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Post#21 » by AleksandarN » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:47 am

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Balls Deep wrote:Look I’m not sexist, but I ain’t trying to see women coaching in the NBA.

Who cares if she is female or male as long as she can coach


Male athletics/the locker room is a very vulgar place. I want be myself when around the boys. I would feel uncomfortable around a female coach, and I’m sure most males would. Why must women take everything from us?


Dude that sounds so weak. You sound like you are afraid of women? Why be afraid of equals?
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Post#22 » by G R E Y » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:50 am

Balls Deep wrote:
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Balls Deep wrote:Look I’m not sexist, but I ain’t trying to see women coaching in the NBA.

Who cares if she is female or male as long as she can coach


Male athletics/the locker room is a very vulgar place. I want be myself when around the boys. I would feel uncomfortable around a female coach, and I’m sure most males would. Why must women take everything from us?


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Post#23 » by DB23 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:52 am

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Yeah, that's not at all what he said.


There’s not really a non-sexist way to interpret that.

Let me take care of this part for you: “you can’t say anything these days, cancel culture, woke mob, sjws, blah blah blah”

Let’s swap out just one word and see if that’s better: “Look I’m not sexist, but I ain’t trying to see blacks coaching in the NBA.” See how that looks?


You claim he says people should be excluded based on their sex. He never said that. He said he doesn't want to see it. Whether or not that's sexists is a different discussion, but at least paraphrase him accurately.

Edit: But lets entertain the sexism claim. If a woman says that she doesn't want to see a man on the View, is that necessarily sexist?


You are out-thinking yourself with this one. Yea what he said was sexist. And no the view is not a good analogy.
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Post#24 » by Balls Deep » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:52 am

AleksandarN wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:Who cares if she is female or male as long as she can coach


Male athletics/the locker room is a very vulgar place. I want be myself when around the boys. I would feel uncomfortable around a female coach, and I’m sure most males would. Why must women take everything from us?


Dude that sounds so weak. You sound like you are afraid of women? Why be afraid of equals?


Male sports are sacred, just let it be.
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Post#25 » by CS707 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:54 am

G R E Y wrote:Well, frankly, finally. She'd been on a media tour giving her resume unlike anything heard from any other assistant coach. She's in a unique pocket in that she was the first female assistant coach in the NBA, but that Portland interview and the fallout felt like a turning point then and since then.

There were just to many times the Spurs were put on notice and it was starting to feel like the direction between the two sides were diverging. Ok, so glad that's all over and done with, good luck, and each side did what's best for them.


Were there issues between her and the Spurs organization?
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Post#26 » by AleksandarN » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:56 am

Balls Deep wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:
Male athletics/the locker room is a very vulgar place. I want be myself when around the boys. I would feel uncomfortable around a female coach, and I’m sure most males would. Why must women take everything from us?


Dude that sounds so weak. You sound like you are afraid of women? Why be afraid of equals?


Male sports are sacred, just let it be.


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Post#27 » by God Squad » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:58 am

F N 11 wrote:L in my humble opinion unless the bag is ridiculous.

That's how I feel too. It seemed like she was on the verge of first Female HC in the NBA. Which would have been not only a good hire, but groundbreaking.
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Post#28 » by Plain Old Josh » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:00 am

Balls Deep wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:Look I’m not sexist, but I ain’t trying to see women coaching in the NBA.

Who cares if she is female or male as long as she can coach


Male athletics/the locker room is a very vulgar place. I want be myself when around the boys. I would feel uncomfortable around a female coach, and I’m sure most males would. Why must women take everything from us?

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Post#29 » by Tracymcgoaty » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:02 am

Well she gets to coach.
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Post#30 » by ThumbsUpBaby » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:03 am

AleksandarN wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:Who cares if she is female or male as long as she can coach


Male athletics/the locker room is a very vulgar place. I want be myself when around the boys. I would feel uncomfortable around a female coach, and I’m sure most males would. Why must women take everything from us?


Dude that sounds so weak. You sound like you are afraid of women? Why be afraid of equals?


