Western Conference | Round 1 | (1) Phoenix Suns VS. (8) New Orleans Pelicans (PHX 3-2)

Johnny Tomala · Post #21 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:32 am

Suns in 5.

Blazing_royale · Post #22 » by **Blazing_royale** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:54 pm

Easy win for suns.

pj0tr · Post #23 » by **pj0tr** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:09 pm

Blazing_royale wrote:Easy win for suns.

I don't think this will be easy. If I had to predict, I'd say Suns in 5. The Pelicans are the one team out of the 4 play-in teams that do excel in both areas where the Suns defense struggles at times - giving up FTs, and offensive rebounds.

Bobbcats · Post #24 » by **Bobbcats** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:35 pm

Green has been to the playoffs with CP3 on 3 different teams, wonder if he knows what can get a CP3 team to crumble.

4-1 Suns is my guess

Phystic · Post #25 » by **Phystic** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:08 pm

sunsbg wrote:
Phystic wrote:
That's ridiculous, team has been focused since day one. But whatever helps you sleep.

Who knew simply saying I did not want to pull Pelicans in the first round would be such a crazy opinion.

Maybe don't use such statements like "don't make sense" and "ridiculous" when your takes make even less sense. Yeah, worse teams beat better teams here and there, in most cases because the better team didn't take the other team too seriously or lost focus.

My take? I didn't have a take until you two started with ridiculous one off statements.

Losing to one team doesn't mean your run wouldn't have happened, it means you lost to one team. Worse teams beat better teams for a host of reasons, one of which is because of matchups. Your original statement wasn't that teams lose due to a lack of focus it was that having an "Easier" 1st round would cause them to lose focus.

Again, not sure how my original post sparked this as I said nothing controversial. Not going to keep back and forth with you two

Post #26 » by **bisme37** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:19 pm

Suns in whatever they want. Which is probably 4 games I would think.

Post #27 » by **bisme37** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:51 pm

Ya know, it just hit me that the Suns locked up the #1 seed weeks ago but were the very last team to know who their opponent is and have the least time to prepare. One of the weird effects of the play-in format.

sunsbg · Post #28 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:12 pm

Phystic wrote:
My take? I didn't have a take until you two started with ridiculous one off statements.

Losing to one team doesn't mean your run wouldn't have happened, it means you lost to one team. Worse teams beat better teams for a host of reasons, one of which is because of matchups. Your original statement wasn't that teams lose due to a lack of focus it was that having an "Easier" 1st round would cause them to lose focus.

Again, not sure how my original post sparked this as I said nothing controversial. Not going to keep back and forth with you two

Calm down. My initial reply was to disagree with your take. The poster had a pretty simple logic - if you can't beat a lesser opponent, most likely you won't beat a better opponent, much less win a title. You said it doesn't make sense when it does. Lesser teams can beat you in a single game, but rarely in a series. In every sport players/teams improve when going against better opposition. Nothing ridiculous about this take as well. You made a big deal out of this.

sunsbg · Post #29 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:27 pm

bisme37 wrote:Ya know, it just hit me that the Suns locked up the #1 seed weeks ago but were the very last team to know who their opponent is and have the least time to prepare. One of the weird effects of the play-in format.

This is some argument that is being brought, but it's not true. Did Pelicans really had a time to prepare for the Suns while trying to survive in the play-in tournament. Suns still had the time to scout them watching them try to make the playoffs.

Post #30 » by **bisme37** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:34 pm

sunsbg wrote:
bisme37 wrote:Ya know, it just hit me that the Suns locked up the #1 seed weeks ago but were the very last team to know who their opponent is and have the least time to prepare. One of the weird effects of the play-in format.

This is some argument that is being brought, but it's not true. Did Pelicans really had a time to prepare for the Suns while trying to survive in the play-in tournament. Suns still had the time to scout them watching them try to make the playoffs.

I feel like you took my comment as some kind of insult to the Suns and I wasn't thinking that at all. As the #1 seed and best team in the league it's just interesting how it worked out that they were the last team to know their opponent. I wasn't trying to make any point other than that.

sunsbg · Post #31 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:39 pm

bisme37 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
bisme37 wrote:Ya know, it just hit me that the Suns locked up the #1 seed weeks ago but were the very last team to know who their opponent is and have the least time to prepare. One of the weird effects of the play-in format.

This is some argument that is being brought, but it's not true. Did Pelicans really had a time to prepare for the Suns while trying to survive in the play-in tournament. Suns still had the time to scout them watching them try to make the playoffs.

I feel like you took my comment as some kind of insult to the Suns and I wasn't thinking that at all. As the #1 seed and best team in the league it's just interesting how it worked out that they were the last team to know their opponent. I wasn't trying to make any point other than that.

