JR Smith named Academic Athlete of the Year (4.0 GPA)

[Curmudgeon]

I bet his major isn't engineering.

[dhsilv2]

Damn, and he looks high in the photo too.

Nice, 4.0 GPA and you're still putting him in a box

Based on the number of med school students and even doctors I knew/know who smoked pretty much daily...It seems like high praise.

[dhsilv2]

Damn, and he looks high in the photo too.

Nice, 4.0 GPA and you're still putting him in a box

4.0 GPA for a famous, millionaire ex-athlete is probably the equivalent of a 3.0 GPA for your average student.

Don't tell me JR Smith isn't getting some serious breaks here.

Look at all of the supposed 'college' educated athletes across all the sports that have college programs. Many of those guys would never have made college, let alone passed a single grade if they were your average person.

There's no meritocracy for athletes in college - well there is, but it's not the kind earned at the desk.

I'll give it to JR though, even if that 4.0 GPA is equivalent to a 3.0 it's pretty good, and more than I would have expected given what we've seen from him in his career. Clearly he's not dumb. But I need more data before I crown him a top 5% mental performer, like a 4.0 would imply.

@Lockdown504090 made a good point. Athletes know how to work hard. I can see how someone like Jr with a lot of time, money and top notch work ethic could do this regardless of how he presents himself on court - assuming this isn't law school.

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

[Snakebites]

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Err...not sure what college you went to or major you were in, but this is pretty far off from my experience.

[ishoy123]

What's GPA and how impressive is JR Smith's accomplishment to put some perspective?

People on here like OP think because he's black its shocking that he got a 4.0 and need to point it out.

They look at him like he's a puppy that did a trick that deserves a treat.

It's because he has a reputation for not very smart bball playing and general laziness (Smith himself even made fun of it before). You're the one making it about race.

[dhsilv2]

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Err...not sure what college you went to or major you were in, but this is pretty far off from my experience.

Unless you're in perhaps engineering or some other STIM or maybe art school which I never really understood, college is pretty dang easy man! Mind you, I did major in finance was certainly not a difficult or mentally stimulating field.

[bamheat]

What's GPA and how impressive is JR Smith's accomplishment to put some perspective?

People on here like OP think because he's black its shocking that he got a 4.0 and need to point it out.

They look at him like he's a puppy that did a trick that deserves a treat.

Not sure how you managed to bring race into this. A 4.0 GPA IS impressive, whether that's Tom Brady or JR Smith. You don't think if C Ronaldo got a 4.0 GPA it would be worth of a thread?

You know damn well no ones making a thread about Ronaldos academics.

Come on

[SecondTake]

Nice, 4.0 GPA and you're still putting him in a box

4.0 GPA for a famous, millionaire ex-athlete is probably the equivalent of a 3.0 GPA for your average student.

Don't tell me JR Smith isn't getting some serious breaks here.

Look at all of the supposed 'college' educated athletes across all the sports that have college programs. Many of those guys would never have made college, let alone passed a single grade if they were your average person.

There's no meritocracy for athletes in college - well there is, but it's not the kind earned at the desk.

I'll give it to JR though, even if that 4.0 GPA is equivalent to a 3.0 it's pretty good, and more than I would have expected given what we've seen from him in his career. Clearly he's not dumb. But I need more data before I crown him a top 5% mental performer, like a 4.0 would imply.

@Lockdown504090 made a good point. Athletes know how to work hard. I can see how someone like Jr with a lot of time, money and top notch work ethic could do this regardless of how he presents himself on court - assuming this isn't law school.

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Damn, is the American education system lenient in grading? A 4.0 would be the equivalent of straight A's here, and only 2 people in my class did that. A lot of the smartest people come out of the US system, so I'm kind of surprised how they rise to the top if straight A's are that simple to get. Would be helpful to know his major I suppose.

[Big J]

Probably paid someone to do his work for him. J.R. Smith isn’t writing college essays, lol, cmon man.

[SecondTake]

People on here like OP think because he's black its shocking that he got a 4.0 and need to point it out.

They look at him like he's a puppy that did a trick that deserves a treat.

Not sure how you managed to bring race into this. A 4.0 GPA IS impressive, whether that's Tom Brady or JR Smith. You don't think if C Ronaldo got a 4.0 GPA it would be worth of a thread?

You know damn well no ones making a thread about Ronaldos academics.

Come on

You're kidding right? If Ronaldo quit soccer, when to college and got straight A's on his path to becoming a doctor, you don't think that would be news?

[vital_signs]

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Err...not sure what college you went to or major you were in, but this is pretty far off from my experience.

Seriously, I went to a mid-grade state university and it isn't all about the work you put in. Quite frankly there were some courses I just naturally struggled at and busted my way to a B-. This isn't some online university being advertised during Maury commercials.

[Lockdown504090]

4.0 GPA for a famous, millionaire ex-athlete is probably the equivalent of a 3.0 GPA for your average student.

Don't tell me JR Smith isn't getting some serious breaks here.

Look at all of the supposed 'college' educated athletes across all the sports that have college programs. Many of those guys would never have made college, let alone passed a single grade if they were your average person.

