Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right?

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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#21 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:27 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
SalmonsSuperfan wrote:this sort of thing happens every other possession in the nba, just in less exaggerated fashion. they don't call travels in the backcourt. technically a travel, but who cares


So you agree it's technically a travel?

it's de jure a travel but de facto not a travel. referees never call it and nba players know that. it's a good thing, it's a completely pointless call to make
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#22 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:28 pm

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Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling


I mean simply running or jogging and dribbling means you will have both feet off the ground. So literally this happens dozens of times in every game you've ever watched. :D


But it's akin to a jumping motion when you have the ball in your possession, two feet leaving ground, then two feet land back on the ground in your possession.

That's a travel


So you want the NBA to force players to either advance the ball only while walking or via the pass? Because I have to say that would make for a worse product so its more likely you are interpreting the rule incorrectly. Because players dribble having two feet off the ground all the time.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#23 » by Alonzo_Morning » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:30 pm

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I mean simply running or jogging and dribbling means you will have both feet off the ground. So literally this happens dozens of times in every game you've ever watched. :D


But it's akin to a jumping motion when you have the ball in your possession, two feet leaving ground, then two feet land back on the ground in your possession.

That's a travel


So you want the NBA to force players to either advance the ball only while walking or via the pass? Because I have to say that would make for a worse product so its more likely you are interpreting the rule incorrectly. Because players dribble having two feet off the ground all the time.


Well I think egregious galloping should be called a travel. That's the law. He did it three times in a row. I guess it is entertaining though

Maybe amend the rules for traveling in the dying stages of a very close game
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Post#24 » by heezyo2o » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:40 pm

The only thing illegal is the Lakers allowing a layup there to lose the game
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#25 » by Shock Defeat » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:45 pm

So basically if a player is dribbling but shuffles his feet quickly while the ball is still bouncing up to his palm, that's not a travel.

However this is closer to palming for sure.
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Post#26 » by Alonzo_Morning » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:47 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:So basically if a player is dribbling but shuffles his feet quickly while the ball is still bouncing up to his palm, that's not a travel.

However this is closer to palming for sure.[/


In basketball, traveling is a violation of the rules that occurs when a player holding the ball moves one or both their feet illegally. Traveling is also called, predominantly in a streetball game, "walking" or "steps". If the pivot foot is lifted, a pass or try for made basket must be made before the pivot foot is replaced to the floor.


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Post#27 » by Black Mage » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:54 pm

I almost forgot what he did dribbling wise, I am still trying to process just how awful that defense was by the Lakers.
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Post#28 » by Frank Dux » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:57 pm

Should’ve been called for palming the ball.
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Post#29 » by jordanwilliams6 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:59 pm

That defense by Westbrook is absolutely hilarious.
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Post#30 » by mediocrityrules » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:05 pm

Not a travel, but it's more of a carry than i'd like to see, and something that most players do nowadays (in terms of coming very close to a carry).

You'll notice when a player is backing another player down, how many times they are basically carrying as they do it, but it never gets called in the NBA.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#31 » by HotelVitale » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:13 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion. I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling

You might be confusing this with what happens when the ball is stopped. The way we were taught how to ref this even at the high school level--where rules are actually sort of strict and not 'whatever makes the stars look good'--is that when players start a jump without an active dribble, they have to commit to a shot or pass.

In other words you can't catch the ball and start to shoot but then change your mind and start dribbling before you hit the ground (which would most commonly happen if you saw a defender was going to block your shot). That rule fully makes sense with the logic of traveling too, since you technically move your pivot foot when you jump so therefore you can't go back to dribbling.

Don't think the rules say anything about hopping while your dribble is active. I don't remember being taught anything about it in ref training camp, plus your pivot foot is irrelevant when dribbling.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#32 » by Domejandro » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:15 pm

100% palming, but not a travel.
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Post#33 » by Goner » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:17 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:So basically if a player is dribbling but shuffles his feet quickly while the ball is still bouncing up to his palm, that's not a travel.

However this is closer to palming for sure.[/


In basketball, traveling is a violation of the rules that occurs when a player holding the ball moves one or both their feet illegally. Traveling is also called, predominantly in a streetball game, "walking" or "steps". If the pivot foot is lifted, a pass or try for made basket must be made before the pivot foot is replaced to the floor.


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You do not establish a pivot foot until you have gathered the ball. I'm afraid your celebration is a bit premature.
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Post#34 » by chyau.00 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:48 pm

not a travel. no different from the jordan stutter step
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Post#35 » by ellobo » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:01 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling


I mean simply running or jogging and dribbling means you will have both feet off the ground. So literally this happens dozens of times in every game you've ever watched. :D


But it's akin to a jumping motion when you have the ball in your possession, two feet leaving ground, then two feet land back on the ground, with the ball in your possession.

That's a travel


It's only a travel after you've picked up your dribble or before you initiate a dribble. It's fine while you are dribbling. There are no restrictions in the rules on what you do with your feet during a live dribble.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#36 » by rockmanslim » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:14 pm

Goner wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:So basically if a player is dribbling but shuffles his feet quickly while the ball is still bouncing up to his palm, that's not a travel.

However this is closer to palming for sure.[/


In basketball, traveling is a violation of the rules that occurs when a player holding the ball moves one or both their feet illegally. Traveling is also called, predominantly in a streetball game, "walking" or "steps". If the pivot foot is lifted, a pass or try for made basket must be made before the pivot foot is replaced to the floor.


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You do not establish a pivot foot until you have gathered the ball. I'm afraid your celebration is a bit premature.

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Post#37 » by Upperclass » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:15 pm

That play design was tremendous by Lue.. he cleared out a whole side and ensured Davis couldn't affect the play
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#38 » by cool007 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:18 pm

Do they really call travel in the NBA now??? Half the time whenever a player is trying the so called Euro-step, they are actually travelling with 3 to 4 steps.

So no, that was not a travel.
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Post#39 » by NyKnicks1714 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:19 pm

Not a travel, and pretty cool.
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Post#40 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:17 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling


I mean simply running or jogging and dribbling means you will have both feet off the ground. So literally this happens dozens of times in every game you've ever watched. :D


But it's akin to a jumping motion when you have the ball in your possession, two feet leaving ground, then two feet land back on the ground, with the ball in your possession.

That's a travel


The ball doesn't stop dribbling and his hand is never under the ball. You can take as many steps as you like if your dribble is alive. Two feet don't have to be on the floor to dribble
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