Kyrie donates $500K to organizations that fight hate. Adam Silver disappointed by Kyrie apology and plans to meet him

[TwitterFingers]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Yeah nothing to see here, right? Lol

[JojoSlimbiid]

Kyrie is content. I love how he isn't backing down from his position. I wish his position was a principled one based on truth but I kind of respect him holding firm here in this climate.

Adolf Hitler also held firm opinions until his death. That’s not an admirable quality, at all.

Stop. We can criticize Kyrie without the over the top comparisons

[KnicksGadfly]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Miles Bridges doesn't have a job anymore and is in court today.

[Eric Bieniemy]

What did Irving say?

[lamscott]

Any apology from the NBA on directly doing business with the CCP, a regime known for it's harsh treatment and lack of human rights? Why is Silver so quiet about the issue?
Why does the NBA continue to play music from artists that endorse violence against women, homosexuals and other protected groups?

Surely, if Kyrie liking a video that is critical of Jewish people is some form of hate speech and needs to be cracked down on, the NBA should eradicate its support for recording artists that support violence and criminality against minority groups?

NBA be a hypocrite and I shant be listening to Silver or his minions opinions on hate speech and human rights.

I see you have a case of Whataboutism

[Karate Diop]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Miles Bridges doesn't have a job anymore and is in court today.

Miles Bridges committed a crime. Kyrie did not.

[lamscott]

He is a star athlete. At the end of the day, it will take more than him be anti-semtic for it to hurt his brand. That is the truth. The NBA is just providing activities to CYA. Athletes are not role models people - Charles Barkley

[KnicksGadfly]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Miles Bridges doesn't have a job anymore and is in court today.

Miles Bridges committed a crime. Kyrie did not.

Yes. So Miles Bridges did get a lot more backlash than Kyrie actually did. Kyrie still has his job, still has his platform, still has his money, etc. Don't think we can say Kyrie is getting beat up more.

[Ugalde]

Kyrie is content. I love how he isn't backing down from his position. I wish his position was a principled one based on truth but I kind of respect him holding firm here in this climate.

he has apologized. it’s on the nets ig

[Slax]

1. The reason Silver is upset is because Kyrie did not apologize (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34940007/kyrie-irving-cites-responsibility-stops-short-apology). He has not denounced any specific claims made in the movie he shared, he has not said he regrets having shared it, he decided not to meet with the ADL or any other representatives of concerned Jews to have a dialogue about this, and he won't even clearly state that he doesn't hate Jewish people (when asked if he was antisemitic, he argued about the etymology of antisemitism instead of answering the question).

2. The idea that $500k fixes things in lieu of any sort of retraction and apology is laughable. If $500k was going to make a dent in anti-semitism - to reduce hatred in the hearts of even a small handful of people - you don't think Jewish people could and would collectively cough up that money themselves? What WOULD help would be for a high profile media figure who shared some antisemitic content to voluntarily explain to the public that he now realizes the content was a bigoted and full of fabrications and that he was in the wrong for sharing it and wishes he had never shared it in the first place, and at least pretend in public that he is as committed to fighting bigotry against Jews just as vigorously as any other ethnic, religious, or racial group.

Bad PR, disgusting bigotry, bad human being.

[Frank Dux]

Kyrie is content. I love how he isn't backing down from his position. I wish his position was a principled one based on truth but I kind of respect him holding firm here in this climate.

Adolf Hitler also held firm opinions until his death. That’s not an admirable quality, at all.

Stop. We can criticize Kyrie without the over the top comparisons

what point were you even trying to make? Saying that you’re happy someone is holding firm on their opinions that:
1. aren’t based on truth.
2. are deep seated in hatred for a group

it’s quite frankly stupid to celebrate Kyrie’s behavior. You know what a great trait is? emotional plasticity. Being able to change your opinions and beliefs is a wonderful thing and a sign of intelligence.

[AbeVigodaLive]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Miles Bridges doesn't have a job anymore and is in court today.

Miles Bridges committed a crime. Kyrie did not.

Miles Bridges has about 900K Twitter and Instagram followers. Kyrie Irving has 22M...

We can pretend that those things shouldn't matter. But they do.

There's a very fine line between player brands + public demand for those brands + media chasing clicks and money. We can't pretend that there isn't a HUGE public demand for this type of stuff. If the public wanted to hear more about Bridges legal issues, it would be covered more.

I always point back to when Zach Lowe commented on his podcast that his top 10 downloaded shows were all about gossip and very little about basketball. "We" want this stuff. "We're" the ones clamoring for more and more and more.

Is the media just giving us what we want? Or, are they implicit in making us follow this crap?

