Scoring Title this year

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Re: Scoring Title this year 

Post#21 » by trueballer7 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:41 pm

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I guess when a guy beats your team in the playoffs so many times, it really starts weighing on you eh?

Actually, LeBron has beaten the Pacers more than any other team in his career in the playoffs (5). So your hatred checks out.

Dam, you let him knock you out of the playoffs FIVE times?

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Losing to Miami and Clevelands' super teams, is nothing to be ashamed of. Getting sonned by Hendo Turkoglu and asking your corporate sponsors to buy you championships is.


Ahhhh, the default 'yeah but superteams' response--gotta love it.

But hey, at least he beat IND so often he forced 2 complete rebuilds of the Pacers and had you guys trade every 'franchise' player you have had for the past 15 years.

You think a loser 's gonna be let run his mouth like he is a winner cause the corporate machine bought him some rings? He is acting tough now? Whenever it was the time to tough it up he always run. So deal with it
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Post#22 » by LivingLegend » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:42 pm

trueballer7 wrote:
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trueballer7 wrote: Losing to Miami and Clevelands' super teams, is nothing to be ashamed of. Getting sonned by Hendo Turkoglu and asking your corporate sponsors to buy you championships is.


Ahhhh, the default 'yeah but superteams' response--gotta love it.

But hey, at least he beat IND so often he forced 2 complete rebuilds of the Pacers and had you guys trade every 'franchise' player you have had for the past 15 years.

You think a loser 's gonna be let run his mouth like he is a winner cause the corporate machine bought him some rings? He is acting tough now? Whenever it was the time to tough it up he always run. So deal with it


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Post#23 » by johanliebert » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:57 pm

SFour wrote:does the scoring title just go to the highest ppg or do they factor in efficiency and team record

for example if you averaged 40 ppg on 70 shots per game on the worst team in the NBA would you still win the scoring title

edit - nvm got my answer "The National Basketball Association's (NBA) scoring title is awarded to the player with the highest points per game average in a given season"

are you serious lol
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Post#24 » by SFour » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:20 pm

johanliebert wrote:
SFour wrote:does the scoring title just go to the highest ppg or do they factor in efficiency and team record

for example if you averaged 40 ppg on 70 shots per game on the worst team in the NBA would you still win the scoring title

edit - nvm got my answer "The National Basketball Association's (NBA) scoring title is awarded to the player with the highest points per game average in a given season"

are you serious lol


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Post#25 » by Jaqua92 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:25 am

trueballer7 wrote:Lebruns' run must be an all time record for most 30+pt games in defeats. Story of his life, best individual stats whilst getting curbstomped.
I think that's a fault of his playstyle. LeBron ball is top top top tier when surrounded by the right puzzle pieces. But his skillset and style isn't really portable - it just seems that way because he recruits.

LeBron loses because he faces lucky better teams, and plays a super ball heavy statistic heavy style of play where there's one best in the world, and 2 all stars in role playing roles. Unless he has the pieces, there's a ceiling to LeBron ball.

Lebron's strength inside usually come from attacking, but I always felt a legitimate post game and mid range was needed to make LeBron ball more portable.

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Post#26 » by Dan Verze » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:45 am

I think LeBron is chasing this scoring title very hard.
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Post#27 » by giberish » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:52 am

Wonder if we'll see any last-day shenanigans (like Thompson/Gervin)
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Post#28 » by hippesthippo » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:00 am

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trueballer7 wrote:Lebruns' run must be an all time record for most 30+pt games in defeats. Story of his life, best individual stats whilst getting curbstomped.
I think that's a fault of his playstyle. LeBron ball is top top top tier when surrounded by the right puzzle pieces. But his skillset and style isn't really portable - it just seems that way because he recruits.

LeBron loses because he faces lucky better teams, and plays a super ball heavy statistic heavy style of play where there's one best in the world, and 2 all stars in role playing roles. Unless he has the pieces, there's a ceiling to LeBron ball.

Lebron's strength inside usually come from attacking, but I always felt a legitimate post game and mid range was needed to make LeBron ball more portable.

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He's got the post game and mid range. Every major playoff run, there's been times where he has had to turn to it when nothing else is working. Lebron on the right block leads to an open shot for someone almost every single time.

The thing is, for whatever reason, he only pulls it out in "break in case of emergency," type of situations. Not sure if it's because of the wear on his body constantly fighting for post position would invite, or what, but it's there.

Also, the mid range game comes and goes for him, but when it's cooking he can't be defended. Again, it's one of those things I only really see from him in the postseason, but he's definitely got it in his bag.

Of course, he's no Durant in that regard, but he's also 4 times the playmaker KD is, so..