Lol seriously. That part cracked me up. Sounds like something an incel would say.
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Post#32 » by G R E Y » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:08 am

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G R E Y wrote:Well, frankly, finally. She'd been on a media tour giving her resume unlike anything heard from any other assistant coach. She's in a unique pocket in that she was the first female assistant coach in the NBA, but that Portland interview and the fallout felt like a turning point then and since then.

There were just to many times the Spurs were put on notice and it was starting to feel like the direction between the two sides were diverging. Ok, so glad that's all over and done with, good luck, and each side did what's best for them.


Were there issues between her and the Spurs organization?

I wouldn't put it that way, but I would say that the consequences of the Portland interview and then someone on the Blazers leaking info justifying their hiring of Billups over Hammon left ripple effects.

Someone said that in the feedback Blazers got from whoever on the Spurs and others around the league is that Hammon was lax in some day-to-day details of the job. I thought it was a bitch move to reveal anything of the sort, regardless of whether it may have been true. The Spurs never said anything about it publicly, so who knows what assurances (or not) were given behind closed doors, and so she went and eventually talked to Jabari Young, of all people. He has long been known as the reporter who **** on the organization throughout the whole #2 saga before leaving town.

She'd done several interviews about her job and readiness to be a head coach since the Portland thing, so it sort of felt like it was putting the Spurs on notice. I think it indicates she wasn't given any assurances with us beyond her current position, too, so the Spurs and she did what was best for each of them.

You'll never hear anything but public support, but there was definitely a thundering silence from the Spurs post-Portland leak, and a bigger media push from her as well. Felt like a turning point, or at least one of several that led to this. Finally, really, all that campaigning was getting to have a whiff. But she turned it around for herself and there's really no downside unless one considers a jump from WNBA to NBA less likely than NBA assistant coach to HC. I'm just glad all the not so subtle signalling is over and done with, decision's been made, and we move forward.
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Post#33 » by Doctor MJ » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:10 am

So one thing that folks may not realize is that the franchise that is the Las Vegas Aces used to be the San Antonio Silver Stars, which is where Hammon became a WNBA icon, and how she ended up getting to know Pop in the first place. She's not going to a random gig, she's going to take over her old team - which is currently filled to the brim with talent, but whose fit is a challenge, and that has disappointed in the playoffs the past two years...and apparently she's getting a record setting contract to be a WNBA coach.

On the last, you might have a thought like "Pff, still nothing compared to the NBA.", and surely you'd be right, but consider that Hammon has literally never been a head coach anywhere before, so she's nowhere near as proven as the best coaches in the WNBA...including the man she'll be replacing Bill Laimbeer.

I don't know what Laimbeer's involvement will be in the front office, but given that previously Laimbeer was both coach & GM, and if it's true that Hammon's going to get paid more than he was, I think it's pretty likely she'll be getting to take this franchise wherever she wants - including deciding which players to build around, and which to trade. These are powers she clearly wouldn't have had on an NBA team.

So, I don't see this move as Hammon "giving up". I see it as an incredible opportunity in and of itself, and I see it as potentially what she was going to need first if she was ever going to be hired as a head coach in the NBA.
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Post#34 » by Myth » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:16 am

I’m a bit relieved she isn’t coaching the current Blazers because I think many would have wrongfully pinned this terrible performance on her. I wish her luck with this Vegas than and hopefully we see her coaching on the NBA soon.
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Post#35 » by CS707 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:18 am

G R E Y wrote:
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G R E Y wrote:Well, frankly, finally. She'd been on a media tour giving her resume unlike anything heard from any other assistant coach. She's in a unique pocket in that she was the first female assistant coach in the NBA, but that Portland interview and the fallout felt like a turning point then and since then.

There were just to many times the Spurs were put on notice and it was starting to feel like the direction between the two sides were diverging. Ok, so glad that's all over and done with, good luck, and each side did what's best for them.


Were there issues between her and the Spurs organization?