There's no meritocracy for athletes in college - well there is, but it's not the kind earned at the desk.

the mans been tweeting about school for the last year, doing tutoring and group study for the past year, hes not making it up. yeah, rich people have more resources to do better in school. Welcome to America.

Fair enough, you don't get into the NBA if you don't work hard. What is he studying?

bs lib arts degree, but him actually doing the work sets a great example. Jr is an enigma. i dont think anyone can call him a lazy guy, he had great work ethic in the nba, but he gives off seriously lazy guy vibes so i dont blame anyone for jumping to conclusions.

[tsherkin]

I bet his major isn't engineering.

His major is liberal studies, and he's competing on the golf team.

[tsherkin]

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Err...not sure what college you went to or major you were in, but this is pretty far off from my experience.

Seriously, I went to a mid-grade state university and it isn't all about the work you put in. Quite frankly there were some courses I just naturally struggled at and busted my way to a B-. This isn't some online university being advertised during Maury commercials.

I think it ultimately depends very, very heavily on the courses involved. And in some instances, on the professors teaching those courses and what opinions they often want you to spit back.

[WestGOAT]

4.0 GPA for a famous, millionaire ex-athlete is probably the equivalent of a 3.0 GPA for your average student.

Don't tell me JR Smith isn't getting some serious breaks here.

Look at all of the supposed 'college' educated athletes across all the sports that have college programs. Many of those guys would never have made college, let alone passed a single grade if they were your average person.

There's no meritocracy for athletes in college - well there is, but it's not the kind earned at the desk.

I'll give it to JR though, even if that 4.0 GPA is equivalent to a 3.0 it's pretty good, and more than I would have expected given what we've seen from him in his career. Clearly he's not dumb. But I need more data before I crown him a top 5% mental performer, like a 4.0 would imply.

@Lockdown504090 made a good point. Athletes know how to work hard. I can see how someone like Jr with a lot of time, money and top notch work ethic could do this regardless of how he presents himself on court - assuming this isn't law school.

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Damn, is the American education system lenient in grading? A 4.0 would be the equivalent of straight A's here, and only 2 people in my class did that. A lot of the smartest people come out of the US system, so I'm kind of surprised how they rise to the top if straight A's are that simple to get. Would be helpful to know his major I suppose.

Yea not sure how I can compare this at all. I did a stem degree in Europe and we just use a point system from 1 to 10. 10 is a perfect score and even the best students averaged between an 8 and a 9. That'd be a B+ / A - if I do a literal conversion.

Also curious to know which subjects J.R did. No disrespect meant, but some subjects are inherently more complex than others.

[-Luke-]

Funny that someone brought up Cristiano Ronaldo. Doesn't he have a bachelor's degree and wrote his bachelor thesis about his own life or something like that?

[SecondTake]

Funny that someone brought up Cristiano Ronaldo. Doesn't he have a bachelor's degree and wrote his bachelor thesis about his own life or something like that?

No, I dont think so. I think you're thinking about the 4 year degree program in Canada where you study how important Ronaldo is to humanity.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2941476/Cristiano-Ronaldo-add-degree-repertoire-Candian-university-begins-four-year-course-dedicated-star.html

[infinite11285]

All, bamheat was removed from the discussion for hijacking the thread with racially charged statements. Please continue with the topic at hand and ignore those posts.

[dhsilv2]

4.0 GPA for a famous, millionaire ex-athlete is probably the equivalent of a 3.0 GPA for your average student.

Don't tell me JR Smith isn't getting some serious breaks here.

Look at all of the supposed 'college' educated athletes across all the sports that have college programs. Many of those guys would never have made college, let alone passed a single grade if they were your average person.

There's no meritocracy for athletes in college - well there is, but it's not the kind earned at the desk.

I'll give it to JR though, even if that 4.0 GPA is equivalent to a 3.0 it's pretty good, and more than I would have expected given what we've seen from him in his career. Clearly he's not dumb. But I need more data before I crown him a top 5% mental performer, like a 4.0 would imply.

@Lockdown504090 made a good point. Athletes know how to work hard. I can see how someone like Jr with a lot of time, money and top notch work ethic could do this regardless of how he presents himself on court - assuming this isn't law school.

A 4.0 in undergrad is like 99% if you show up and do the work....something 99% of college students don't do. Hell, I had classes I don't think I attended even 3 times outside of the tests.

Damn, is the American education system lenient in grading? A 4.0 would be the equivalent of straight A's here, and only 2 people in my class did that. A lot of the smartest people come out of the US system, so I'm kind of surprised how they rise to the top if straight A's are that simple to get. Would be helpful to know his major I suppose.

a 4.0 is straight A's and to do that for 4 years is pretty impressive in most majors. But if he's in his first 2 years, most of those classes are designed to have most people 3.5 or better GPAs. As it's hard to get a job out of school without well over a 3.0...so schools inflate grades to assure that happens.

Grades and IQ I doubt have any real correlation. MAJORS and IQ's likely have a HUGE correlation. Good grades means you picked a major you're smart enough to complete and you put in the work.

[TravisScott55]

This thread went off the rails fast