Suns Just Another Team

[NyKnicks1714]

I feel like most people have them as favorites, so I don't agree with the premise.

[Deivork]

Another good question would be, will there be an eastern or a western champion? Seems like the Suns have a clearer path to the finals, but the winner from the East will be extremely battle tested.

[Deivork]

You know, I agree they probably are the most likely champion but in such a wide-open year I take the Field by a wide margin.

[tarantism]

Another good question would be, will there be an eastern or a western champion? Seems like the Suns have a clearer path to the finals, but the winner from the East will be extremely battle tested.

The West is as tough as the East. Nobody has a clean path to the finals except maybe Phoenix in round 1.

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[falcolombardi]

part of it may be that last finals everyone seemed to pick suns over mikwaukee, they were a basketball machine and bucks were seen as a team that got lucky with nets injuries

after bucks outtalented and outdefended the suns i think people overcorrected and now dont trust suns as much

[SkyBill40]

part of it may be that last finals everyone seemed to pick suns over mikwaukee, they were a basketball machine and bucks were seen as a team that got lucky with nets injuries

after bucks outtalented and outdefended the suns i think people overcorrected and now dont trust suns as much

The Suns failed to get stops when they needed them. The officiating was poor for the entire series and Giannis was given free reign to drop his shoulder and smash into people with no fouls called. The refs just swallowed their whistles and let it continue game after game. The disparity in free throw calls was hugely unbalanced as well. It made watching much of it difficult as the favoritism was pretty apparent.

I suppose that could all sound like excuses, but it's hard to accept how things were called across the board.

Regardless, the Bucks hit their stride at just the right time and the Suns failed to get it together. They had it in the bag but collapsed when strength was needed most.

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[dockingsched]

For a team that oddsmakers currently have as the favorite to win the nba title, it’s crazy how some fans consistently think they get disrespected. Not sure what else they want, specially for group of players that have never won a title.

[Slim Charless]

The Suns should be the favorite to come out of the west, but they’re not sexy. CP3 and Booker shooting midrange jumpers isn’t as exciting as Curry making 3s 4 feet beyond the arch. Ayton shooting jump hooks isn’t as exciting as Giannis, Embiid, or Morant dunking over everyone. Having the best 3-9th players on your team and not turning the ball over isn’t compelling tv. If someone made a highlight compilation of Westbrook’s turnovers, Morant’s dunks, Curry’s 3s, and Suns highlights, the Suns highlights wouldn’t get as many views.

They’re not exceeding expectations because they had the best record last year, they’re not the comeback Warriors, the upstart Grizzlies, the Nets with Harden and Embiid, the Nets with Durant/Irving/Simmons, or the train wreck Lakers.

All 5 of those teams are better storylines than the Suns or the Bucks, but talking about how we’ll probably have a rematch of last year’s finals isn’t as exciting as talking about the Grizzlies, Warriors, 76ers, Nets, or Lakers, so that’s who the media will talk about.

Yeah, but even last year the Suns didn't get pub. Everyone ignored them, much the same way this season is going. Look at Booker, he hardly gets talked about.

The most I remember ESPN giving attention to him is when Draymond opened his donkey mouth and said that Book needs to leave. Then there was a bunch of stories about getting him to NYC or LA. Complete trash, which isn't a surprise since it's ESPN.

[Lalouie]

phx hasn't won anything
gsw had with the pedigree they have

[pj0tr]

phx hasn't won anything
gsw had with the pedigree they have

Everyone gonna get mad at you, but this is 100% facts.

Win, and you get respect.

Suns don't deserve respect yet.

[Slim Charless]

part of it may be that last finals everyone seemed to pick suns over mikwaukee, they were a basketball machine and bucks were seen as a team that got lucky with nets injuries

after bucks outtalented and outdefended the suns i think people overcorrected and now dont trust suns as much

The Suns failed to get stops when they needed them. The officiating was poor for the entire series and Giannis was given free reign to drop his shoulder and smash into people with no fouls called. The refs just swallowed their whistles and let it continue game after game. The disparity in free throw calls was hugely unbalanced as well. It made watching much of it difficult as the favoritism was pretty apparent.

I suppose that could all sound like excuses, but it's hard to accept how things were called across the board.