Generally, speaking however, you're right. Lebron ball comes with a lot of requirements to be successful, but when the pieces are in place it's a system that can win Championships.
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Post#29 » by trueballer7 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:48 am

First 20ppg scorer in history to average 30 scoring 10 of 'em in garbage time.
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Post#30 » by Dan Verze » Sun Apr 3, 2022 7:25 am

LBJ 30.3
Giannis 30.1
(Durant 30.1)
Embiid 30.0


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Post#31 » by SunsLyf3 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 7:49 am

Lebrons just trying to get the scoring title so he can tell the Lakers "see, it's not me", despite the fact that this is his hand picked team and he gives 0 effort on defense.
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Post#32 » by Perseus1966 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:16 am

in Europe we have Golden shoe in soccer ,if scorer from germany scores 30 goals then a scorer from Greece must score 61 goals to win the shoe ,because the german soccer is much better than the greek, you got my point?
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Post#33 » by The High Cyde » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:26 am

37 year old LeBron is gonna win this lmao this is still crazy to me, 30 ppg on solid efficiency at that age is nothing to sneeze at. It might not be done again at this age for quite a while if at all.
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Post#34 » by Freighttrain » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:32 am

I don't think I've seen so many scoring title threads as there are now in forever. Only because it's LeBron and people get triggered because he has a chance to get it. Kinda funny though.

I don't even know who won it last year. Was it Beal? Why do we care lmao. "here is LeBron James, 4 times NBA Champ, 4 times Final MVP, 4 times MVP, 19 times all-star, 17 times ALL-NBA, and one-time scoring champ!" :lol:
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Post#35 » by Perseus1966 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:38 am

The High Cyde wrote:37 year old LeBron is gonna win this lmao this is still crazy to me, 30 ppg on solid efficiency at that age is nothing to sneeze at. It might not be done again at this age for quite a while if at all.

i dont think any other gm would gather a bounch of pensioners so one of them win the scoring title.
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Post#36 » by Sofia » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:46 am

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Post#37 » by The High Cyde » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:04 am

Perseus1966 wrote:
The High Cyde wrote:37 year old LeBron is gonna win this lmao this is still crazy to me, 30 ppg on solid efficiency at that age is nothing to sneeze at. It might not be done again at this age for quite a while if at all.

i dont think any other gm would gather a bounch of pensioners so one of them win the scoring title.

They’d never be good enough to.
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Post#38 » by Dan Verze » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:13 am

Johnny Tomala wrote:Durant is out of the scoring title race - player need to play in at least 58 games out of 82. Durant is on 41 games played and Nets have 14 games remaining.

PS * The only exception to this rule will be if, at the end of the season, the player would have led the league in the category had he played the required number of games with his current category total.

For example, if Player A played 56 games and scored 1,590 points (28.4 ppg), Player A could still qualify for the league lead if his average (27.4) with that same point total (1,590) over 58 games was higher than any other player.

A past example: Gerald Wallace collected 138 steals in 55 games (2.51 spg) during the 2005-06 season. Wallace would have still led the league in steals because his average with 58 games (2.38 spg) would have been greater than the 2.28 spg of Brevin Knight, the leader among players who met the 58-game qualifier.

So maybe there is a chance for Durant, but I doubt it.


Again thx for your info, Durant has played 51 now, 4 games left so he will be at 55 if he plays all very little chance that he gets it done
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Post#39 » by Dan Verze » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:17 am

Durant is out, he needs to achieve like 32 PPG, in order to do so, 57ppg the last 4 games
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Post#40 » by JN61 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 2:11 pm

hippesthippo wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
trueballer7 wrote:Lebruns' run must be an all time record for most 30+pt games in defeats. Story of his life, best individual stats whilst getting curbstomped.
I think that's a fault of his playstyle. LeBron ball is top top top tier when surrounded by the right puzzle pieces. But his skillset and style isn't really portable - it just seems that way because he recruits.

LeBron loses because he faces lucky better teams, and plays a super ball heavy statistic heavy style of play where there's one best in the world, and 2 all stars in role playing roles. Unless he has the pieces, there's a ceiling to LeBron ball.

Lebron's strength inside usually come from attacking, but I always felt a legitimate post game and mid range was needed to make LeBron ball more portable.

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He's got the post game and mid range. Every major playoff run, there's been times where he has had to turn to it when nothing else is working. Lebron on the right block leads to an open shot for someone almost every single time.

The thing is, for whatever reason, he only pulls it out in "break in case of emergency," type of situations. Not sure if it's because of the wear on his body constantly fighting for post position would invite, or what, but it's there.

Also, the mid range game comes and goes for him, but when it's cooking he can't be defended. Again, it's one of those things I only really see from him in the postseason, but he's definitely got it in his bag.

Of course, he's no Durant in that regard, but he's also 4 times the playmaker KD is, so..

Generally, speaking however, you're right. Lebron ball comes with a lot of requirements to be successful, but when the pieces are in place it's a system that can win Championships.

Creating 3 point shots after drive is something everyone can do in the NBA. However making easy buckets for your teammates (layups) is something that has never been as huge for LeBron as other elite playmakers of the last decade like Paul and Westbrook.
Sure LeBron is a great playmaker, but he was never great adapting his style to support teams which aren't ideal for his usual drive and kick style. It's perfectly showcased this year.
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