Brandon Jennings: "It’s easier to be KD, Bron, and etc, You gone need a a lot of training trying be Steph Curry though"

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Re: Brandon Jennings: "It’s easier to be KD, Bron, and etc, You gone need a a lot of training trying be Steph Curry thou 

Post#21 » by theforumblue » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:17 pm

Not at all a controversial statement. Height, strength, athleticism..yeah more you have the easier it is. Doesn't mean you don't work hard, there are plenty of dudes with all those traits that aren't anywhere near KD LeBron level. But it's easier than players that have less. Did KD ever have to worry about quick release? Maybe when he was 6yo?
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Post#22 » by Sedale Threatt » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:17 pm

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Sedale Threatt wrote:If hard work and training is all it took, you'd see lots of Steph Currys. For example, by all accounts Avery Johnson had an insane work ethic, and he wasn't in the same galaxy as a shooter. It's easy to look at freak athletes/specimens and see their gifts, but something like, say, hand-eye coordination doesn't register. Another example, I remember reading an anecdote about Steve Nash that he could pick up his golf clubs after not playing for extended periods and still hit in the low 70s. That's nuts. Many people play their entire lives and don't shoot that well, let alone with little to no practice. So while you obviously have to work your ass off to hone skills like his, it's always seemed pretty obvious that Steph is insanely gifted, to an extent we've never really seen before.



You will see more Stephen Curry soon in the future, lil kids will be growing up shooting threes. Jordan was a prime example of this, it will be the same with Curry.


I am very, very confident we're not going to see anything like Curry any time soon, let alone multiples. He's Babe Ruth. Just like Jordan. How many copies of him did we see? Kobe was a very respectable facsimile. Tracy McGrady on a good day. That's about it.
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Post#24 » by Sedale Threatt » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:24 pm

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Sedale Threatt wrote:If hard work and training is all it took, you'd see lots of Steph Currys. For example, by all accounts Avery Johnson had an insane work ethic, and he wasn't in the same galaxy as a shooter. It's easy to look at freak athletes/specimens and see their gifts, but something like, say, hand-eye coordination doesn't register. Another example, I remember reading an anecdote about Steve Nash that he could pick up his golf clubs after not playing for extended periods and still hit in the low 70s. That's nuts. Many people play their entire lives and don't shoot that well, let alone with little to no practice. So while you obviously have to work your ass off to hone skills like his, it's always seemed pretty obvious that Steph is insanely gifted, to an extent we've never really seen before.


I used to workout with this guy...5'9 about 165 and he could bench 450 all day no issue. He was a weird guy in a lot of ways but he was a lot of fun to workout with. He couldn't squat due to flexibility. He was just a really odd dude. Anyway, he was just gifted AND worked hard. He also enjoyed it....likely because he was good at it.

Genetics are what they are, and there's no question about it, freaks do freak things because they've got freaky genetics. It's easy to see a monster like Lebron or Shaq and think "oh genetics". But Stockton was a freak genetically too. So is Curry. You simply can't work so hard you don't need freak genetics to be the NBA. Hell making a D1 college is pretty much out of the relm of possible for average genetic guys who work themselves to death....but the NBA is complete and utterly impossible. Forget being GOOD in the NBA.


Stockton is another good example. From what I remember reading he had insane cardiovascular capacity, like a human Secretariat. Could almost literally run all night long. And gigantically large hands that allowed him to do whatever he wanted with the ball. Stuff like that doesn't register like being able to jump out of the gym, or even just being born insanely tall and agile like KD. But nobody can convince me that he hasn't worked every bit as hard on his craft as Steph has. He's just too good and too polished.
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Post#25 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:24 pm

Steph has an incredible work ethic. I mean, so do the other guys mentioned, of course. Does genetics play a role, of course, but steph comes into each season in phenomenal shape and all of that is work.
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Post#26 » by blitz41 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:27 pm

Don't buy it, not at the level that steph/durant/lebron/insert mvp is at. There are only 24 hours in a day and at that level I find it impossible to believe any of these greats are practicing and working any less then the others.
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Post#27 » by shoresy69 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:28 pm

Seems unnecessary to call out LeBron and KD in the tweet, and Curry almost definitely has his own version of god given talent that cannot be replicated. But he is probably the best player at 6'3" or shorter in NBA history? I can't think of anyone unless we're going way back to the 60's with Jerry West.
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Post#28 » by MrBigShot » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:31 pm

To an extent he is right, but Curry has a lot of physical gifts that are not as apparent. His flexibility, touch and hand eye coordination are simply not things you can just learn. It's not a coincidence his brother and father are also all time great level 3pt shooters.
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Post#29 » by danvato » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:34 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I would say on a very basic level, ya he’s correct. One is dominant on basically 100% skill base. The other ones have a solid chunk of elite physical gifts playing a part.

