Non-Mortem-2021-22: Golden State Warriors

[giberish]

A lot of things went right for Golden State to win this title. They had no major playoff injuries. Klay was back and at least moderately effective overall. Wiggins took another step up in the middle of his career. Poole continued to improve from his late-season run the year before. Both Porter and Payton were among the best min salary players in the league (it's hard to find guys who can be effective rotation players in late-round playoffs and GS got two of them for min salary additions).

[giberish]

For next season, I'd expect a relatively stay the course offseason.

I'd be shocked if Curry/Klay/Draymond/Wiggins/Poole/Moody/Kunminga were traded.

For the 7 UFA's, I'd expect Looney back, likely on a mild raise (I just don't see anyone else throwing big money at him).
Iggy will probably retire, but might be brought back on another min salary deal.
Probably either Payton or Porter is retained on a 'no hard cap' MLE deal (they can't both be). Both might get more than that and leave but I expect one stays.
Bejica is probably back, but may leave for someone offering more than a vet min deal. If so GS will look for a replacement vet min stretch - 5.
Lee and JTA might be kept, but perhaps room is made for younger options. If Payton leaves then Lee is very likely to stay, similarly if Porter leaves then JTA is very likely to stay.
I'd expect Moody to get more regular SG/SF minutes and Kunminga to get more regular PF/C/SF minutes and at least one if not both in the playoff rotation (at least as bench options).

IMO Wiseman is the one question mark, and it largely comes down to money. If they Warriors owners are feeling the luxury tax burn (or see it getting much worse going forward) then clearing Wisemand for salary relief and a late pick (probably all the value he has at this point) could happen. Something like Wiseman + #28 to OKC for #20+#25.

[TrueFan420]

IMO Wiseman is the one question mark, and it largely comes down to money. If they Warriors owners are feeling the luxury tax burn (or see it getting much worse going forward) then clearing Wisemand for salary relief and a late pick (probably all the value he has at this point) could happen. Something like Wiseman + #28 to OKC for #20+#25.

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[rtiff68]

don't forget to Keep the refs.

They had like 2 FTAs before garbage time stay mad lol

it's all about timing. that block on poole. wow.

Serious question: did you actually watch the game, and did you actually look at the data?

[slicedbread2]

For next season, I'd expect a relatively stay the course offseason.

I'd be shocked if Curry/Klay/Draymond/Wiggins/Poole/Moody/Kunminga were traded.

For the 7 UFA's, I'd expect Looney back, likely on a mild raise (I just don't see anyone else throwing big money at him).
Iggy will probably retire, but might be brought back on another min salary deal.
Probably either Payton or Porter is retained on a 'no hard cap' MLE deal (they can't both be). Both might get more than that and leave but I expect one stays.
Bejica is probably back, but may leave for someone offering more than a vet min deal. If so GS will look for a replacement vet min stretch - 5.
Lee and JTA might be kept, but perhaps room is made for younger options. If Payton leaves then Lee is very likely to stay, similarly if Porter leaves then JTA is very likely to stay.
I'd expect Moody to get more regular SG/SF minutes and Kunminga to get more regular PF/C/SF minutes and at least one if not both in the playoff rotation (at least as bench options).

IMO Wiseman is the one question mark, and it largely comes down to money. If they Warriors owners are feeling the luxury tax burn (or see it getting much worse going forward) then clearing Wisemand for salary relief and a late pick (probably all the value he has at this point) could happen. Something like Wiseman + #28 to OKC for #20+#25.

They have Looney's full bird rights along with GP 2's early bird rights so they'll have the opportunity to go over and bring them both back at decent deals. Looney would probably be 4/40-50M around that ballpark while GP II will be brought back at a 3/15-20M with a P/O(my guess probably will be wrong).

Otto Porter Jr. should be brought back but they'll only have the $6,339,000 taxpayer MLE to work with and I wouldn't be surprised if he heads elsewhere to get a nice payday though don't be surprised if he takes a Bobby Portis like special where he takes a bit less in order to nab the early bird rights that'll give the Warriors an opportunity to retain him.

They will have a late 1st which is nice and knowing how well they've done at developing players wouldn't be surprised if they nailed another pick.