Regardless, the Bucks hit their stride at just the right time and the Suns failed to get it together. They had it in the bag but collapsed when strength was needed most.

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This.

Bucks fans never wanna admit that Giannis is 1 of the most favored players in the entire league. This was on full display in the finals, Phoenix players couldn't look at the dude without getting called for a personal.

In fact, a ref probably just called me for a foul for making this post.

Somewhere Giannis is shooting 2 FTs right now.

[Jadoogar]

Suns are a great team but I dont see them winning a chip. I still think a healthy Lakers can eliminate them in a series but thats asking for too much

If CP3 is out for Round 1, Lakers should and will be favored over the Suns in a 7 game series.

That is why the Suns do not get talked about.

EDIT: Even if CP3 is healthy, the Lakers will have the 2 best players in a series between the Suns by far.

So, why would they be favored? Teams with superstars win in the postseason, and if the Lakers 2 superstars are healthy, well... Suns will not be favored.

lol have you seen this Lakers team?

[realball]

It's because almost all the teams they will face in the playoffs will have the best payer on the court. Curry, Luka, Jokic, KAT, Lebron/AD... only the Jazz and Clippers don't have better first options.

[IamBBAnalysis]

Y'all need to turn your TVs off lol. They can't annoy you if you don't let them.

Suns are comfortably leading the recent RGM poll on who will win the title this year. To me they are the clear faves in the West and at least slight faves to win the championship.

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That is kind of my point though...you just said "slight favorite" and not odd-on favorite.

There are a ton of great teams in the league. And I'm not aware of what CP's status is for the postseason. In any case with so many challenging teams out there I think being the favorites by any degree is pretty cool and a complement.

Also I mean, I'm just one guy. Everyone has their own opinion on these things and you aren't going to change that. If the Suns win the title this year we all all see it with our own eyes and until then what anyone says about it doesn't really mean or change anything. Titles aren't won in the media or on RGM, or in the regular season for that matter.

I'm just saying man, they may have 10 wins more than the next best team, and that is with heavy injuries and guys missing games the last 1/3rd of the season. You sure if it was not Philly that had a 10 game lead over the next best team if everybody wouldn't be saying it is their title to lose?

[IamBBAnalysis]

Suns are a great team but I dont see them winning a chip. I still think a healthy Lakers can eliminate them in a series but thats asking for too much

If CP3 is out for Round 1, Lakers should and will be favored over the Suns in a 7 game series.

That is why the Suns do not get talked about.

EDIT: Even if CP3 is healthy, the Lakers will have the 2 best players in a series between the Suns by far.

So, why would they be favored? Teams with superstars win in the postseason, and if the Lakers 2 superstars are healthy, well... Suns will not be favored.

The Lakers will be favored? That sounds like opinion.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Suns are definitely contenders due to their talent level and leadership from CP3 and Monty Williams. They have a good chance of making the finals again.

However, I would not be surprised if they don't make the finals either- GSW, Memphis, Utah and Denver (if healthy- highly unlikely) could beat them.

Memphis is my dark horse to make the finals. Morant is a total freak and they have a very solid supporting cast. Additionally, they have the confidence to win it as well- they back down for nobody.

[IamBBAnalysis]

You know, I agree they probably are the most likely champion but in such a wide-open year I take the Field by a wide margin.

Again, they will likely have a 10-game lead against the next best team. Just saying. That is like comparing a 50 win team to a 40 win...they are not in the same league. I'm not really saying the Suns will roll or anything like that but WHY is it such an open field and not the Suns and "everyone else"?

[IamBBAnalysis]

part of it may be that last finals everyone seemed to pick suns over mikwaukee, they were a basketball machine and bucks were seen as a team that got lucky with nets injuries

after bucks outtalented and outdefended the suns i think people overcorrected and now dont trust suns as much

That's a good answer.

[RoyceDa59]

When I look to rank the top contenders the first thing I think of is who is their best player. To me that’s the most important factor.

When thinking of the top teams, Suns likely rank last in that category.

Gimme Giannis, Durant, Curry, Embiid, Butler in a 7 game series over Booker or Paul. That said, Suns are extremely well coached and put together, and could very well see them winning it all.

[stormi]

If the Suns met the Bucks in the finals again would we as a consensus expect a different fate?

I don't think I would personally.