Kerr just absolutely embarrassed Jason Kidd...

JB2 · Post #21 » by **JB2** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:52 am

DeBrick wrote:I have no doubt if both of them PLAYED Kidd would be embarassing Kerr

Mavs fans should take great comfort in this post...

Branduil · Post #22 » by **Branduil** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:52 am

I'm not sure how Kidd lost this game. Both centers were completely terrible and got annihilated by Looney, there's nothing Kidd can do about that unless you think bringing in Chriss is the answer.

Scottie15 · Post #23 » by **Scottie15** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:52 am

Castle Black wrote:There were a handful of warriors fans in the game thread who panicked in the first half and said that Dallas was going to win the series . Pretty funny.

Yea that never happened but ok

bradybunch · Post #24 » by **bradybunch** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:55 am

Branduil wrote:I'm not sure how Kidd lost this game. Both centers were completely terrible and got annihilated by Looney, there's nothing Kidd can do about that unless you think bringing in Chriss is the answer.

I literally explained it.

Come on.

Luka brought the ball up the majority of the 3rd with Wiggins hounding him for 94 feet. Luka's energy was drained instead of conserved. In the first half, it was the opposite as Luka took turns playing off the ball. And Kidd never called a proper timeout to adjust and stop the bleeding. They got GS into the bonus and Kidd should've demanded Luka go to the post and the team attack the rim.

Gorilla Monsoon · Post #25 » by **Gorilla Monsoon** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:56 am

FNQ wrote:Sorry but I'm invoking the Bret Hart rule

Jason Kidd screwed Jason Kidd

And1 for referencing the greatest wrestler of all time.

Post #26 » by **FNQ** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:56 am

LAL1947 wrote:Kidd did okay. He can't play in place of Kleber, Green, Frank, DFS, Bullock... which is what the Mavs really needed, someone like Kidd out there (with brains) to control the game. There's a lot of 3&D in this group I named with nothing in between the 3&D. Maybe a few more timeouts in the 3rd quarter might have helped, reminding them to play smart instead of living and dying by the three.

Another problem with the Mavs is their 2nd option is Brunson and/or Dinwiddie. Those guys can do some good things but then fall off for large, important periods of time. Mavs need a better 2nd option who is something like the equivalent of Brunson's best qualities + Dinwiddie's best qualities rolled into one player... and then have either Brunson or Dinwiddie as an option to bring off the bench. They also need a rim protector / shot blocker. That's when they'll be true title contenders.

He can tell Luka who to hunt though
In the first game, Luka did well below his average on Wiggins/Looney. He didnt do much on Klay either. But on Curry that was the best target for sure

Q1 and Q2 Luka hunted Curry and Klay. Huge success.

Q3, he hunts Looney. It doesnt work, so he keeps hunting Looney. And it affects the whole offense because now the Warriors have their 4 quickest players cycling and playing help defense. Its exactly what we want. And he kept doing it.

Could the Mavs role players have done better? Absolutely. But Kidd got cute and tried to stay a step ahead of our defense, and instead played right into our hands

DaPessimist · Post #27 » by **DaPessimist** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:57 am

Mavs just need more bench players standing on the court.

And to hit more 3's.

rapstarter · Post #28 » by **rapstarter** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:01 am

FNQ wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:Kidd did okay. He can't play in place of Kleber, Green, Frank, DFS, Bullock... which is what the Mavs really needed, someone like Kidd out there (with brains) to control the game. There's a lot of 3&D in this group I named with nothing in between the 3&D. Maybe a few more timeouts in the 3rd quarter might have helped, reminding them to play smart instead of living and dying by the three.

Another problem with the Mavs is their 2nd option is Brunson and/or Dinwiddie. Those guys can do some good things but then fall off for large, important periods of time. Mavs need a better 2nd option who is something like the equivalent of Brunson's best qualities + Dinwiddie's best qualities rolled into one player... and then have either Brunson or Dinwiddie as an option to bring off the bench. They also need a rim protector / shot blocker. That's when they'll be true title contenders.

