Paul George probably out for the season.

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Re: Paul George probably out for the season. 

Post#21 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:56 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:There is also the news, that they could be sellers at the trade deadline. But why? To gift OKC a better pick?


Yeah I can buy that PG might be out, given that he has a history of upper body issues.

But the point about the "gap year" is dumb and clickbait-y from Fischer. It never acknowledges that OKC owns the 2022 unp 1st. So that all seems like bunk.
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Post#22 » by CIN-C-STAR » Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:57 pm

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ChuckChilly wrote:Kawhi should definitely sit the season out now if true.
I agree.


Dont worry guys, Uncle Dennis is wayyyy ahead of you on this one 8-) :)
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Post#23 » by Goner » Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:57 pm

The difference between 'probably' and 'possibly' is immense. 'Probably' means something is more likely than not whereas 'possibly' means that there is no logical contradiction in it happening. It is possible that every player in the NBA sits out the rest of the season. See the difference?
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Post#24 » by Cubbies2120 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:57 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:28 points at the half yesterday, buckle up it's about to be one bumpy ride Clipper fans. :lol:


Damn that prompted me to look up lowest scoring games.

Lakers once lost 19-18 to the Fort Wayne Pistons :lol: 4 years later the shot clock was added
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Post#25 » by jokeboy86 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:04 pm

In this modern superstar team-up era you're lucky if you get 1 NBA championship, let alone 2. We're going to see more and more load management because if you're an organization with 2(or more) highly paid stars, all you care about is getting a playoff berth and having guys fresh for April-June. The pace of the game and the way it's played is just far too taxing so unless the rare workhorse/ironmen of the league get together(Giannis, Jokic, Lebron) I think the days of dynasties in the league may be officially over.
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Post#26 » by Rafael122 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:07 pm

The biggest difference in the gap year logic is that Golden State had two lottery picks coming their way. Clippers owe their first rounder to OKC, so yeah...if they trade Morris and get a pick in return I guess it doesn't matter, but tanking doesn't make sense.
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Post#27 » by jc23 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:12 pm

rough, but good news to teams in the west looking to make the playoffs.
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Post#28 » by R-DAWG » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:13 pm

It's a gap year for them, and they potentially wont make the playoffs in a year where they don't own their pick.

But they will go into next season with Kwahi Leonard and Paul George on their roster. Not a bad way to start a season.
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Post#29 » by levon » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:14 pm

jokeboy86 wrote:In this modern superstar team-up era you're lucky if you get 1 NBA championship, let alone 2. We're going to see more and more load management because if you're an organization with 2(or more) highly paid stars, all you care about is getting a playoff berth and having guys fresh for April-June. The pace of the game and the way it's played is just far too taxing so unless the rare workhorse/ironmen of the league get together(Giannis, Jokic, Lebron) I think the days of dynasties in the league may be officially over.

I think the last few years are evidence that load management has no appreciable effect on health, to be honest. Certainly more compelling than "the Raps rested one player one year and won the title so it works!!!" argument. I think Lebron is of the mind that playing more is actually better for consistent health. I won't go that far, but intuitively if you play more, your body is more prepared for the rigors of more basketball.

We need to call load management what it is: risk management for player contracts. People want to take away one less opportunity that such-and-such could get hurt in order to maximize finances.

We don't talk about this enough, but Pop kind of ruined the game. He rested guys who were past their primes so that they were ready for the postseason. Now everybody is resting, unsubstantiated, old player or not. It's like how everyone is emulating Steph.
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Post#30 » by mpoo_sin » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:17 pm

Goner wrote:The difference between 'probably' and 'possibly' is immense. 'Probably' means something is more likely than not whereas 'possibly' means that there is no logical contradiction in it happening. It is possible that every player in the NBA sits out the rest of the season. See the difference?


If he gets surgery he will miss the season. He ll be out several months. So as long as surgery isn t done i m fine with "possibly" but if he goes under the knife i strongly believe in the possibility of him missing the rest of the season.

I asked on page 1 if someone can tell me/us the effects such an injury has. Until now noone bothered to answer.
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Post#31 » by longtallbrad » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:29 pm

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Mamba Mentality wrote:28 points at the half yesterday, buckle up it's about to be one bumpy ride Clipper fans. :lol:


Damn that prompted me to look up lowest scoring games.

Lakers once lost 19-18 to the Fort Wayne Pistons :lol: 4 years later the shot clock was added


Yes, indeed. The Pistons basically took the air out of the ball, figuratively speaking, to minimize the number of touches for George Mikan. T?he result was so atrociously mind-numbing that rules were eventually changed.
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Post#32 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:31 pm

mpoo_sin wrote:
Goner wrote:The difference between 'probably' and 'possibly' is immense. 'Probably' means something is more likely than not whereas 'possibly' means that there is no logical contradiction in it happening. It is possible that every player in the NBA sits out the rest of the season. See the difference?


