Cade Cunningham 25/8/8

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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#21 » by KembaWalker » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:50 pm

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draftnightsuit wrote:What’s his ceiling? I’d say Brandon Roy.


Why not current Luka? Or maybe Lamelo?
He looks like a worse playmaker and scorer, but he's just started, and he was projected to be a version of them.
I mean, the big good rebounder passer-scorer doitall PG.


Cade is not as ball dominant as either Luka or LaMelo. He can play off the ball and will also likely be a better/more efficient scorer than either.

He’s a playmaking 2, like Brandon Roy or Devin Booker with better passing.


Cade and LaMelo have basically the exact same usage rate, LaMelo is just much better at basketball so he puts up much better numbers
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#22 » by draftnightsuit » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:51 pm

Lalouie wrote:
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RiRuHoops wrote:I always love highlights on a player whose team is trailing by 20-30 points thru out the game.


To be fair, he plays for the Pistons.


translation...SOMEBODY has to put up numbers if a team is cr@p. it's not like detroit is only going to score 50ppg


Pistons are 3-5 with Cade, 0-5 without him. He’s contributing to winning.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#23 » by Woodsanity » Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:58 pm

Need to see more to draw any conclusions. So far he has had a very bad season. He has played better lately but his abysmal games earlier really hurt.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#24 » by 7r5ur » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:09 pm

Woodsanity wrote:Need to see more to draw any conclusions. So far he has had a very bad season. He has played better lately but his abysmal games earlier really hurt.


It's almost like reading into the first 3 games where the guy hadn't played actual basketball since summer league or even practiced with his teammates is a very dumb idea. People thought a guy who shot 40% from 3 in college and 50% in summer league was suddenly going to be the worst 3-point shooter in the league I guess after he started 1-for-21. Since he got his legs back and a few practices he's been as advertised, shooting over 40% on his last 37 3FG attempts (7+ per game).

Remove the first 3 horrible shooting games and he's at 16ppg, 5rpg, 4apg, 1.2spg (44% FG, 40% 3FG) with good defense and many clutch plays in that 5 game span. With his only significant knock in that period being 4TO's. Only those with absurd expectations would call that very bad for a rookie just coming into the league.

Obviously 8 games or 20 games isn't telling the story. Hell, even 82. I recall Tyreke Evans winning ROY over James Harden and Steph Curry.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#25 » by draftnightsuit » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:09 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
User_friendly wrote:Why not current Luka? Or maybe Lamelo?
He looks like a worse playmaker and scorer, but he's just started, and he was projected to be a version of them.
I mean, the big good rebounder passer-scorer doitall PG.


Cade is not as ball dominant as either Luka or LaMelo. He can play off the ball and will also likely be a better/more efficient scorer than either.

He’s a playmaking 2, like Brandon Roy or Devin Booker with better passing.


Cade and LaMelo have basically the exact same usage rate, LaMelo is just much better at basketball so he puts up much better numbers


Go ahead and tell me how many 25/8/8 games LaMelo had in his rookie season. Don’t worry I’ll wait.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#26 » by KembaWalker » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:25 pm

draftnightsuit wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
Cade is not as ball dominant as either Luka or LaMelo. He can play off the ball and will also likely be a better/more efficient scorer than either.

He’s a playmaking 2, like Brandon Roy or Devin Booker with better passing.


Cade and LaMelo have basically the exact same usage rate, LaMelo is just much better at basketball so he puts up much better numbers


Go ahead and tell me how many 25/8/8 games LaMelo had in his rookie season. Don’t worry I’ll wait.


what a strangely unrelated counterpoint
they are the same age anyway
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#27 » by Dez » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:36 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
Maxthirty wrote:
To be fair, he plays for the Pistons.


translation...SOMEBODY has to put up numbers if a team is cr@p. it's not like detroit is only going to score 50ppg


And yet, and yet, and yet he's managed to fail to put up numbers several times this year thus far!


Rookie not perfect? Shocking, utterly shocking.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#28 » by Dez » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:37 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
User_friendly wrote:Why not current Luka? Or maybe Lamelo?
He looks like a worse playmaker and scorer, but he's just started, and he was projected to be a version of them.
I mean, the big good rebounder passer-scorer doitall PG.


Cade is not as ball dominant as either Luka or LaMelo. He can play off the ball and will also likely be a better/more efficient scorer than either.

He’s a playmaking 2, like Brandon Roy or Devin Booker with better passing.


Cade and LaMelo have basically the exact same usage rate, LaMelo is just much better at basketball so he puts up much better numbers


Bizarre comparison given the experience difference.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#29 » by dc » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:38 pm

Cade is going to be very good. Guy is basically an Allan Houston level shooter (people forget how good a shooter that guy was) to go along with PG/playmaking ability.

If he can be a 40% 3 pt shooter to go along with good playmaking and clutch shotmaking, that's a legit franchise player.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#30 » by KembaWalker » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:42 pm

Dez wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
Cade is not as ball dominant as either Luka or LaMelo. He can play off the ball and will also likely be a better/more efficient scorer than either.

He’s a playmaking 2, like Brandon Roy or Devin Booker with better passing.


Cade and LaMelo have basically the exact same usage rate, LaMelo is just much better at basketball so he puts up much better numbers


Bizarre comparison given the experience difference.


I didn't compare them first, so its bizarre that you are even posting this
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#31 » by MrBigShot » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:01 am

Couldn't get a triple double in his 8th game? Kid's a 6'2 scrub
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#32 » by DroseReturnChi » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:24 am

cade is literally the ultimate boom or bust guy like fultz. not a good thing because hes ceiling isnt highest.
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Re: Cade Cunningham 25/8/8 

Post#33 » by 7r5ur » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:18 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:cade is literally the ultimate boom or bust guy like fultz. not a good thing because hes ceiling isnt highest.


Cade is already better in his 8th NBA game than Fultz in his 4th year in the league. And I don't see how a guy who is at minimum solid/good at just about everything on an NBA floor as a rookie could be considered boom or bust. Boom or bust is like Jonathan Kuminga. Someone who is basically all potential.

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