Teams that have ZERO chance to compete in future because of ownership/front office

[dacrusha]

There is one team that ownership meddling will ensure they never become more than a play-in team and that’s the Hornets.

Michael Jordan is cheap as hell because he has his constant gambling debts to pay off and on top of that he doesn’t trust his management team to build a contending roster, so he’s always getting involved where he shouldn’t - cases in point: terrible drafting, losing Kemba for nothing, the Borrego firing etc etc etc

[Scalabrine]

I mean how the Suns can not even be in your Top 10 is amazing to me. They made the finals last year in spite of Sarver. He sabotaged the Nash era by giving away draft picks, trading players to rivals for money, not paying his players, etc. He nearly did it again with Ayton, and that saga isn't over yet, he's likely gonna be moved the first chance they get for expiring contracts. He drafted Jalen Smith over several impact players, Tyrese Halliburton being one, and then got rid of him for freakin Torrey Craig.

I hate Dolan and agree that hte Knicks are unlikely to win it all with him at the helm, but at least he'll spend and let the GM do his job for the most part. Much harder to win when the guy writing the checks doesn't want to spend in my opinion.

[Joshyjess]

Golden State
Boston
Milwaukee
Memphis
just to name a few!!!!

[ConSarnit]

I mean how the Suns can not even be in your Top 10 is amazing to me. They made the finals last year in spite of Sarver. He sabotaged the Nash era by giving away draft picks, trading players to rivals for money, not paying his players, etc. He nearly did it again with Ayton, and that saga isn't over yet, he's likely gonna be moved the first chance they get for expiring contracts. He drafted Jalen Smith over several impact players, Tyrese Halliburton being one, and then got rid of him for freakin Torrey Craig.

I hate Dolan and agree that hte Knicks are unlikely to win it all with him at the helm, but at least he'll spend and let the GM do his job for the most part. Much harder to win when the guy writing the checks doesn't want to spend in my opinion.

What value is Dolan being hands off when he consistently hires the wrong people to make the decisions? Even if Dolan is “hands off” for basketball decisions he still manages to embarrass and harm the Knicks reputation around the league. Arguing and banning fans, having beloved Knick Charles Oakley kicked out. Handing out money doesn’t work if you’re giving it to the wrong people.

It’s pretty clear Dolan can’t make good decisions in any facet of basketball. The guy hired Isiah Thomas to run the Liberty (wnba). The same Isiah Thomas that got fired from the Knicks because of sexual harassment (and cost the team $11m in lawsuits). Think about how brain dead you have to be to make that decision.

[Scalabrine]

I mean how the Suns can not even be in your Top 10 is amazing to me. They made the finals last year in spite of Sarver. He sabotaged the Nash era by giving away draft picks, trading players to rivals for money, not paying his players, etc. He nearly did it again with Ayton, and that saga isn't over yet, he's likely gonna be moved the first chance they get for expiring contracts. He drafted Jalen Smith over several impact players, Tyrese Halliburton being one, and then got rid of him for freakin Torrey Craig.

I hate Dolan and agree that hte Knicks are unlikely to win it all with him at the helm, but at least he'll spend and let the GM do his job for the most part. Much harder to win when the guy writing the checks doesn't want to spend in my opinion.

What value is Dolan being hands off when he consistently hires the wrong people to make the decisions? Even if Dolan is “hands off” for basketball decisions he still manages to embarrass and harm the Knicks reputation around the league. Arguing and banning fans, having beloved Knick Charles Oakley kicked out. Handing out money doesn’t work if you’re giving it to the wrong people.

It’s pretty clear Dolan can’t make good decisions in any facet of basketball. The guy hired Isiah Thomas to run the Liberty (wnba). The same Isiah Thomas that got fired from the Knicks because of sexual harassment (and cost the team $11m in lawsuits). Think about how brain dead you have to be to make that decision.

Oh absolutely agree that Dolan sucks. No argument here at all on that.

[Patches Perry]

You just listed a whole bunch of lottery teams, many that have been highly competitive playoff contenders in the last decade, some with the exact same management team. The idea that they'll never be competitive because they're bad right now is extremely short-sighted.

Also, OKC has to be maybe the only team that frequently gets mocked for overpaying players (see recent Lu Dort thread for example) while also being mocked for not being willing to pay players because of one situation with one player 10 years ago. Insert two buttons meme, you gotta pick a narrative a go with it.

[LessEyeTest]

I can't answer that question, but I can 100% promise you teams are cowering at the thought of a healthy LeBron this season. He's going to come out for BLOOD and anyone who gets in his way will PAY. I just saw him dominate the Drew League, if he's doing that against the best of the best, I shutter to think of what he'll do when the chains are unleashed and he plays in the no-D NBA league.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

It's evident as I am getting older that the NBA is strictly a business. Majority of NBA owners would rather have a large profit than win an actual championship. I feel like some owners cater to their fan base by doing bare minimum to get fans on board but in terms of actually competing and having to pay luxury tax, they simply bow out. It kinda turned me off as a fan and I'm sure it sucks to hear this but a lot of the bad owners in sports (not just nba) ruin the fan culture in general. Here is my list of NBA teams who will never win a championship IN FUTURE due to bad ownership:

1.) NY Knicks - Dolan
2.) OKC Thunder - market and ownership doing bare minimum
3.) Orlando Magic - ownership never keeps stars (Shaq, Penny, Dwight)
4.) Houston Rockets - Fertitta
5.) Sacramento Kings - Vivek
6.) Indiana Pacers - market and ownership not caring about winning
7.) Charlotte Hornets - market and never keeping stars/young talent
8.) San Antonio Spurs - ownership situation and market attractability

this is an incredibly dumb list.
Having OKC, Houston and especially SAS there is just comical, given their recent history.

