Bam is soft

[iamoti]

Only knock on Bam is that he misses a ton of games every year. Some don’t like the fact that he doesn’t shoot 3’s, and is more of an old school center on offense, but defensively he’s out guarding the perimeter, often on the opposing team’s best player.

Misses a ton of games? What? Have you even bothered to check that stat out? His only notable injury was this season.

I hope he keeps getting low credit. He's playing great for us and i dont care how other people value him

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[DuallyNoted]

Just to put things in perspective:

February 2022
Embiid: 33.1 MIN| 34.3 PER | 61.5% TS | 2.0 WS/48 | Philly 6-4 record
Jokic: 32.6 MIN | 28.6 PER | 62.9% TS | 2.0 WS/48 | Denver 8-3 record
Bam: 33.2 MIN | 27.2 PER | 61.4% TS | 2.0 WS/48 | Miami 9-2 record

Bam is truly ascending to the next level

In the last 10-15 games he's ascending so hard to being the third best at a position when there is a clear 1-2 better than him? That's awesome! He's a great player and playing incredibly. So he's ascending to a 2nd team All-NBA position possibly. Celebrate him for that instead of dragging down and insulting all of the other players.

[eyeatoma]

Lol no...

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[somerandomdude]

Imagine if the coaches for the Sixers/Nuggets/Timberwolves viewed Embiid/Jokic/KAT as nothing more than a facilitator and offensive rebounder on offense and stuck them on that role their whole career.

Would you still think as highly of those guys the same way you do today?

Since it's understandable that people don't follow another team closely - as a Heat fan, take it from me:

Spo doesn't see Bam as a scorer and doesn't run plays for him on offense.

In fact, Spo views Bam as a PG for Duncan Robinson

Spoiler:

Spo encourages Duncan Robinson to shoot, will pull Duncan out of the game if he doesn't shoot, but has never encouraged Bam like that or held Bam to that same standard

Spoiler:

Compare that to when Bam had the gall to come out aggressive in the 3rd qtr against the Wiz, Spo shot down any praise and said, "(It's not about) putting up a certain amount of shots or numbers."

Spoiler:

@ 2m41s

Watch on YouTube

Or against the Spurs the first time we played them, when Bam scored the Heat's first 3 baskets, and was mysteriously pulled out of the game earlier than when he normally goes to the bench.

When Bam had a season high 36pts the other day, Spo went back to comparing him to a PG

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

The disconnect that Spo has in how he views Duncan Robinson compared to how he views Bam is absurd and would not be tolerated anywhere else. Imagine Jokic/Embiid/KAT having to play second fiddle to Duncan Robinson.

On any other team, Bam would have a far bigger role on offense (and from the start of his career) than he does with the Heat, and people's opinions of him would be much higher considering he's already great defensively and can do other things like run his own fast break or create offense for others.

[Johnny Bball]

One of the more overrated players in the game today. He isn't close to the big 3 centers ability wise or in terms of on court impact.

Still didn't forget how a faction of fans were acting like he reinvented the wheel because he did a few euro steps.

No.

Adebayo with a 3 is the future archetype for typical elite NBA centres. The ability to guard 1 to 5 and to protect the rim is the most valuable today.

You could say that about any of Allen, Mobley or Ayto n- his contemporaries (Mobley for a season or two max). Could you imagine just attaching a 3 ball onto Robert Williams with his freakish athleticism? This isn't call of duty and you could make these empty general statements about a lot of random guys. Ben Simmons with a 3 ball is?

His hallmark skill is being a big that can move his feet on the perimeter, but his block rates are mediocre. Only 6'9, no perimeter offensive skill whatsoever. Slightly positive on/off's.

He's a good center, calling him elite or mentioning him in the breath with the MVP caliber bigs running the league right now is ridiculously disrespectful. What they were doing at 24 trumps what he's doing now also.

Nope I can't. Mobley only maybe one day would be in the same group because Allen and Ayton aren't guarding guards on perimeter successfully very often.

He's not just a "good" centre. He is the future and you see centres being smaller every year, for a very good reason, their defence. It has nothing to do with the MVP calibre centres. Most teams will not build around MVP calibre centres in the future because they won't be successful in the end. You are going to have to be ale to switch, guard the rim and perimeter and 1-5. That is the future, as is being hard to guard on the perimeter on offense and in the PNR by bigger slower centres The league has only begun the process of playing smaller full time.

[AussieCeltic]

In some ways Bam reminds me of Anthony Mason. Very good player but I don't see any MVPs in his future

Are we talking about NBA Anthony Mason?? Because, I don’t see anything remotely similar.

[Phreak50]

I thought Poku was the next MVP?

[Statlanta]

Imagine if the coaches for the Sixers/Nuggets/Timberwolves viewed Embiid/Jokic/KAT as nothing more than a facilitator and offensive rebounder on offense and stuck them on that role their whole career.

Would you still think as highly of those guys the same way you do today?

Yes. Rudy Gobert has even less responsibility and is better than Adebayo.

[Saberestar]

Yeah, why not one more? With him there are only 8211 players who are MVP caliber this season.

[Hallstar]

Imagine if the coaches for the Sixers/Nuggets/Timberwolves viewed Embiid/Jokic/KAT as nothing more than a facilitator and offensive rebounder on offense and stuck them on that role their whole career.

Would you still think as highly of those guys the same way you do today?

Yes. Rudy Gobert has even less responsibility and is better than Adebayo.

There always has to be one who says pendulum go the other way

[Tim Reynolds]

Imagine if the coaches for the Sixers/Nuggets/Timberwolves viewed Embiid/Jokic/KAT as nothing more than a facilitator and offensive rebounder on offense and stuck them on that role their whole career.

Would you still think as highly of those guys the same way you do today?