If he gets surgery he will miss the season. He ll be out several months. So as long as surgery isn t done i m fine with "possibly" but if he goes under the knife i strongly believe in the possibility of him missing the rest of the season.

I asked on page 1 if someone can tell me/us the effects such an injury has. Until now noone bothered to answer.

His injury is very common in pitchers and occasionally QB's, I've personally never heard of it in basketball players. It requires Tommy John surgery.

The recovery varies, a quick Google search put the recovery time frame as low as 6 months but as high as 2 years. Again, it's hard to tell where a basketball player falls into that because the sports require different motions. A QB vs a pitcher vs a positional baseball player vs now Paul George, who knows.
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Post#33 » by Pointgod » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:32 pm

Clippers would be idiots to tank. What they should be doing is taking on long term salary with draft picks instead of tanking. Literally zero incentive to tank if George is out for the season.
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Post#34 » by og15 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:37 pm

Well...that is quite the disappointment
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Post#35 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:51 pm

They don’t have their own first but they have some pieces they could trade and get 1st round talent back in return. Example. Morris to BOS to play the 4 which is a huge upgrade for BOS and allows Tatum to stay at the 3. They could get Pritchard to be their PG, Nesmith to be their bench shooter if not starting 2 should he work out plus Grant Williams to be a role player and Morris replacement. They can trade Kennard to CLE for Sexton and his RFA rights. CLE shouldn’t sign him, need shooting and have defense to hide him. Clippers potentially get a cheap Sexton forced to take a one year prove it deal. There’s plenty of teams who would send a young player or draft pick for the other expiring vets that could help a contender or they just keep and enjoy the cap savings

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Mann-Nesmith
Kawhi
George-Williams
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cap space to tinker. That team is making a run provided everyone is healthy and they can find some vets to bolster depth/round out the roster. I’m assuming people would scoff but that because they don’t realize how good Pritchard is just like the Celtics HC and fans
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Post#36 » by NirvanaFC » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:00 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:They don’t have their own first but they have some pieces they could trade and get 1st round talent back in return. Example. Morris to BOS to play the 4 which is a huge upgrade for BOS and allows Tatum to stay at the 3. They could get Pritchard to be their PG, Nesmith to be their bench shooter if not starting 2 should he work out plus Grant Williams to be a role player and Morris replacement. They can trade Kennard to CLE for Sexton and his RFA rights. CLE shouldn’t sign him, need shooting and have defense to hide him. Clippers potentially get a cheap Sexton forced to take a one year prove it deal. There’s plenty of teams who would send a young player or draft pick for the other expiring vets that could help a contender or they just keep and enjoy the cap savings

2022 Clippers

Pritchard (Sexton)
Mann-Nesmith
Kawhi
George-Williams
Zubac

cap space to tinker. That team is making a run provided everyone is healthy and they can find some vets to bolster depth/round out the roster. I’m assuming people would scoff but that because they don’t realize how good Pritchard is just like the Celtics HC and fans

Wait I need more context. Are we talking about the Payton Prichard who is averaging 13 points per 36 min at below 50% TS?
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Post#37 » by Roscoe Sheed » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:04 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:28 points at the half yesterday, buckle up it's about to be one bumpy ride Clipper fans. :lol:

and then they came back from down 25 points to win the game- give some credit to this scrappy group
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Post#38 » by nickhx2 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:11 pm

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Mamba Mentality wrote:28 points at the half yesterday, buckle up it's about to be one bumpy ride Clipper fans. :lol:

and then they came back from down 25 points to win the game- give some credit to this scrappy group


just to be clear, i think most reasonable clip fans have had the expectation that this would be a year with a lot of ups and downs, and if there were to be a major injury it'd pretty much end a shot at the playoffs, but give way to a major developmental year for at least 5-6 of the young guys.

sure it'd be disappointing but most have known that having everything turn out just right (the team playing at a high level all year and kawhi returning early) was a long shot. hopeful, but hopeful without high expectation.

basically if pg were out it'd be a big deal, but not really that big a deal.
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Post#39 » by Roscoe Sheed » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:18 pm

nickhx2 wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:28 points at the half yesterday, buckle up it's about to be one bumpy ride Clipper fans. :lol:

and then they came back from down 25 points to win the game- give some credit to this scrappy group


just to be clear, i think most reasonable clip fans have had the expectation that this would be a year with a lot of ups and downs, and if there were to be a major injury it'd pretty much end a shot at the playoffs, but give way to a major developmental year for at least 5-6 of the young guys.

sure it'd be disappointing but most have known that having everything turn out just right (the team playing at a high level all year and kawhi returning early) was a long shot. hopeful, but hopeful without high expectation.

basically if pg were out it'd be a big deal, but not really that big a deal.

that's the realistic expectations, but there has always been an outside shot at contending if PG stayed healthy and Kawhi returned. Hopefully that is still possible, however unlikely
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Post#40 » by TheNewEra » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:19 pm

They won’t tank but they could be sellers

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