Not really. Seen this thrown around by Suns fans as well and honestly don't see how Suns are at any disadvantage when their opponent didn't have the opportunity to prepare as well, while Suns were resting and actually had time to watch tape.

JShuttlesworth · Post #32 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:41 pm

Suns in 5.

coopboii · Post #33 » by **coopboii** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:43 pm

Suns in 5 games, Pels good enough to get a game at home

Post #34 » by **bisme37** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:57 pm

sunsbg wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
This is some argument that is being brought, but it's not true. Did Pelicans really had a time to prepare for the Suns while trying to survive in the play-in tournament. Suns still had the time to scout them watching them try to make the playoffs.

I feel like you took my comment as some kind of insult to the Suns and I wasn't thinking that at all. As the #1 seed and best team in the league it's just interesting how it worked out that they were the last team to know their opponent. I wasn't trying to make any point other than that.

Not really. Seen this thrown around by Suns fans as well and honestly don't see how Suns are at any disadvantage when their opponent didn't have the opportunity to prepare as well, while Suns were resting and actually had time to watch tape.

I didn't say you were at a disadvantage. And my first comment in this thread was the Suns would win in 4 games. If you're grumpy at other Suns fans yell at them lol.

sunsbg · Post #35 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:00 pm

bisme37 wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
I feel like you took my comment as some kind of insult to the Suns and I wasn't thinking that at all. As the #1 seed and best team in the league it's just interesting how it worked out that they were the last team to know their opponent. I wasn't trying to make any point other than that.

Not really. Seen this thrown around by Suns fans as well and honestly don't see how Suns are at any disadvantage when their opponent didn't have the opportunity to prepare as well, while Suns were resting and actually had time to watch tape.

I didn't say you were at a disadvantage. And my first comment in this thread was the Suns would win in 4 games. If you're grumpy at other Suns fans yell at them lol.

I just disagreed. You put words in my mouth and now you are saying I'm yelling while I'm not. Such a weird reply by you and that other guy on this same page.

lonea · Post #36 » by **lonea** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm

Man.. some of you are delusional

This series would goto 5 games AT MOST for the Suns.

The Suns have a 28 games lead on NO.

Regular season ain't a fluke.

Phystic · Post #37 » by **Phystic** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:22 pm

sunsbg wrote:
Phystic wrote:
My take? I didn't have a take until you two started with ridiculous one off statements.

Losing to one team doesn't mean your run wouldn't have happened, it means you lost to one team. Worse teams beat better teams for a host of reasons, one of which is because of matchups. Your original statement wasn't that teams lose due to a lack of focus it was that having an "Easier" 1st round would cause them to lose focus.

Again, not sure how my original post sparked this as I said nothing controversial. Not going to keep back and forth with you two

Calm down. My initial reply was to disagree with your take. The poster had a pretty simple logic - if you can't beat a lesser opponent, most likely you won't beat a better opponent, much less win a title. You said it doesn't make sense when it does. Lesser teams can beat you in a single game, but rarely in a series. In every sport players/teams improve when going against better opposition. Nothing ridiculous about this take as well. You made a big deal out of this.

Im perfectly calm. And I didn't make anything a big deal. I made a simple comment. Made no mention of the Suns losing or being worse than the Pelicans. Both of you inferred something that wasn't there.

I'll just leave it here. There's no debate to be had here.

Phystic · Post #38 » by **Phystic** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:23 pm

bisme37 wrote:Ya know, it just hit me that the Suns locked up the #1 seed weeks ago but were the very last team to know who their opponent is and have the least time to prepare. One of the weird effects of the play-in format.

Was just thinking this the other day. Odd side effect of the playin that it's a slight "negative" for the #1 team

Phystic · Post #39 » by **Phystic** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:25 pm

lonea wrote:Man.. some of you are delusional

This series would goto 5 games AT MOST for the Suns.

The Suns have a 28 games lead on NO.

Regular season ain't a fluke.

I agree to a degree. Regular season also isn't indicative of the teams as they currently are. Pelicans got CJ midseason and BI missed a lot of the second half.

I wouldn't say the Pelicans are a typical .500 8th seed type of team

lonea · Post #40 » by **lonea** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:33 pm

If that's the argument then you also need to look at all the games Booker, CP, Ayton, Cam Johnson, Cam Payne, Crowder missed during the regular season.

The Suns weren't exactly a healthy team.

Phystic wrote:
lonea wrote:Man.. some of you are delusional

This series would goto 5 games AT MOST for the Suns.

The Suns have a 28 games lead on NO.

Regular season ain't a fluke.

I agree to a degree. Regular season also isn't indicative of the teams as they currently are. Pelicans got CJ midseason and BI missed a lot of the second half.

I wouldn't say the Pelicans are a typical .500 8th seed type of team

Who wins the series?