Since it's understandable that people don't follow another team closely - as a Heat fan, take it from me:

Spo doesn't see Bam as a scorer and doesn't run plays for him on offense.

In fact, Spo views Bam as a PG for Duncan Robinson

Spoiler:

Spo encourages Duncan Robinson to shoot, will pull Duncan out of the game if he doesn't shoot, but has never encouraged Bam like that or held Bam to that same standard

Spoiler:

Compare that to when Bam had the gall to come out aggressive in the 3rd qtr against the Wiz, Spo shot down any praise and said, "(It's not about) putting up a certain amount of shots or numbers."

Spoiler:

@ 2m41s

Watch on YouTube

Or against the Spurs the first time we played them, when Bam scored the Heat's first 3 baskets, and was mysteriously pulled out of the game earlier than when he normally goes to the bench.

When Bam had a season high 36pts the other day, Spo went back to comparing him to a PG

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

The disconnect that Spo has in how he views Duncan Robinson compared to how he views Bam is absurd and would not be tolerated anywhere else. Imagine Jokic/Embiid/KAT having to play second fiddle to Duncan Robinson.

On any other team, Bam would have a far bigger role on offense (and from the start of his career) than he does with the Heat, and people's opinions of him would be much higher considering he's already great defensively and can do other things like run his own fast break or create offense for others.

Remember that Jokic was a second round pick competing with first round pick Josef Nurkic(Blazers Center), and earned his role, so much so that Denver decided to trade Nurkic. KAT and Embiid were high draft picks who were given big roles from the start. Jokic, not so much.

I love Bam, and maybe he put up more numbers on a different team that let's him do more on offense. Question is, would they win as much? Seems like its working pretty good so far. I trust Spo, he's a pretty good coach

[turnaroundJ]

Bam doesn't have to be an MVP caliber player. All-Star is enough for Miami. The team looks good again this year. Wouldn't be surprised to see them in the finals again.

[GeorgeMarcus]

In some ways Bam reminds me of Anthony Mason. Very good player but I don't see any MVPs in his future

Are we talking about NBA Anthony Mason?? Because, I don’t see anything remotely similar.

Yes, the only Anthony Mason I'm aware of. Athletic, very good/versatile defender, could handle the ball and create for others, had a similar looking shot chart... He was an All-NBA player so no slight intended against Bam. Why did the comparison surprise you so much?

[AussieBuck]

Way to turn what should be a positive story into a negative thread. No he isn't playing Jokic/Giannis/Embiid god-ball, yes he is playing awesome.

[BoatsNZones]

He is ascending to All NBA 3rd Team caliber, but he’s not quite there yet. The league is dripping with talent, it’s not a knock on Bam.

[Hallstar]

In some ways Bam reminds me of Anthony Mason. Very good player but I don't see any MVPs in his future

Are we talking about NBA Anthony Mason?? Because, I don’t see anything remotely similar.

Yes, the only Anthony Mason I'm aware of. Athletic, very good/versatile defender, could handle the ball and create for others, had a similar looking shot chart... He was an All-NBA player so no slight intended against Bam. Why did the comparison surprise you so much?

Because Mason didn't cross 15ppg til he was 30.

Would be like discussing Donovan Mitchell and someone brings up Rodney Stuckey

[CreekShow]

Stats aren't exactly super eye-popping but his impact on winning has been tremendous (a lot on the defensive end) and now being far more aggressive. He's looking like a lesser Giannis out there.

His ability to switch on guards and recover is truly phenomenal. Spo described it perfectly, Bam plays like he's in the matrix. One minute he's on the perimeter sticking a guard and within a second he's able to recover and still protect the rim (just showcased this tonight blocking Vuc).

https://youtube.com/shorts/aUJnzOS4kxU?feature=share

He's already a perennial DPOY candidate but hes finally realized that he's bigger, stronger, quicker and more athletic than 98% and is now dominating offensively as of late.
24/25 with a possibility of adding 3pt range is a scary player.

Im not positive you know the meaning of "Perennial" my guy

[Cubbies2120]

He really reminds of an Amar’e Stoudemire-level player. Like that tier of star

You're either way overrating Bam or way underrating Amar'e.

Peak Amar'e put up 30/11 in the playoffs, including 37/10 on 55% shooting against one of the GOAT defenders at the PF/C position.

[rate_]

He really reminds of an Amar’e Stoudemire-level player. Like that tier of star

You're either way overrating Bam or way underrating Amar'e.

Peak Amar'e put up 30/11 in the playoffs, including 37/10 on 55% shooting against one of the GOAT defenders at the PF/C position.

Amar'e was extremely dependent on Nash offensively while being a complete liability on defense. Bam can create for himself off the dribble while DPOY level defense. Also can be used to run offense as point occasionally. They aren't comparable at all.

[cupcakesnake]

Bam should be in the mix for 3rd team All-NBA. "MVP calibre" I don't see him quite at that level yet, since he's not an offensive fulcrum (still more of a finisher with some scoring versatility), and it's not like he's a DPOY favorite (but he's not far off).

I was disappointed that Bam has regressed as a shooter this year. He was money from midrange last year, but his shooting is down from everywhere this year. If Bam did have a path to being "MVP calibre", I think he'd have to be something like Anthony Davis (2020 playoffs version). He's never going to be big enough to be a dominant, matchup proof, interior scorer (right now Bam will beast smaller front lines but be less imposing against bigger centers). Defensively his strengths are in his versatility more than being a dominant rim protector or backline defender (though he's solid at that).

MVP Bam would have to be the DPOY and be having a monster season shooting the ball. Right now he's unlikely to make All-NBA unless they put Jokic/Embiid both on the first team. Gobert is the next best center, and then we have Bam and Towns fighting for the scraps.