[BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer

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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#21 » by danvato » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:47 pm

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kuclas wrote:KD resigned already. He alone will keep that unprotected pick 15 or worst.

He's 33...


One of those picks is already gone, another one comes up this summer and will be late late 20s, and KD alone means next year's swap won't be used. So sure there are two unprotected picks in a few years that might be decent (or might not).

Even if Harden leaves that's two full years of a superstar for a couple of picks down the line. Was a great gamble and they're fine even worst case scenario.


you sure about that?
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#22 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:55 pm

Is there a realistic scenario where Harden can actually leave? Nets wont get equal value and have invested too much to sign and trade him. There are no realistic teams with cap space unless Harden wants to play for the Pistons?
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#23 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:56 pm

If KD misses any major time going forward, they might have a serious decision by the deadline. As crazy as that sounds.

They can't let him walk and not even make a finals.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#24 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:00 pm

Davis + Westbrook

FOR

Harden + Irving

Who says no?
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#25 » by sip » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:12 pm

kuclas wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Unprotected Nets picks :D

KD resigned already. He alone will keep that unprotected pick 15 or worst.
If he stays healthy then he can keep them competitive by himself but those picks and pick swaps go every year until 2027. KD has already had one major injury and a ton of mileage on his body.

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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#26 » by dautjazz » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:44 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.
How is clear, because you don't want it to be true? Harden left the going got tough in Houston, and with Irving being a part timer and KD injuries, the path to a title isn't as easy as it once seemed. It's very likely that something drastic happens with that big three, and it wouldn't surprise me in the bit if its Harden leaving.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#27 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:47 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.
How is clear, because you don't want it to be true? Harden left the going got tough in Houston, and with Irving being a part timer and KD injuries, the path to a title isn't as easy as it once seemed. It's very likely that something drastic happens with that big three, and it wouldn't surprise me in the bit if its Harden leaving.


Its not about not wanting it to be true.

There have been rumors of Harden to Philly since last summer. And we know he wanted him when he was in Houston.

The path for the title won't be easy in Philly either. Considering he will have to be the guy in crunch time which we know he isn't good at. Right now he can hide behind KD.

Not sure what contender he can go to that gives him a better chance of winning that with KD and Kyrie.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#28 » by TheHartBreakKid » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:58 pm

If there is any truth to this, it's hard to see why some form of Simmons for Harden trade wouldn't happen before the deadline. The summer makes no sense.

We will shortly know if this is Morey/ or fake bs. Literally almost no reason for any party to not make a trade happen now if Harden is even uncertain about his future.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#29 » by jokeboy86 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:58 pm

At his age I wouldn't want to give Harden a 3 or 4yr deal cause i think physically he's now on the decline.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#30 » by HotelVitale » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:18 pm

danvato wrote:
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KhalilS wrote:He's 33...
One of those picks is already gone, another one comes up this summer and will be late late 20s, and KD alone means next year's swap won't be used. So sure there are two unprotected picks in a few years that might be decent (or might not). Even if Harden leaves that's two full years of a superstar for a couple of picks down the line. Was a great gamble and they're fine even worst case scenario.
you sure about that?

You're right, it was just one of the pick swaps last year. So they didn't even lose a pick yet.

So it's a late pick this year, two picks in 2024 and 2026 that might be anywhere. I get there's some risk to the swaps but that's a slam dunk gamble for a superstar trade.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#31 » by SF_Warriors » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:22 pm

Willing to bet harden does not hold up well at age 35 and onward. Nash has been riding him hard also, 38.7mpg in the past 23 games and his workload is only going to increase without KD.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#32 » by TheNG » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:35 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

Plot twist: It is actually the Nets fueling these rumors - they want Morey to believe there's a chance he can get Harden, making Morey decline any other viable option during this season, making this season a big waste of the 76ers chance to contend, and making Simmons worth less next year.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#33 » by HotelVitale » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:36 pm

TheHartBreakKid wrote:If there is any truth to this, it's hard to see why some form of Simmons for Harden trade wouldn't happen before the deadline. The summer makes no sense. We will shortly know if this is Morey/ or fake bs. Literally almost no reason for any party to not make a trade happen now if Harden is even uncertain about his future.

At best it's a very vague rumor, and at best just saying that Harden isn't 100% sold on returning. Either way, everything will change depending on what happens between now and the summer.

Also it feels like BKN's definitely not going to make any moves without seeing what happens with the current group. Not unless Harden was saying 'yo I'm definitely out so trade me for whatever you can.'
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#34 » by Sharcm1 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:41 pm

I think I will be the nets fan to say this. But harden has played like absolute garbage this season. I know people are going to argue his stats and a few good games he had but overall garbage. He has provided no effort on the offensive or defensive ends in most of the nets games this season. He has turned the ball over at the worst times and has dribbled at the top of the three point line for like 20 of the 24 seconds to either pass to a guarded player to jack up a shot or did his step back/side three in which he’s not hitting at a good rate. He has looked lost on the offensive end and on defense it’s like they are playing four on five out there. I know harden is a great player and philly wants him and the fans want him but if this is the harden of the future then I guess as long as the nets get something back I’d be ok with him going. Gonna pay the guy over 200 mill to play like this. I’ll pass.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#35 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:44 pm

Wolveswin wrote:Davis + Westbrook

FOR

Harden + Irving

Who says no?


You're joking right?!

Nets have the Lakers number blocked before they finish saying Westbrook.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#36 » by danvato » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:57 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:If KD misses any major time going forward, they might have a serious decision by the deadline. As crazy as that sounds.

They can't let him walk and not even make a finals.


no chance harden traded by deadline, 0.
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#37 » by danvato » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:07 pm

TheHartBreakKid wrote:If there is any truth to this, it's hard to see why some form of Simmons for Harden trade wouldn't happen before the deadline. The summer makes no sense.

We will shortly know if this is Morey/ or fake bs. Literally almost no reason for any party to not make a trade happen now if Harden is even uncertain about his future.


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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#38 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:09 pm

To the Lakers he goes
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#39 » by Edrees » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:10 pm

kuclas wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Unprotected Nets picks :D

KD resigned already. He alone will keep that unprotected pick 15 or worst.


Not if he becomes injury plagued and can't stay on the court, which is a possibility at his age of 34 next year, and injury history, so that pick has a lot of potential
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Re: [BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer 

Post#40 » by Pointgod » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:12 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Is there a realistic scenario where Harden can actually leave? Nets wont get equal value and have invested too much to sign and trade him. There are no realistic teams with cap space unless Harden wants to play for the Pistons?


Of course it’s not realistic. Just think for a second. Just look at the teams with capspace next summer. Eliminate the teams that are already hard capped. Eliminate the teams where a sign and trade would hard cap them. Then realize in a sign and trade the Nets would have to take more salary back than what’s going out if they’re dealing with a team that’s hard capped.

Now let’s go back to the teams with enough cap space to sign Harden:
-Orlando
-Detroit
-San Antonio

Unless he really likes the strip clubs and food in these cities this rumour is absolute bull

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