Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

[Colbinii]

Please identify where Nikola Vucevic is.

Pretty sure you can map two data points.

Don't underestimate the amount of incompetence in a society.

[TheSuzerain]

Please identify where Nikola Vucevic is.

Pretty sure you can map two data points.

I'll map YOUR data points if you aren't careful.

[WestGOAT]

Really cool work.

I would be really interested to see FGA (or FGA+FTA*0.44) per 100 on the Y-axis rather than Points. I want to know who is shooting, their efficiency and who should be shooting more/less.

I liked the suggestion as this made me curious. So I had a quick look and this is how it looks:


Safe to say in both graphs it's pretty clear that Jordan Clarkson is the chucker of the year so far. He has almost as many TSAper100 as Jokic.

Awesome work!

I think the distribution of shots taken by positions is fascinating in itself. I think the curve shapes speak to how predictable the roles of PG, SG,and C are on modern offenses. It also highlights how unpredictable SF is (and to a lesser extent PF), the disparity could explain why it's such an important position.

It's also interesting that you're getting some splitting in the distribution for ts%. That's kind of weird. All except PG, kind of suggests that assists are having an impact. I'd.hypothesise that if you looked at unassisted ts% that those distributions wouldn't split. Unassisted vs assisted would be interesting.

What program.do you use?

And yeah Clarkson chucks for sure.

Python to collect the data, R to visualize the data and a little bit of Adobe illustrator for the final touches.

[LukaTheGOAT]

I think this shows how outlandish Kareem and Shaq were at their peaks offensively. I mean it is hard to imagine just about anyone in the current NBA being significantly better as a scorer than Jokic right now, but the fact is those 2 look well ahead of him. For example,

Jokic is competing with Giannis for the per possession scoring title. In terms of Inflation Adjusted Pts/75 (adjusted to a 110 league average):

Jokic is at an Inflation Adjusted 30.1 pts per 75 on rTS% of 11.8%. Giannis is at 29.9 pts per 75 on rTS% 4.8%. Durant is putting up 28.9 pts per 75 on rTS% of 6.8% and Steph is at 28.2 pts per 75 (rTS% of 5.2%).

I mean how good would someone need to be, in order to be on Shaq or Kareem's level as a scorer?

[Sakkreth]

Missing Domantas Sabonis on that chart, especially considering where he would be on it.

[WestGOAT]

I think this shows how outlandish Kareem and Shaq were at their peaks offensively. I mean it is hard to imagine just about anyone in the current NBA being significantly better as a scorer than Jokic right now, but the fact is those 2 look well ahead of him. For example,

Jokic is competing with Giannis for the per possession scoring title. In terms of Inflation Adjusted Pts/75 (adjusted to a 110 league average):

Jokic is at an Inflation Adjusted 30.1 pts per 75 on rTS% of 11.8%. Giannis is at 29.9 pts per 75 on rTS% 4.8%. Durant is putting up 28.9 pts per 75 on rTS% of 6.8% and Steph is at 28.2 pts per 75 (rTS% of 5.2%).

I mean how good would someone need to be, in order to be on Shaq or Kareem's level as a scorer?

Thanks for the reply, I think you replied in the wrong thread though .

In the case of Kareem I really think it's also an issue of the competition he faced:

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      Year                Player  Pos  PP100    TS%  PP100Δ   TSΔ  Score
1     1971  Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*    C  33.42  60.58    3.53  2.65   6.18
2     1971            Dave Bing*   PG  31.14  53.98    1.53  0.33   1.86
3     1971           Jerry West*   PG  27.11  57.07   -0.27  1.19   0.92
4     1971          Chet Walker*   SF  26.61  54.14   -0.48  0.37  -0.11
5     1971            Lou Hudson   SF  26.83  52.72   -0.38  0.01  -0.38
6     1971           Bob Lanier*    C  27.39  50.30   -0.15 -0.61  -0.77
7     1971        Pete Maravich*   SG  26.31  51.22   -0.60 -0.37  -0.98
8     1971          Geoff Petrie   SG  26.66  49.93   -0.45 -0.71  -1.17
9     1971           Walt Wesley    C  26.04  50.20   -0.72 -0.64  -1.36
10    1971          Elvin Hayes*    C  26.20  46.77   -0.65 -1.72  -2.37
mean   NaN                   NaN  NaN  27.77  52.69    0.14  0.05   0.18
std    NaN                   NaN  NaN   2.47   3.97    1.36  1.20   2.42

Who besides Jerry West are considered great offensive players? And West was nearing the end of his prime by '71 I think. Like you mentioned Jokic is competing with Giannis, Durant, and Steph in their prime. That's the downside of adjusting per era.. Not to take away anything from Kareem's dominance though!

Also the competition Shaq faced back in 1999 wasn't, IMO, as talented as this years:

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      Year               Player  Pos  PP100    TS%  PP100Δ   TSΔ  Score
1     1999    Shaquille O'Neal*    C  39.60  58.37    4.00  2.03   6.03
2     1999         Karl Malone*   PF  35.10  57.73    1.34  1.71   3.05
3     1999           Shawn Kemp   PF  32.50  57.76    0.40  1.72   2.12
4     1999     Alonzo Mourning*    C  29.80  56.33   -0.52  1.08   0.56
5     1999          Grant Hill*   SF  31.60  54.35    0.09  0.31   0.40
6     1999       Allen Iverson*   SG  34.90  50.77    1.26 -1.06   0.20
7     1999            Rik Smits    C  31.80  52.67    0.16 -0.32  -0.16
8     1999          Tim Duncan*   PF  29.90  54.06   -0.49  0.20  -0.29
9     1999  Shareef Abdur-Rahim   SF  30.70  53.03   -0.21 -0.18  -0.40
10    1999       Glenn Robinson   SF  30.20  52.31   -0.38 -0.45  -0.84
11    1999       Keith Van Horn   PF  30.50  51.86   -0.28 -0.63  -0.91
12    1999          Steve Smith   SG  28.80  52.58   -0.87 -0.35  -1.23
13    1999      Stephon Marbury   PG  29.00  51.92   -0.80 -0.60  -1.40
14    1999         Gary Payton*   PG  28.90  51.89   -0.84 -0.61  -1.45
15    1999      Antonio McDyess    C  29.10  51.47   -0.77 -0.78  -1.54
16    1999       Kevin Garnett*   PF  28.90  49.31   -0.84 -1.71  -2.55
mean   NaN                  NaN  NaN  31.33  53.53    0.08  0.02   0.10
std    NaN                  NaN  NaN   2.97   2.69    1.26  1.08   2.11