So ya when you have less natural physical gifts, you’ll need to work a little harder to equal the guys that have the physical advantage over you.


I don't know, you'd think a guy who's dad and brother was/is in the league has some genetic athleticism, maybe you're all underrating Currys athletic gifts just a bit.
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Post#30 » by azapikoa » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:36 pm

MindState wrote:How many titles would LeBron have if he was 6'3?


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Post#32 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:41 pm

danvato wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I would say on a very basic level, ya he’s correct. One is dominant on basically 100% skill base. The other ones have a solid chunk of elite physical gifts playing a part.

So ya when you have less natural physical gifts, you’ll need to work a little harder to equal the guys that have the physical advantage over you.


I don't know, you'd think a guy who's dad and brother was/is in the league has some genetic athleticism, maybe you're all underrating Currys athletic gifts just a bit.


I’m not saying Curry doesn’t have good athleticism, compared to a normal person. Curry is taller and far more athletic than the average person, so of course he has some athletic advantage over a normal person.

What I’m saying is where does Curry stand compared to other NBA players when it comes to physical advantages. Where does Curry stand when it comes to physical advantages compared to the other elites of the NBA?

All I’m saying is players like LeBron or KD have a bigger physical advantage than Curry. So Curry to equal their impact, needs to be more skilled to close that gap. And I believe that is the main point Jennings is making as well.
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Post#33 » by ShootersShoot » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:42 pm

blitz41 wrote:Don't buy it, not at the level that steph/durant/lebron/insert mvp is at. There are only 24 hours in a day and at that level I find it impossible to believe any of these greats are practicing and working any less then the others.


Not many people in this world can be around nba players and practice on nba courts since childhood ..and can ask one of the better shooters in nba history how to tweak their jumper anytime they want. Also, none of these genetic benefits people talk about would be realized without an incredible work ethic. An argument can be made that steph has an all time great work ethic.
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Post#34 » by magicman1978 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:45 pm

You need to have a lot of training to have the impact of any of those guys - you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that trains harder than those three. All three have certain physical gifts/traits that no amount of training can achieve. But I do believe that a 6'3" player having an impact on the game at the same level of Steph Curry is a bit more difficult.
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Post#35 » by a8bil » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:47 pm

True story: many years ago I had a group of guys visit from Sweden. About half were professional athletes (team handball). The others...computer guys, or whatever. They all wanted to try out baseball, so we took them to a high school practice where my brother played. After practice they all took turns trying to bat against a pitcher throwing about high 70s. Pretty humorous efforts until we got to the chain smoking computer programmer who couldn't have weighed much more than 140 lbs soaking wet. Guy hit every pitch, and knocked a couple almost out of the park. Point is, there is a huge element of genetics in hand eye coordination...sure, hard work is required to make that talent elite, but genetic makeup plays a large part.
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Post#36 » by Kobe187 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:47 pm

There are a handful of guys that were built like LeBron that chose the NFL over the NBA. Randy Moss is probably the most famous player that chose the NFL over the NBA, Jason Williams said Moss is the best basketball player he’s ever played with or against. Easier to be dominate with superior physicality and athleticism.
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Post#38 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:56 pm

Thabo Sefolosha wrote:
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He’s right and that’s not actually a knock on the LeBrons of the world.

It pertains to why I say that we are still a generation removed from seeing what changes Curry wrought on the basketball world.

When we see guys who grew up playing like Curry, that’s when we will really get a sense of how unique Curry’s talent is.


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Post#39 » by Kobe187 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:58 pm

MrBigShot wrote:To an extent he is right, but Curry has a lot of physical gifts that are not as apparent. His flexibility, touch and hand eye coordination are simply not things you can just learn. It's not a coincidence his brother and father are also all time great level 3pt shooters.


Agreed. Unbelievable quickness, great coordination, amazing mobility and agility. A lot of physical gifts that can’t be taught and are simply genetic. Curry has very good athleticism it’s just not as apparent as he doesn’t look like a physical specimen.
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Post#40 » by Peregrine01 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:58 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:If hard work and training is all it took, you'd see lots of Steph Currys. For example, by all accounts Avery Johnson had an insane work ethic, and he wasn't in the same galaxy as a shooter. It's easy to look at freak athletes/specimens and see their gifts, but something like, say, hand-eye coordination doesn't register. Another example, I remember reading an anecdote about Steve Nash that he could pick up his golf clubs after not playing for extended periods and still hit in the low 70s. That's nuts. Many people play their entire lives and don't shoot that well, let alone with little to no practice. So while you obviously have to work your ass off to hone skills like his, it's always seemed pretty obvious that Steph is insanely gifted, to an extent we've never really seen before.


Love Nash and think he's got the GOAT coordination in NBA history next to Steph, but I have to believe that's hyperbole. There are Div 1 college players who can't shoot in the low 70s consistently. It takes in insane amount of reps and practice to even sniff that.

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