I wouldn't put it that way, but I would say that the consequences of the Portland interview and then someone on the Blazers leaking info justifying their hiring of Billups over Hammon left ripple effects.

Someone said that in the feedback Blazers got from whoever on the Spurs and others around the league is that Hammon was lax in some day-to-day details of the job. I thought it was a bitch move to reveal anything of the sort, regardless of whether it may have been true. The Spurs never said anything about it publicly, so who knows what assurances (or not) were given behind closed doors, and so she went and eventually talked to Jabari Young, of all people. He has long been known as the reporter who **** on the organization throughout the whole #2 saga before leaving town.

She'd done several interviews about her job and readiness to be a head coach since the Portland thing, so it sort of felt like it was putting the Spurs on notice. I think it indicates she wasn't given any assurances with us beyond her current position, too, so the Spurs and she did what was best for each of them.

You'll never hear anything but public support, but there was definitely a thundering silence post-Portland leak, and a bigger media push from her as well. Felt like a turning point, or at least one of several that led to this. Finally, really, all that campaigning was getting to have a whiff. But she turned it around for herself and there's really no downside unless one considers a jump from WNBA to NBA less likely than NBA assistant coach to HC. I'm just glad all the not so subtle signalling is over and done with, decision's been made, and we move forward.


Good insight. Appreciate the info.
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Post#36 » by logical_art » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:20 am

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There’s not really a non-sexist way to interpret that.

Let me take care of this part for you: “you can’t say anything these days, cancel culture, woke mob, sjws, blah blah blah”

Let’s swap out just one word and see if that’s better: “Look I’m not sexist, but I ain’t trying to see blacks coaching in the NBA.” See how that looks?


You claim he says people should be excluded based on their sex. He never said that. He said he doesn't want to see it. Whether or not that's sexists is a different discussion, but at least paraphrase him accurately.

Edit: But lets entertain the sexism claim. If a woman says that she doesn't want to see a man on the View, is that necessarily sexist?


You are out-thinking yourself with this one. Yea what he said was sexist. And no the view is not a good analogy.


Why is the view not a good analogy? Are men allowed to have domains which they prefer to be for men, like women are allowed? If not, what justifies the double standard?
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Post#37 » by AsparaGus » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:26 am

Balls Deep wrote:Look I’m not sexist, but I ain’t trying to see women coaching in the NBA.

We’ll if you’re not “sexist” then you have to be:

a) ignorant
b) of lower human intelligence

Pick your poison.
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Post#38 » by Snakebites » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:30 am

logical_art wrote:
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You claim he says people should be excluded based on their sex. He never said that. He said he doesn't want to see it. Whether or not that's sexists is a different discussion, but at least paraphrase him accurately.

Edit: But lets entertain the sexism claim. If a woman says that she doesn't want to see a man on the View, is that necessarily sexist?


You are out-thinking yourself with this one. Yea what he said was sexist. And no the view is not a good analogy.


Why is the view not a good analogy? Are men allowed to have domains which they prefer to be for men, like women are allowed? If not, what justifies the double standard?

The View is a program geared towards women. The NBA is a program that is marketed to everyone. It is not the providence of men- it is merely a space that men historically have had a monopoly on in terms of jobs and opportunities. There is no reason for it to be a “man’s domain” anywhere but the court- you just presume it to be because it always has been.

There are not men hoping for a chance to be on the View because they don’t need it. There are other comparable opportunities that offer equal or greater opportunity and exposure. The same cannot be said for the NBA. If you want the most money, exposure, prestige, etc in the basketball in the USA, you need to get into the NBA, and women, despite there being a great many with basketball knowledge and experience, are not well represented there. At all.

It’s a bad analogy. I don’t even necessarily accept the premise that refusing a man on the View necessarily wouldn’t be sexist, butit’s an awful analogy when one looks at reality and context.
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Post#39 » by G R E Y » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:30 am

I absolutely LOVE that she's taking over the job from that wanker Bill Laimbeer :lol:
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Post#40 » by Pachinko_ » Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:39 am

NBA HC jobs are in the dark ages, no women or foreigners allowed.

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