Ceiling of Evan Mobley

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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#21 » by Bornstellar » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:48 pm

sisibilio wrote:Uberathletic Duncan with 3 pt range.

That sounds like a GOAT level player. Not sure Mobley has THAT kind of potential
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Post#22 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:50 pm

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Post#23 » by Roger Murdock » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:51 pm

He’s going to win DPoY this year
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Post#24 » by BostonCouchGM » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:52 pm

I think once he bulks up he can be akin to AD which is a top 5-10 NBA player. But he has to put on a good 40-50 lbs of muscle over the next few seasons. We have to see if he's willing to get on the sauce and do so or if he's happy being what he is which is Bosh 2.0
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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#25 » by MotownMadness » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:54 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:He’s going to win DPoY this year

That would be awesome but I'm sure he'll slow down a bit here eventually. It's still so early and players go on 5 game streaks often. I'm rooting for it though.
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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#26 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:54 pm

NRSV wrote:This sounds kind of crazy, but he plays how I imagine Bill Russell played, as described by @DCasey91

The technical soundness on defense, anchoring the paint with the fluidity to come out to the perimeter and guard PGs. Positional awareness and the fact that he’s so disciplined with his hands and doesn’t commit touch fouls in the paint.

The physicality will come with time as he gains good weight. He isn’t shying away now though.


I was thinking about making a post like this the other day for all the people who ask what Russell would be like in today's game. People will say that Russell couldn't shoot but in today's league he probably also starts playing and shooting at a much younger age and practices it more compared to when he was winning titles every year by being the player he was.
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Post#27 » by pipfan » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:57 pm

I also thought he was the best prospect in the draft. If I were Clev, I would trade Sexton, or move him to 6th man
Garland/Sexton
Okoro/Sexton
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Mobley
Allen

Love, Sexton, Cedi main bench pieces for now. Draft the best wing available next summer
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Post#28 » by DCasey91 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:02 pm

What should be talked right now is where he ranks on defense league wide.

Take rep aside and actually look at the impact.

Say for example so far performing this year it’s:

Gobert
Butler
Giannis
Embiid
Green
Davis

After that is Mobley in the conversation? That’s such high praise for a rookie big who hasn’t physically matured yet, but it’s very valid based on his impact.
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Post#29 » by MotownMadness » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:11 pm

DCasey91 wrote:What should be talked right now is where he ranks on defense league wide.

Take rep aside and actually look at the impact.

Say for example so far performing this year it’s:

Gobert
Butler
Giannis
Embiid
Green
Davis

After that is Mobley in the conversation? That’s such high praise for a rookie big who hasn’t physically matured yet, but it’s very valid based on his impact.

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Post#30 » by HiRez » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:13 pm

Dude's hands are ridiculous, he was fully extended and even LeBron couldn't rip the ball out. Good or bad hands are the first thing I look at in a big and he's got really good mitts.
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Post#31 » by NRSV » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:26 pm

HiRez wrote:Dude's hands are ridiculous, he was fully extended and even LeBron couldn't rip the ball out. Good or bad hands are the first thing I look at in a big and he's got really good mitts.

His hands are big and he's disciplined and dexterous with both. You either have that when you reach the NBA or you don't. Here's a clip of him finishing with his left after contact. Fully palming the ball.

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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#32 » by homecourtloss » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:26 pm

Jadoogar wrote:Anthony Davis


Not sure he can be as good offensively (specifically scoring) as a locked in Davis, but he looks to be a better passer with very good instincts unlike AD, and in is first few games of his career, he’s been a better defender than AD has been in Los Angeles sans the bubble. Davis has not been a defensive anchor (take a look at the Lakers defense the last three years with AD on court and AD off court or look to New Orleans days) but Mobley already shows that (rim protection, defensive reads, Cavs 10 points per 100 possessions better defensively with him on court) and looks to be a perennial DPOY candidate.

Almost every great big man defender is a big plus on that and from day one: Gobert, Embiid, Mourning, Ewing, Olajuwon, Mutombo, Eaton, Kareem, Russell, Wallace, etc., etc. This is why I was shocked that the Warriors didn’t trade Wiseman when his stock was still high because Wiseman, unlike Mobley, does not read the defense well and is always a half step late and does not contest shots the same way as a rookie Mobley does.

DCasey91 wrote:What should be talked right now is where he ranks on defense league wide.

Take rep aside and actually look at the impact.

Say for example so far performing this year it’s:

Gobert
Butler
Giannis
Embiid
Green
Davis

After that is Mobley in the conversation? That’s such high praise for a rookie big who hasn’t physically matured yet, but it’s very valid based on his impact.


Davis hasn’t done much defensively in Los Angeles outside the bubble. Now, he could if he extended himself, but he wasn’t a defensive difference maker last year for the lakers and is this year so far.
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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#33 » by DCasey91 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:26 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:What should be talked right now is where he ranks on defense league wide.

Take rep aside and actually look at the impact.

Say for example so far performing this year it’s:

Gobert
Butler
Giannis
Embiid
Green
Davis

After that is Mobley in the conversation? That’s such high praise for a rookie big who hasn’t physically matured yet, but it’s very valid based on his impact.

Bam


Oh yes thanks, that’s an esteem list to be on to me.
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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#34 » by ForeverTFC » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:41 pm

sisibilio wrote:Uberathletic Duncan with 3 pt range.


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Post#35 » by Up-And-Coming » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:45 pm

Evan Mobley actually has the potential to be the next AD. Cleveland got a potential superstar in Mobley and a potential All-Star in Sexton. I know most people here like Garland better as he's the better fit and I definitely see his potential but Sexton so far has shown more & he's still only 22. Garland's passing ability is obviously better but I feel like RealGM loves to poo-poo on Sexton even though he's had a solid start to his young career.
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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#36 » by NRSV » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:46 pm

Mobley is "raw" but "raw" is relative. Mobley doesn't hesitate to shoot 3s or drive. He's just not called on often to do so. I'm sure that will change as the roster changes in Cleveland and he matures. Mobley's "raw" is light years ahead of Wiseman and guys like that who have no real foundational skills at real basketball speed. He has a real chance at becoming a bonafide wing if that's what he needs to do on the offensive end. Though it may take a few years. Currently, he's a rim running face up big. Time will tell if he ever develops NBA level post skills. But there's signs that he's a real perimeter threat sooner than later.

Fake pass to pull up jumper.
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Re: Ceiling of Evan Mobley 

Post#37 » by Upperclass » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:49 pm

He's not AD.. Davis plays like a huge guard and has touch that NOONE else has.. Imo Mobley is Marcus Camby.. will he better.. probably since it's a different game. But Camby would be a top 5-7 big in this NBA too
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Post#38 » by XTC » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:50 pm

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Post#39 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:19 pm

Upperclass wrote:He's not AD.. Davis plays like a huge guard and has touch that NOONE else has.. Imo Mobley is Marcus Camby.. will he better.. probably since it's a different game. But Camby would be a top 5-7 big in this NBA too


It's not wrong to say he could be better than AD imo. AD for all his offensive ability and pretty numbers was never really considered a top 5 player on a regular basis. Whether due to injuries or getting stuck on bad teams and I'd also say never became the defensive player people thought he would be outside of the bubble. Mobley could become better imo. Even if his offensive game isn't quite as good.
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Post#40 » by bbms » Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:35 pm

KG with worse vision and playmaking skills.

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