He can tell Luka who to hunt though
In the first game, Luka did well below his average on Wiggins/Looney. He didnt do much on Klay either. But on Curry that was the best target for sure

Q1 and Q2 Luka hunted Curry and Klay. Huge success.

Q3, he hunts Looney. It doesnt work, so he keeps hunting Looney. And it affects the whole offense because now the Warriors have their 4 quickest players cycling and playing help defense. Its exactly what we want. And he kept doing it.

Could the Mavs role players have done better? Absolutely. But Kidd got cute and tried to stay a step ahead of our defense, and instead played right into our hands

They kept getting wide open looks from the three even in that 3rd Q. It's just that they reverted to the mean. What made the 2nd Q great for them was they shot 8/11 from the 3 which is not sustainable regardless of shot quality.

Anyways, I think the offense was fine. This is a heavily three point dependent team and getting open looks is all they can ask for. It was defense that was a major issue for them. They basically had no answer once their perimeter players got beat.

Post #29 » by **FNQ** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:03 am

rapstarter wrote:
FNQ wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:Kidd did okay. He can't play in place of Kleber, Green, Frank, DFS, Bullock... which is what the Mavs really needed, someone like Kidd out there (with brains) to control the game. There's a lot of 3&D in this group I named with nothing in between the 3&D. Maybe a few more timeouts in the 3rd quarter might have helped, reminding them to play smart instead of living and dying by the three.

Another problem with the Mavs is their 2nd option is Brunson and/or Dinwiddie. Those guys can do some good things but then fall off for large, important periods of time. Mavs need a better 2nd option who is something like the equivalent of Brunson's best qualities + Dinwiddie's best qualities rolled into one player... and then have either Brunson or Dinwiddie as an option to bring off the bench. They also need a rim protector / shot blocker. That's when they'll be true title contenders.

He can tell Luka who to hunt though
In the first game, Luka did well below his average on Wiggins/Looney. He didnt do much on Klay either. But on Curry that was the best target for sure

Q1 and Q2 Luka hunted Curry and Klay. Huge success.

Q3, he hunts Looney. It doesnt work, so he keeps hunting Looney. And it affects the whole offense because now the Warriors have their 4 quickest players cycling and playing help defense. Its exactly what we want. And he kept doing it.

Could the Mavs role players have done better? Absolutely. But Kidd got cute and tried to stay a step ahead of our defense, and instead played right into our hands

They kept getting wide open looks from the three even in that 3rd Q. It's just that they reverted to the mean. What made the 2nd Q great for them was they shot 8/11 from the 3 which is not sustainable regardless of shot quality.

Anyways, I think the offense was fine. This is a heavily three point dependent team. Getting open looks is all they can ask for. It was defense that was a major issue for them. They basically had no answer once their perimeter players got beat.

There's of course that, but the defensive pressure, and where it comes from, matters. Look at Q1/2, they ran a basic pick and pop repeatedly when Luka was in the game, Bullock/Brunson/DFS were getting wide open looks with no Warriors in front of them. Thats key, because Klay was off in the corner thinking about boats or some **** so Curry had to close from the side after trying to hedge on Luka

Q3 rolls around and they get Luka on Looney, who they try and iso instead. No more pick and pops, they tried inside-out at that point, and that means the Warriors defender is now coming head on with a challenge instead out of frame on the left or right. Easier to disrupt

Wolfgang630 · Post #30 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:05 am

That third quarter was just trash

Scalabrine · Post #31 » by **Scalabrine** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:05 am

bradybunch wrote:
Castle Black wrote:There were a handful of warriors fans in the game thread who panicked in the first half and said that Dallas was going to win the series . Pretty funny.

Not with Kidd coaching.

Who???

Oh... you mean numbnuts?!

nzahir · Post #32 » by **nzahir** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:11 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

The best?

Better than Nurse, Spo, Lue and Pop?

