Zion is not expected to play this season [Shams]

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Re: Zion is not expected to play this season [Shams] 

Post#21 » by Gasolina » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:43 pm

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Funcrusher wrote:he's not fat, and that's not the reason he couldn't play. You obviously know this. Like im not going to do this with you man, not worth it.


Do you really think there's no link between how heavy he is and his foot injury? C'mon man. Even if his weight had nothing to do with the initial injury, it is surely hindering his rehab process.

well maybe for a period of time (like the beginning of the season) but i can literally confirm it's not currently an issue. Go do some research instead of just blindly speculating, he's with the team again and he doesn't look overweight by any means. The reason he's out for the year is because he had setbacks with the healing of his foot, you can say initially that may have been caused by in part weight issues but that's clearly not the case now, especially considering he's been cleared to ramp up on court activity


Okay but that disputes your claim that "that's not the reason he couldn't play." It clearly was a major factor in his woes this year. Hopefully he can keep his weight under control this next year and actually play some basketball.
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Post#22 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:44 pm

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Post#23 » by Funcrusher » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:48 pm

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Do you really think there's no link between how heavy he is and his foot injury? C'mon man. Even if his weight had nothing to do with the initial injury, it is surely hindering his rehab process.

well maybe for a period of time (like the beginning of the season) but i can literally confirm it's not currently an issue. Go do some research instead of just blindly speculating, he's with the team again and he doesn't look overweight by any means. The reason he's out for the year is because he had setbacks with the healing of his foot, you can say initially that may have been caused by in part weight issues but that's clearly not the case now, especially considering he's been cleared to ramp up on court activity


Okay but that disputes your claim that "that's not the reason he couldn't play." It clearly was a major factor in his woes this year. Hopefully he can keep his weight under control this next year and actually play some basketball.

his actual foot injury is the reason he can't play, that's the point. We don't even know that it wasn't the initial injury itself that made him gain weight, like if he's playing their's not going to be a weight issue
gh123 wrote:Zion lucky if he gets 18 ppg on decent efficiency. Midget big man is a no-career in NBA. Chuck being the only wonder. Zion is the next Tractor Trailer at best.
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Re: Zion is not expected to play this season [Shams] 

Post#24 » by Gasolina » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:51 pm

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Funcrusher wrote:well maybe for a period of time (like the beginning of the season) but i can literally confirm it's not currently an issue. Go do some research instead of just blindly speculating, he's with the team again and he doesn't look overweight by any means. The reason he's out for the year is because he had setbacks with the healing of his foot, you can say initially that may have been caused by in part weight issues but that's clearly not the case now, especially considering he's been cleared to ramp up on court activity


Okay but that disputes your claim that "that's not the reason he couldn't play." It clearly was a major factor in his woes this year. Hopefully he can keep his weight under control this next year and actually play some basketball.

his actual foot injury is the reason he can't play, that's the point. We don't even know that it wasn't the initial injury itself that made him gain weight, like if he's playing their's not going to be a weight issue


And being significantly overweight makes rehabbing a foot injury slower and harder. That's the point.
Again, I hope for the kid that he takes his diet seriously going forward. We all want to see him play. He has to get real with himself though or he'll be out of the league in like 2 years.
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Post#25 » by Smirk » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:06 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:Hello Greg Oden

i mean, unless he gets injured again in the offseason, he's going to play next season. don't you think that's a bit premature a declaration?

Well that seems like a big possibility doesn't it? When he gets that big butt of his off that couch playing video games that foot is sure to fracture again if he can't get his weight dropped by like 50 pounds.


You do realize we have seen him on the court at practice for the past couple of weeks right? he's not fat.

He looks fine and in good shape, probably the best shape he's been in awhile.

He's just not doing 1-1 work yet. I'm glad he's with the team.

He will be fine.
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Post#26 » by PlatinumState » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:17 pm

Im just worried he wont play next season or ever again
Seems like theres always gonna be a issue
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Post#27 » by Lalouie » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:02 pm

this must be a surprise to the media because it was no surpise to me

other than his weight can they tell if he has any structural defects
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Post#28 » by Nate505 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:03 pm

Could have written this headline in September.
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Post#29 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:09 pm

Smirk wrote:
JN61 wrote:
Funcrusher wrote:i mean, unless he gets injured again in the offseason, he's going to play next season. don't you think that's a bit premature a declaration?