As for Wiggins and Poole, wouldn't be surprised if Wiggins takes a 4/90-110M deal considering how good he's been and maybe they get Poole around a 4/80-90M though he'll probably get more than that. Wiseman it'll be interesting to see if he can bounce back and be a positive contributor b/c I liked his game but the injuries are killing him.

Either way it'll be fun to see what they do.

[payton2kemp]

Trade Klay as soon as possible

He just came off two major injuries, this was a practice year for him to get back into it. This will be his first real off season since 2018 without dealing with an injury. He needs time to get back to full strength.

[AussieCeltic]

They’re in an amazing spot.

Curry still has plenty left in him. Klay will probably be better next season with his legs back. I think Green is running on fumes but might have one more playoff run in him.

I really like Kuminga/Moody and think they’ll only be better next season.

I really dislike Poole but he’s the perfect spark plug off the bench for them.

If they can get Wiseman going then it’s going to be real tough for the rest of the league.

*edit. I forgot that Wiggins seemed to take a huge leap in the finals. He now knows he has that extra gear and has figured something out.

[Samurai]

don't forget to Keep the refs.

Steph didn't shoot his first FT until there was about 1:30 left in the game; definitely don't want to keep those refs.

[baldur]

Consolidate kuminga, moses, wiseman and 2024 and 2025 picks for a star and dominate for the next 2 years.

[PizzaSteve]

Future is bright. Run it back.

[whatisacenter]

Consolidate kuminga, moses, wiseman and 2024 and 2025 picks for a star and dominate for the next 2 years.

Keep them and contend the next two years and beyond....

[shza]

don't forget to Keep the refs.

To heavily benefit the Boston Celtics? Do not understand the relevance to this thread….

[baldur]

Consolidate kuminga, moses, wiseman and 2024 and 2025 picks for a star and dominate for the next 2 years.

Keep them and contend the next two years and beyond....

Contending and dominating are slightly different. Boston have been contending for the past 5 years too. Yet They have 0 rings.

[Coxy]

Q.3 Performed worse than expected. = 1 vote.

What.

[whatisacenter]

Consolidate kuminga, moses, wiseman and 2024 and 2025 picks for a star and dominate for the next 2 years.

Keep them and contend the next two years and beyond....

Contending and dominating are slightly different. Boston have been contending for the past 5 years too. Yet They have 0 rings.

I thought we were talking about the Warriors who literally just won their 4th ring.

[Kobe187]

Great job by the GM & coaching staff, well oiled machine.

GS is going to be great for the next 2-3 years, they did a great job retooling on the fly and have insulated the veterans with quality youth.

Even with the old core declining slightly the new emerging core is progressing, Klay & Green dropped off a little but that’s off set by Wiggins and Poole’s progression. Even with Curry slightly regressing the next few years the Warriors could pick up a couple more championships, just look at their emerging youth..

Poole 22
Wiseman 21
Kuminga 19
Moody 20
Looney 26
Wiggins 27

[baldur]

Keep them and contend the next two years and beyond....

Contending and dominating are slightly different. Boston have been contending for the past 5 years too. Yet They have 0 rings.

I thought we were talking about the Warriors who literally just won their 4th ring.

Yes and they dominated most of them.

[durden_tyler]

Just won a title and rebuilding (Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole) already. Any other similar team in the past?

[baldur]

A lot of things went right for Golden State to win this title. They had no major playoff injuries. Klay was back and at least moderately effective overall. Wiggins took another step up in the middle of his career. Poole continued to improve from his late-season run the year before. Both Porter and Payton were among the best min salary players in the league (it's hard to find guys who can be effective rotation players in late-round playoffs and GS got two of them for min salary additions).

So luck is the main factor according to your post?

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

If the Warriors want to save money they can let Porter go.

If the Warriors were not comfortable paying Wiseman they should have traded the draft pick.
Winning the Wisseman gamble is the key to the Warriors being a championship contender as Curry, Dray and Klay decline.
Kuminga would need to be an All-star for the Warriors to be a contender 4 years from now with the core in decline without getting anything from Wiseman.

I am still betting on Wiseman. The kid has a great body and is articulate. I think all he is missing is basketball experience but I am suspicious that something might be wrong with Wiseman’s reaction time.