Monty?

Got a loaded team with a lot of shooters and really high IQ guys

Remember what Luke Walton did there and then what he has done since...

Gramercy Riffs · Post #33 » by **Gramercy Riffs** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:11 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

It's true. After watching Mike Brown coach this team, Kerr's influence is massive.

Gramercy Riffs · Post #34 » by **Gramercy Riffs** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:14 am

nzahir wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

The best?

Better than Nurse, Spo, Lue and Pop?

Monty?

Got a loaded team with a lot of shooters and really high IQ guys

Remember what Luke Walton did there and then what he has done since...

The Warriors are both old and unathletic and too young and inexperienced. Our wins and losses are the result of scheme and adjustments more than any other team in the NBA which means Kerr's influence is greater than any other coach.

So yes, Kerr is the best coach in the NBA and has been the whole time he's been here.

Almond2Oak · Post #35 » by **Almond2Oak** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:24 am

Gramercy Riffs wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

It's true. After watching Mike Brown coach this team, Kerr's influence is massive.

RIP to the Queens the next 2 maybe 3 years, rinse, wash, repeat. How Mike Brown has ANOTHER head coaching job is insanity.

dc · Post #36 » by dc » Sat May 21, 2022 4:28 am

nzahir wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

The best?

Better than Nurse, Spo, Lue and Pop?

Monty?

Got a loaded team with a lot of shooters and really high IQ guys

Remember what Luke Walton did there and then what he has done since...

Monty wasn't very good these playoffs TBH. Willie Green was outdoing him for a good portion of the 1st round with a far less experienced squad that had to go through the play in. They needed 36 year old Chris Paul to go God mode in 3 games to put away the Pels.

Also, when Walton was at GS and on the sidelines in Kerr's place, it wasn't as if Kerr wasn't doing anything. He was still in practices and he was sitting down with Walton before games and consulting him. He was doing everything behind the scenes....just not on the sidelines during the games.

And really, wind the clock back to 2014 after the Warriors lost in the 1st round. Was anyone saying that Kerr was inheriting some kind of dynasty? Was anyone saying, "Boy if KD joins that team, it's going to be totally unfair"? No, most people back then would've said that no way would KD leave his OKC team for a less talented Warriors team.

Sofia · Post #37 » by **Sofia** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:30 am

Scott Foster getting warmed up for Game 3

Pachinko_ · Post #38 » by **Pachinko_** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:30 am

I mean the strategy around hunting matchups on each side was important for sure, but there was a very long stretch that the Mavs simply missed like a dozen wide open shots. To me that was the most important thing that turned the game around. They went from shooting 60% from three to shooting 15% in the third.

Impuniti · Post #39 » by **Impuniti** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:32 am

nzahir wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

The best?

Better than Nurse, Spo, Lue and Pop?

Monty?

Got a loaded team with a lot of shooters and really high IQ guys

Remember what Luke Walton did there and then what he has done since...

Pop is no longer in the conversation and as good as Monty is, guy makes zero counter adjustments in a series. Not on the level of Kerr & the others you mentioned.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #40 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sat May 21, 2022 4:34 am

nzahir wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Kerr is the best coach in the league and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Kidd has really improved though. Kudos to him.

The best?

Better than Nurse, Spo, Lue and Pop?

Monty?

Got a loaded team with a lot of shooters and really high IQ guys

Remember what Luke Walton did there and then what he has done since...

Yes pretty easily.

Nurse has one Championship. And it came through trading for a Superstar who did everything and already had won.

Spo has 2 with the 2nd greatest player ever in his prime.

Lue has 1 with LeBron at his apex.

Pop is past his prime.

Monty is not even in the discussion.

Luke Walton did nothing but keep the Ws afloat on Kerr's system for half the season.

Kerr created the Warriors entire system. They were on a path to nowhere before he got there. A first round exit that was regressing.

Him and Curry are the ones responsible for the dynasty. Kerr transformed them into a perennial contender based on his system.