Top 3 Lakers Peaks?

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Re: Top 3 Lakers Peaks? 

Post#21 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Sat May 28, 2022 6:23 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:Well LeBron is obviously not in. Not a knock on LeBron, it's just the Lakers have so many chips.

Wilt was past his prime with the Lakers, so I'll pass on him. Same for Kareem.

I think you give one to Magic (84-85), one to Shaq (2000), one to Kobe (2008-2009).


As a Laker fan since Magic’s rookie year, this is exactly right.

Magic 1985-88
Shaq 2000-2002
Kobe 2006-10

Those are the peaks any Laker player has hit in my lifetime.

Honestly I believe the most dominant was Shaq from 2000-2002. I don’t know if any player in the history of the game was beating him during that stretch when he was in shape and motivated. Not Jordan, not LeBron, not Kareem, not Hakeem, not Russell. He only lasted 3 years at that peak but my goodness he was impossible to deal with.

Abs honestly Magic’s peak probably runs through 89 as well. We Lakers fans try to forget that year but he was amazing until he got hurt early in the finals.
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Post#22 » by Freighttrain » Sat May 28, 2022 6:26 pm

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I'm always confused with these kinds of calculations. Everything is so much different than 20 years ago. How do you just measure it by possessions and calculate it that way? Is physicality calculated in it? How about speed? I think it's always miscued to use that basic analogy
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Post#23 » by dhsilv2 » Sat May 28, 2022 6:36 pm

70sFan wrote:My top 5:

1. 1977 Kareem
2. 2000 Shaq
3. 1952 Mikan
4. 1987 Magic
5. 1966 West

HM: 2008 Kobe, 2020 LeBron, 1972 Wilt


I forgot about pre 80 kareem...good call! ANd yes, I'd have west ahead of Kobe/Lebron/Wilt here as well.
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Post#24 » by dhsilv2 » Sat May 28, 2022 6:37 pm

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I'm always confused with these kinds of calculations. Everything is so much different than 20 years ago. How do you just measure it by possessions and calculate it that way? Is physicality calculated in it? How about speed? I think it's always miscued to use that basic analogy


They took their PER 100 scoring, adjusted to this year's league average pace, and then took their playing minutes from that era. It's a complete joke.
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Post#25 » by OdomFan » Sat May 28, 2022 6:42 pm

1. Kobe
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. West
5. Shaq
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Post#26 » by AleksandarN » Sat May 28, 2022 10:33 pm

Lebron 2020 top 3??

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Post#27 » by TheLand13 » Sat May 28, 2022 11:27 pm

Ni Da Ye wrote:Lebron's Disney ring was not even a legit championship.


It was. So with these moronic takes.
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Post#28 » by tsherkin » Sat May 28, 2022 11:39 pm

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Kareem won 2 MVPs with the Lakers and I've seen people put 77 as his peak season.



Three. He won 3 MVPs with LA. 76, 77 and 80.
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Post#29 » by tsherkin » Sat May 28, 2022 11:41 pm

Ni Da Ye wrote:Lebron's Disney ring was not even a legit championship.


LOL
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Post#30 » by letskissbro » Sun May 29, 2022 12:21 am

Shaq, Kareem, LeBron
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Post#31 » by An Unbiased Fan » Sun May 29, 2022 12:34 am

Shaq
Kobe
Magic

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Post#32 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun May 29, 2022 1:11 am

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Ni Da Ye wrote:Lebron's Disney ring was not even a legit championship.


LOL


I just wonder how close he was to calling it a "mickey mouse championshpi".
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Post#33 » by tsherkin » Sun May 29, 2022 1:14 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Ni Da Ye wrote:Lebron's Disney ring was not even a legit championship.


LOL


I just wonder how close he was to calling it a "mickey mouse championshpi".


I dunno, man, but we need to get past this BS of non-sensically devaluing championships.
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Post#34 » by LAL1947 » Sun May 29, 2022 1:15 am

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Post#35 » by LAL1947 » Sun May 29, 2022 1:16 am

tsherkin wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
tsherkin wrote:LOL

I just wonder how close he was to calling it a "mickey mouse championshpi".

I dunno, man, but we need to get past this BS of non-sensically devaluing championships.

True... but the 2006-07 daylight robbery needs a permasterisk.
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Post#36 » by tsherkin » Sun May 29, 2022 1:17 am

LAL1947 wrote:
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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:I just wonder how close he was to calling it a "mickey mouse championshpi".

I dunno, man, but we need to get past this BS of non-sensically devaluing championships.

True... but the 2006-07 daylight robbery needs a permasterisk.


Nah, even that. A footnote in Phoenix conversations but even that, man. Normalize just dealing with the results.
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Post#37 » by LAL1947 » Sun May 29, 2022 1:19 am

tsherkin wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:
tsherkin wrote:I dunno, man, but we need to get past this BS of non-sensically devaluing championships.

True... but the 2006-07 daylight robbery needs a permasterisk.


Nah, even that. A footnote in Phoenix conversations but even that, man. Normalize just dealing with the results.

That one absolutely needs a permasterisk IMO. Apart from poor Phoenix not being allowed to win their 1st and only ring... it's one of the legs people use to artificially prop Duncan over Kobe, as y'all use it to say Duncan has 5 titles too.
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Post#38 » by An Unbiased Fan » Sun May 29, 2022 1:28 am

tsherkin wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
LOL


I just wonder how close he was to calling it a "mickey mouse championshpi".


I dunno, man, but we need to get past this BS of non-sensically devaluing championships.

Devaluing 2020 isn't nonsense though. It was a legitimate playoffs. Season should have been cancelled
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Post#39 » by tsherkin » Sun May 29, 2022 2:02 am

LAL1947 wrote:That one absolutely needs a permasterisk IMO. Apart from poor Phoenix not being allowed to win their 1st and only ring... it's one of the legs people use to artificially prop Duncan over Kobe, as y'all use it to say Duncan has 5 titles too.


That's not really a subjectively-rooted post, and we all know this, man. They won the title. They won all the games they needed to win. Amare missed one game and was back in game 6. They still lost.

An Unbiased Fan wrote:Devaluing 2020 isn't nonsense though. It was a legitimate playoffs. Season should have been cancelled


It is nonsense, it's just fans kvetching when their team didn't win or their guy doesn't get the pub they want him to have.

Meantime, 2020 was a more legit season than 99 or 12. It was 11 games shorter than usual and it still took 16 wins to take the title.
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Re: Top 3 Lakers Peaks? 

Post#40 » by lakerz12 » Sun May 29, 2022 2:43 am

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Just going off eye test (watching all of the games), peak Kobe was way better than LeBron 2020, sorry.

Obviously I can't prove this, but we're talking about an all time great at their peak vs. an all time great at age 35/36.

LeBron figured out how to game the stats, but he's obviously a shell of his former self and not anywhere near a peak Kobe GTFOH

Peak Kobe would literally dunk on 35/36 year old LeBron.

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