Leonsis, Vivek and jordon. These are the only owners who severly limit the potential for their teams to contend.

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[nickhx2]

this list has zero chance

[schnakenpopanz]

when even the suns could compete despite sarver, anything is possible

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[jasonxxx102]

There is one team that ownership meddling will ensure they never become more than a play-in team and that’s the Hornets.

Michael Jordan is cheap as hell because he has his constant gambling debts to pay off and on top of that he doesn’t trust his management team to build a contending roster, so he’s always getting involved where he shouldn’t - cases in point: terrible drafting, losing Kemba for nothing, the Borrego firing etc etc etc

This sounds like a whole lot of baseless speculation

[chuck_wagon44]

It's evident as I am getting older that the NBA is strictly a business. Majority of NBA owners would rather have a large profit than win an actual championship. I feel like some owners cater to their fan base by doing bare minimum to get fans on board but in terms of actually competing and having to pay luxury tax, they simply bow out. It kinda turned me off as a fan and I'm sure it sucks to hear this but a lot of the bad owners in sports (not just nba) ruin the fan culture in general. Here is my list of NBA teams who will never win a championship IN FUTURE due to bad ownership:

1.) NY Knicks - Dolan
2.) OKC Thunder - market and ownership doing bare minimum
3.) Orlando Magic - ownership never keeps stars (Shaq, Penny, Dwight)
4.) Houston Rockets - Fertitta
5.) Sacramento Kings - Vivek
6.) Indiana Pacers - market and ownership not caring about winning
7.) Charlotte Hornets - market and never keeping stars/young talent
8.) San Antonio Spurs - ownership situation and market attractability

this is an incredibly dumb list.
Having OKC, Houston and especially SAS there is just comical, given their recent history.

Leonsis, Vivek and jordon. These are the only owners who severly limit the potential for their teams to contend.

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read the post, it says FUTURE. this isn't dealing with the past. For example, Houston has a new owner who by all accounts, is the worst owner in the NBA and super cheap to the point where he is scared to touch the luxury tax. This is what I mean by moving FORWARD Into the FUTURE.

[chuck_wagon44]

There is one team that ownership meddling will ensure they never become more than a play-in team and that’s the Hornets.

Michael Jordan is cheap as hell because he has his constant gambling debts to pay off and on top of that he doesn’t trust his management team to build a contending roster, so he’s always getting involved where he shouldn’t - cases in point: terrible drafting, losing Kemba for nothing, the Borrego firing etc etc etc

This sounds like a whole lot of baseless speculation

he is cheap so what's where to argue with again?

[EArl]

Kings and Knicks

[BoogieTime]

Kings would be on here but I think they’ve finally hit on the FO. Monte has been solid and finding gems. The Halliburton trade was ownership inspired (Vivek meddling about the team needing to improve now), but I could write a paragraph on the basketball community jumping the gun on that trade (Sabonis is better than Haliburton and may always be, and bigs generally have longer careers to age adjust, and Fox looked money post Hali trade with ball in his hands).

[ChaseDown]

I don’t get why SAS is even on the list, but whatever. The only answer is the only team that hasn’t made the playoffs in 16 years.

[HanzGruber]

The only team I feel belongs on this list at this time are the Wizards, every other team has some array of hope.

And yes i'm saying the Wizards are in worse shape going forwards than the Knicks and Kings.

I guess you can put the Blazers on this list but there's a possibility Dame captures some of his Superstar clutch self.

Wiz are very treadmill atm. But to be fair Ted also owns the capitals and they win the Stanley cup recently so there’s a chance one day lol

[Zerostatic]

I don't really think this exists in basketball. If you put a single MVP caliber player (i.e. Giannis, Steph Curry, Luka, Jokic, Lebron, etc.) on any roster in the NBA they instantly are in contention for being one of the top teams in their conference and thus are a contender. Due to the lottery nature of the draft any crappy team could win the Victor Wembanyama sweepstakes and he could potentially be that player.

On the other hand in the NFL or baseball if you put the best player in those sports on the worst team, that team will still likely suck.

[monopoman]

The Kings might have the worst ownership in all of the NBA, I was blown away watching the team draft Stauskas. They talk about going by the data and eye test from their scouts, but the owner comes in then talks up Stauskus and of course fearing their jobs or pissing the boss off they all fall in line.

You might as well call the Kings owner the GM, since he seems to want to meddle at any opportunity. If you watch the shorter clip of the Stauskus thing it doesn't show the full story.

Watch on YouTube

Sarver is cheap as heck and MJ may also meddle at this level, but the Kings owner seems absolutely clueless about what makes a good NBA player and despite that he still meddles. I would personally trust MJ as a GM over the Kings owner.

[Myth]

The Kings might have the worst ownership in all of the NBA, I was blown away watching the team draft Stauskas. They talk about going by the data and eye test from their scouts, but the owner comes in then talks up Stauskus and of course fearing their jobs or pissing the boss off they all fall in line.

You might as well call the Kings owner the GM, since he seems to want to meddle at any opportunity. If you watch the shorter clip of the Stauskus thing it doesn't show the full story.

Watch on YouTube

Sarver is cheap as heck and MJ may also meddle at this level, but the Kings owner seems absolutely clueless about what makes a good NBA player and despite that he still meddles. I would personally trust MJ as a GM over the Kings owner.

I’m failing to see the issue in that video. Even before the owner comes in they were already debating Smart vs Stauskas and seemed to like both. Ultimately they wanted to trade up to get Embiid and the owner allowed that attempt, but Phili said no. Smart then was off the board. Ultimately they took Stauskus, but there was nobody else mentioned that everybody seemed to want over Stauskus. Kings ownership may be bad, but I just don’t see how that video demonstrated it.