Canada sports HOF. Can't believe Norm Baker is the only one still

Raptors fans seem to absolutely despise him as much as analytics nerds do though. Good dude and has now become underrated but he's the definition of borderline HOF.

[BoatsNZones]

No question if we're talking about the Canada sports HOF. Can't believe Norm Baker is the only one still

This is a strange comment to me on two levels. One, he is born/raised in Compton and two, how is Steve Nash not in the Canadian sports HOF??

If Damon Allen can get in then so can DeRozan(even w/o any titles). And I stand corrected Nash got in this year.

Point taken on him not being Canadian (I would have thought that was a prereq for a National HOF).

But just now looking up Damon Allen's career there, and it looks as if he was one of the greatest QB's in the CFL's history (a career that spanned over two decades in an actual Canadian league). He also made Canada his home and continued to live/work there after retirement.

To me the two don't seem very comparable (that said, I know nothing about the Canadian HOF obviously).

[Bruin]

Love Demar but don’t think he gets in. If he wins a ring then it becomes close

[dhsilv2]

God I hope not. He should have to pay to even go in the hall.

[Jadoogar]

Basically everyone agreed LMA didn't deserve the HoF and demar has a worse resume, so no he shouldn't be a HoFer

[blueNorange]

derozan has zero shot of being a hall of famer.

[ImSlower]

I'm all for it. If DDR becomes a HOFer, it will mean that he's been stunningly successful in Chicago, because I think he needs to more rings and two or three more ASG's to make it.

I think it would be pretty shocking if he made any more ASG's, and in my opinion, the closest he'll get to winning a hypothetical championship in Chicago would be if he becomes the expiring contract that makes a trade for a Tier 1 star possible.

[Doctor MJ]

…or will he be treated like Michael Redd?

He’s a HOFer in my books.

I'll put it this way:

I think his odds were a lot better before Toronto traded him. I think at that point he was probably more likely to make the Hall than Lowry, and I believe there was and is a pull to making sure the 2010s Raptors are represented by a player. But that player will now be Lowry.

This isn't to say DeRozan couldn't get there still, but it will require something noteworthy occurring in Chicago.

[Slim Charlez]

Basically everyone agreed LMA didn't deserve the HoF and demar has a worse resume, so no he shouldn't be a HoFer

Everyone???? If Bosh is in the HOF thanks to lebron and weak Eastern conference all star appearances why wouldn't a better player with a better individual resume like LMA be a shoe in? LMA is 100% a hall of famer

[Doctor MJ]

He currently has 17,500 points. If he finishes with 20,000+ and is top 50 all time in scoring, it makes it hard to keep him off historically.

The baseball world thinks like this, I don't think the basketball world does.

It's not just a predilection toward peak vs longevity, it's also about the fact that basketball numbers are so big that we don't bother to remember them. I mean, can you tell me how many points the scoring leader scored last year? How about in any season? Mostly, we just don't talk about these things.

This isn't to say that people don't pay attention to guys who own career records, but just being somewhere on the list, I'm skeptical. Yes, most of the guys on said list are in the Hall...but I'd venture to say that all of them had specific accomplishments that were seen as more significant than DeRozan does.

[Doctor MJ]

Basically everyone agreed LMA didn't deserve the HoF and demar has a worse resume, so no he shouldn't be a HoFer

Everyone???? If Bosh is in the HOF thanks to lebron and weak Eastern conference all star appearances why wouldn't a better player with a better individual resume like LMA be a shoe in? LMA is 100% a hall of famer

I'd agree with you that he might get in the Hall, but:

1. Bosh is in the Hall because of his role on the Heatles. Yes his time in Toronto was important too, but if all Bosh did was was play for teams who never got there, there'd be no reason to expect him in the Hall.

2. I'm more impressed by what Bosh demonstrated than Aldridge. I don't think you win a title with a big man who insists on volume scoring from mid-range. Bosh adapting to become more of a (3-point shooting) role player on offense demonstrated his ability to play offensively with 2 superior offensive players - which is really what Aldridge needed to do - and Bosh's defensive play on those Heatles was HUGE.