Well that seems like a big possibility doesn't it? When he gets that big butt of his off that couch playing video games that foot is sure to fracture again if he can't get his weight dropped by like 50 pounds.


You do realize we have seen him on the court at practice for the past couple of weeks right? he's not fat.

He looks fine and in good shape, probably the best shape he's been in awhile.

He's just not doing 1-1 work yet. I'm glad he's with the team.

He will be fine.


I feel a picture is worth a 1000 words here.
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Post#30 » by ArtMorte » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:19 pm

I'm ready for the "Zion to miss the start of the season" news.
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Post#31 » by Smirk » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:17 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
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JN61 wrote:Well that seems like a big possibility doesn't it? When he gets that big butt of his off that couch playing video games that foot is sure to fracture again if he can't get his weight dropped by like 50 pounds.


You do realize we have seen him on the court at practice for the past couple of weeks right? he's not fat.

He looks fine and in good shape, probably the best shape he's been in awhile.

He's just not doing 1-1 work yet. I'm glad he's with the team.

He will be fine.


I feel a picture is worth a 1000 words here.


I mean there are plenty out there, he's sitting on the bench for Pels home games. You can look at people like Andrew Lopez on twitter and look for practice videos, he has several of Zion on court in the background getting up shots, etc.

The Pelicans main twitter account has posted pics of him at practice when he first came back around two weeks ago.

No one is going to confuse him with Duke Zion, but he looks fine,
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Post#32 » by Mallie » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:24 pm

I'm mostly with the Zion doomsayers on this, but I won't really get into it out of respect for Funcrasher's nickname, being fellow Cann Ox, Co Flow and early El-P fan.
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Post#33 » by dlts20 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:27 pm

He better play for the pels next year. This is the kinda stuff that transforms you from most loved to NBA most hated villain overnight
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Post#34 » by IamBBAnalysis » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:28 pm

Funcrusher wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:Hello Greg Oden

i mean, unless he gets injured again in the offseason, he's going to play next season. don't you think that's a bit premature a declaration?


It's not premature for a comparison. Oden kept trying to play but just kept getting injured. We will see.
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Post#35 » by jpengland » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:36 pm

All is fine. Nothing to see here...

3 years.
85 games
Persistent weight issues

And...

DATE DESCRIPTION
09/27/2021 Foot
05/07/2021 Finger
03/31/2021 Thumb
03/04/2021 Toe
01/13/2021 Health And Safety Protocols
08/10/2020 Knee
07/29/2020 Re-Conditioning
07/22/2020 Personal
02/10/2020 Ankle
02/08/2020 Ankle
10/18/2019 Knee
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Post#36 » by JRoy » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:39 pm

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JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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Post#37 » by Funcrusher » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:48 pm

jpengland wrote:All is fine. Nothing to see here...

3 years.
85 games
Persistent weight issues

And...

DATE DESCRIPTION
09/27/2021 Foot
05/07/2021 Finger
03/31/2021 Thumb
03/04/2021 Toe
01/13/2021 Health And Safety Protocols
08/10/2020 Knee
07/29/2020 Re-Conditioning
07/22/2020 Personal
02/10/2020 Ankle
02/08/2020 Ankle
10/18/2019 Knee

you can't be serious
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Post#38 » by Bologna Smasher » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:50 pm

If he can't get into shape (or stay in shape, whatever the case) for next season, Pelicans should seriously see what they can get for him. Pelicans have been looking pretty good since they picked up McCollum. Their success next season shouldn't depend so much on whether or not Zion takes his health seriously. His issues with staying in New Orleans long term is another headache. They can get pretty much whatever they want for him. Adding a few big pieces to an Ingram/McCollum/Valanciunas core should make them a surefire playoff team.
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Post#39 » by Sane » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:56 pm

Good idea, why add pressure?

He just needs to lose weight and get healthy. Attempting to keep playing with these issues is a recipe for disaster.
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Post#40 » by Dan Z » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:57 pm

If the Pelicans decided to trade Zion what's the highest pick they could get in the upcoming draft?

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