Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson?

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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#21 » by Swish1906 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:55 am

Brunsons problem is there arent many teams with capspace and a glaring hole at PG...so he cant really play that card. But i think at the end they agree to a far amount for both sides. 22-23m...
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#22 » by HotelVitale » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:56 am

KhalilS wrote:Mavs have the lowest payroll in the last 5 years, and have 30 millions in expiring next year, money will not be an issue


Maybe but not sure it's that easy. They'd be close to the league's biggest payroll next year at around $180m--$65m over the tax line--and even if they have some expiring folks the year after some of them might be pretty essential to the Mavs staying contenders.

I think they'll keep Brunson but might well have to start dumping guys or making some hard decisions almost immediately.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#23 » by OkcSinceSGA » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:58 am

I’ve been wanting him on my team since before his rookie year. He’s gonna be like a better Damon Stoudemire etc. A very smart, floor general, consistent double double type PG that is consistently looked over, but can outplay his matchup any given night and come up with electrifying plays+ Big shots.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#24 » by Flash4thewin » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:59 am

zimpy27 wrote:I think he will get $104m-116m over 4 years, which is 20-22% of the salary cap.

Dallas can offer the 8% raises or the 5 years..


over 100 mil for sure. That 4/90 deal seems unrealistic after these playoff performances.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#25 » by zimpy27 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:07 am

Swish1906 wrote:Brunsons problem is there arent many teams with capspace and a glaring hole at PG...so he cant really play that card. But i think at the end they agree to a far amount for both sides. 22-23m...


Dallas have the ability to offer 5 years and 8% raises which means his salary next year doesn't need to be as high compared to bids from other teams.

Dallas could offer a salary of $22.4m in 22-23 that would end up being a 5 year $130m deal.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#26 » by Big J » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:15 am

Be funny if he becomes Nash 2.0 after Mavs let him go.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#27 » by Onlytimewilltel » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:20 am

OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:I’ve been wanting him on my team since before his rookie year. He’s gonna be like a better Damon Stoudemire etc. A very smart, floor general, consistent double double type PG that is consistently looked over, but can outplay his matchup any given night and come up with electrifying plays+ Big shots.


The Mighty Mouse was legit when healthy. If Brunson is going to be a better Damon, that’s pretty damn good lol.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#28 » by dygaction » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:22 am

He will stay as a Mavs unless there is a sign and trade for a Bridges or Siakam level player
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#29 » by HotRocks34 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:26 am

Swish1906 wrote:They will re-sign him and trade THJ.and try to dump the 10m of Burke/Boban/Brown with tanking teams.



I have not watched the team much of late, but I've heard Powell has been really key recently.

I say that because, before Powell's apparent recent surge, my feeling was to try to dump Powell and Timmy in the offseason. Nothing against either guy, I just don't think they're worth (or weren't worth) their contracts.

Brunson needs to stay, IMO. So dump what you have to in order to retain him.

I'd still look to get out from Timmy's contract, but maybe Powell should stick around.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#30 » by Patches Perry » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:30 am

He is a great secondary ball handler. I have liked his game since day 1, but he also plays a highly saturated position so that has to be a factor in the market. Hopefully Brunson and the Mavericks can reach a reasonable deal where he gets paid but also doesn't break the bank for Dallas.
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Post#31 » by bstein14 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:33 am

Pistons want to pair him in the backcourt with Cade. They called and asked about trading for him at the deadline, but Dallas pretty much said "sure we like Cade" and that was the end of that.

I previously expected Weaver to come in and offer 4 years and $80+ million but now think it might take closer to $100 million to make it happen.

Maybe Detroit works a Kelly Olynyk for Tim Hardaway Jr trade and lets Dallas keep their guy instead of offering Brunson a huge deal.
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Post#32 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:46 am

dygaction wrote:He will stay as a Mavs unless there is a sign and trade for a Bridges or Siakam level player


Neither team would trade those players for him, I don't think any team would trade their 1a or even their 2 for him
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#33 » by dygaction » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:51 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
dygaction wrote:He will stay as a Mavs unless there is a sign and trade for a Bridges or Siakam level player


Neither team would trade those players for him, I don't think any team would trade their 1a or even their 2 for him



Not saying they will. Just saying keep Brunson if there is no real good deal and don't lose him to free agency.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#34 » by Mavrelous » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:51 am

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KhalilS wrote:Mavs have the lowest payroll in the last 5 years, and have 30 millions in expiring next year, money will not be an issue


Maybe but not sure it's that easy. They'd be close to the league's biggest payroll next year at around $180m--$65m over the tax line--and even if they have some expiring folks the year after some of them might be pretty essential to the Mavs staying contenders.

I think they'll keep Brunson but might well have to start dumping guys or making some hard decisions almost immediately.

170, not crazy for a single season, I don't think it's an issue, they saved a lot in the last 5 seasons.
The cap is going significantly higher in 2 years.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#35 » by DroseReturnChi » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:52 am

zimpy27 wrote:Dallas will keep Brunsons.. They likely trade their FRP with Bertans for a team to take on his contract.


personally i want him gone for a legit number 2 like AD. hes overrated. Sign and trade is more likely.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#36 » by benultimate » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:55 am

Someone refresh my memory: he's unrestricted because he was a second rounder? So despite getting a 4 year contract effectively like a 1st rounder, there's no free agency restriction at the end?

What could Dallas have done in the meantime? No eligibility for an extension at any point?

Seems like a tough by-product of giving a 2nd rounder a 4 year deal. Sure they got great, cheap production out of him for 4 years. But now they could be losing him for nothing just as he's entering his prime.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#37 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:55 am

As a Mav guy I don't wanna give him 100. I guess you could talk me into a 5yr 100 mill deal but anything more would be too much imo. You'd be much more comfortable with him in the 15-18mill range. With that said you can't let him walk.

THJ and Bertans needs to go but I don't see how you trade both in a summer. Ones injured and overpaid, the other one kinda sucks and overpaid.

Getting rid of THJ and or Bertans should be the 1st priority tho
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#38 » by DroseReturnChi » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:58 am

Big J wrote:Be funny if he becomes Nash 2.0 after Mavs let him go.


yeah lets not compare those 2. its blasphemous to nash. brunson isnt even a high pick to have that kind of potential.
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Post#39 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:00 am

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zimpy27 wrote:Dallas will keep Brunsons.. They likely trade their FRP with Bertans for a team to take on his contract.


personally i want him gone for a legit number 2 like AD. hes overrated. Sign and trade is more likely.
Harden, AD, Dame, Beal tier bring me anyone who was a star yet overpaid Luka will carry their slack.


You know you're not getting that type of player for Brunson.
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Re: Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson? 

Post#40 » by zeebneeb » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:03 am

bstein14 wrote:Pistons want to pair him in the backcourt with Cade. They called and asked about trading for him at the deadline, but Dallas pretty much said "sure we like Cade" and that was the end of that.

I previously expected Weaver to come in and offer 4 years and $80+ million but now think it might take closer to $100 million to make it happen.

Maybe Detroit works a Kelly Olynyk for Tim Hardaway Jr trade and lets Dallas keep their guy instead of offering Brunson a huge deal.
Yup. Dallas is going to have to do some major book work to keep him, as I expect Weaver to come in with a huge offer. Pairing a budding star like Cade with Brunson in the backcourt is highly appealing, especially with a top pick coming in again this year, and if it's top three, the Pistons could be real good, real fast. Good selling point to Brunson, as well as a massive bag.

The sharks are gonna be circling for sure.

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