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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#21 » by art_tatum » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:00 am

Nothing. Warriors are spoiled. They got
Poole/moody/kuminga/wiseman getting into their early primes right when curry/Klay/green fall off.

Poole already has panned out and i believe in kuminga/wiseman to be really good to excellent. Moody will be a great role playing 2guard.
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#22 » by cpower » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:02 am

art_tatum wrote:Nothing. Warriors are spoiled. They got
Poole/moody/kuminga/wiseman getting into their early primes right when curry/Klay/green fall off.

Poole already has panned out and i believe in kuminga/wiseman to be really good to excellent. Moody will be a great role playing 2guard.

Poole and wiseman look like low iq basketball players and the others are barely playing... you talk like we have a whole bundle of young all stars wtf...
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#23 » by Gramercy Riffs » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:04 am

cpower wrote:
art_tatum wrote:Nothing. Warriors are spoiled. They got
Poole/moody/kuminga/wiseman getting into their early primes right when curry/Klay/green fall off.

Poole already has panned out and i believe in kuminga/wiseman to be really good to excellent. Moody will be a great role playing 2guard.

Poole and wiseman look like low iq basketball players and the others are barely playing... you talk like we have a whole bundle of young all stars wtf...


What are you talking about? Poole is a very high IQ player, you can't run Kerr's system without being smart. For Poole to be in this position as the main creator/shot maker off the bench in his 3rd season is remarkable. Most youngsters aren't playable in Kerr's system for years.

It's also a testament to the IQ of the rapidly improving Kuminga. We have a whole bundle of young future all stars.
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#24 » by cpower » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:20 am

Gramercy Riffs wrote:
cpower wrote:
art_tatum wrote:Nothing. Warriors are spoiled. They got
Poole/moody/kuminga/wiseman getting into their early primes right when curry/Klay/green fall off.

Poole already has panned out and i believe in kuminga/wiseman to be really good to excellent. Moody will be a great role playing 2guard.

Poole and wiseman look like low iq basketball players and the others are barely playing... you talk like we have a whole bundle of young all stars wtf...


What are you talking about? Poole is a very high IQ player, you can't run Kerr's system without being smart. For Poole to be in this position as the main creator/shot maker off the bench in his 3rd season is remarkable. Most youngsters aren't playable in Kerr's system for years.

It's also a testament to the IQ of the rapidly improving Kuminga. We have a whole bundle of young future all stars.

Poole's poor shot selection is a testment to his basketball IQ for sure, unless you are not watching the same game. Also future all stars dont grow on trees..i am pretty certain nobody will be future all stars from our team, Poole has a long shot and Kuminga has a long long shot thats about it.
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#25 » by art_tatum » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:30 am

cpower wrote:
art_tatum wrote:Nothing. Warriors are spoiled. They got
Poole/moody/kuminga/wiseman getting into their early primes right when curry/Klay/green fall off.

Poole already has panned out and i believe in kuminga/wiseman to be really good to excellent. Moody will be a great role playing 2guard.

Poole and wiseman look like low iq basketball players and the others are barely playing... you talk like we have a whole bundle of young all stars wtf...


I don't watch the warriors as much as dubs fans, but I've followed wiseman since hs so i believe in him. Still a project
Kuminga from what Ive seen last year in the hleague has slot of raw talent, and his passing is ahead of his age/position. He's a project for sure.
Pooles shots are curry/Klay shot selections. He's gotten better every year due to his drive and practice. He's gotta shoot those shots to be better. I think it says alot that he rises up to the challenge of curry/Klay.

Kerr seems to trust him enough, and of wiseman to be starting him. Kuminga won't get consistent mins until next year so we will see.
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#26 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:42 am

Warriors are better because Wiseman isn’t playing. Watch a Warriors game, they’re dominating right now because of their defense. They’re a defense first team. They flat out hound people on that end. Looney may not be a great player, but he’s a smart defensive player and has good positioning.

Wiseman on the other hand is a horrible defender. A horrible defensive 5 can crater a good defensive lineup. He should probably only get 10-12 minutes a game and minutes during blow outs.

Kuminga should be the young guy they try to slowly get into the rotation. Long, strong, athletic wing who when dialed in on the defensive end is already a guy that can make an impact. He is much more of a GS kind of player.
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#27 » by cpower » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:44 am

art_tatum wrote:
cpower wrote:
art_tatum wrote:Nothing. Warriors are spoiled. They got
Poole/moody/kuminga/wiseman getting into their early primes right when curry/Klay/green fall off.

Poole already has panned out and i believe in kuminga/wiseman to be really good to excellent. Moody will be a great role playing 2guard.

Poole and wiseman look like low iq basketball players and the others are barely playing... you talk like we have a whole bundle of young all stars wtf...


I don't watch the warriors as much as dubs fans, but I've followed wiseman since hs so i believe in him. Still a project
Kuminga from what Ive seen last year in the hleague has slot of raw talent, and his passing is ahead of his age/position. He's a project for sure.
Pooles shots are curry/Klay shot selections. He's gotten better every year due to his drive and practice. He's gotta shoot those shots to be better. I think it says alot that he rises up to the challenge of curry/Klay.

Kerr seems to trust him enough, and of wiseman to be starting him. Kuminga won't get consistent mins until next year so we will see.

Kerr is using Pooles as decoy. He wants the team to think Poole is the 2nd guy but its our three point shooting the best weapon in our offense. Porter, Lee, Bjelica are all shooting better than 43% and make us offense work..
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Re: whats wrong with Wiseman 

Post#28 » by floppymoose » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:45 am

formula 400 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:He should take his time anyway. He can’t guard joker ad or ayton yet, so there’s really not really a determining factor in their title odds this year. Him kuminga and moody get to undergo the best internship in America


where was this impressive internship in all of the Americas last year?


He had it, he just did miserably. GS looking good this season so he's going to be a on a short leash, which is fine. He needs to come along slowly. He should probably play some games in Santa Cruz.

The Warriors leave for a four-game road trip on Sunday, and Wiseman will not be with the team. Instead, he'll stay behind in order to continue individual work and possibly scrimmage with the Warriors' G League affiliate, the Santa Cruz Warriors. Once the Warriors get back in town, that's when we could see Wiseman back on the court.

"It's been an incremental approach, so there hasn't been that "ah-ha" moment where he just took this leap," Warriors head coach Steve Kerr said. "We've been purposely deliberate the last couple of months and just slowly ramping things up. He's moving well and he's engaged in a lot of drill work in practice and doing 5-on-0 stuff. He's getting a lot of work in and he's feeling good."

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