[celtics543]

Silver is upset because this makes the NBA look bad. After all the work they did to support the BLM movement and stand up against bigotry and hatred, it's a real bad look for one of their most recognizable stars to be sharing and promoting a movie filled with hatred and bigotry.

He understands that if the NBA is going to take a stand against hatred and bigotry then they can't ignore this and open themselves up to being called hypocrites. You either stand up against all hatred and bigotry or you give the "we're not involved in politics" line about all of it. You can't pick and choose when your customer base is as diverse as the NBA's.

[CIN-C-STAR]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Yeah nothing to see here, right? Lol

You ever listened to the lyrics of a Miles Bridges rap song?

"Yeah it's me bitch
I don't have time for the treeshes (I don't have the time)
Yeah, I’m like Miles Bridges
Choke you out, make the bitches stop breathing"

Nothing to see here, right? The league was cool with it I guess.
Oh but wait, there's more!..

"WSOC, bitch I’ll put you on the news
Channel 9, paramedics aren’t gonna save your life
I can make your heart stop if you try to play with mine"

Oh, but wait, there's more!..


"Passing like Magic, all I did was pass the Glock
I’m a mastermind, you **** ain’t even MasterLock
Bitches think it’s fun and games til I come and smash the box
27 days and nights, I’m Miles Bridges with these thots"

This is all from just one song btw. Literally talking about killing women, but nothing to see here right?
And the league had no problem with this and eventually Bridges did (allegedly) beat up a woman bad enough to land her in the hospital.
So which is it, should the league police this kind of speech always, never, or only when it's Kyrie?

[ReddoverKobe]

I wonder what Kyrie's response would have been if someone in the NBA was promoting an anti-black film? I'm sure he'd be so cool with it.

Oh you mean like the black face movies that were still prominent and available until getting removed recently, yeah...

If the movie is so hateful and anti-Semitic why the hell is it available to stream?

That seems to be the bigger more important issue. Why is it even available for people to watch?

People really dying on this hill huh?

[Lunartic]

Any apology from the NBA on directly doing business with the CCP, a regime known for it's harsh treatment and lack of human rights? Why is Silver so quiet about the issue?
Why does the NBA continue to play music from artists that endorse violence against women, homosexuals and other protected groups?

Surely, if Kyrie liking a video that is critical of Jewish people is some form of hate speech and needs to be cracked down on, the NBA should eradicate its support for recording artists that support violence and criminality against minority groups?

NBA be a hypocrite and I shant be listening to Silver or his minions opinions on hate speech and human rights.

I see you have a case of Whataboutism

I see you have a case of randomly inappropriate labeling without actually reading my postism

I specifically said I'm not interested in what Silver says about hate speech because of his refusal to address it in more profitable areas. I said nothing about Kyrie or tried to excuse Kyrie or even diminish Kyrie's antics. I stated my opinion on Silver and how he has handled this topic in the past.

Kyrie is just a product of the NBA and both have questionable records.

[Pharmcat]

That was a horrible press conference , my guess is bkn cuts bait soon

[Lalouie]

this is all BS and the media takes, mainly the ones i've seen on espn and nbaTV are all equally BS.

all blind to the matter of kyrie and that he continues to and will continue to stumble over his quotes until the day he retires. all of them saying this is a good first step which is utterly useless a statement as ever was one regarding kyrie. they're just enabling this idiot. (crawford and smith and the host)

i am actually surprised at silver's statement since he admonishes kyrie, and yet both he and the talking heads on nbaTV are representing the brand. i thought for sure silver would be on the same page as nbaTV

[tbhawksfan1]

Kyrie's apoolgy was to say that he doesn't hate anyone and that he doesn't belive "everything" in the doc. The first part is not true. The second part is likely true.

In the first interview where things really got hot for him he said that what the doc said was the truth. Based on his own words it's clear that he thinks that a group of jewish elite are running the world and he is 100% against it

He threw it out there..has to live with it now. There are things that you can't back peddle away from

[tbhawksfan1]

It's hurt his personal brand A LOT, and will likely cost him quite a bit in the offseason too, but he didn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal and he did make a significant donation and state that he doesn't have anything against Jewish people and didn't intend to hurt anyone.
I was never a fan of him anyway so this didn't change my mind on anything, but without watching the stupid movie (which I really don't want to do) it's hard for me to get that outraged about him linking to a video on Twitter. I mean, this has drawn more backlash from the league than Miles Bridges beating his wife and using social media to promote the use of dangerous drugs like lean.
I think it's time to move on. The longer this goes at this point the more the league is just promoting this stupid movie tbh.

Yeah nothing to see here, right? Lol

You ever listened to the lyrics of a Miles Bridges rap song?

"Yeah it's me bitch
I don't have time for the treeshes (I don't have the time)
Yeah, I’m like Miles Bridges
Choke you out, make the bitches stop breathing"

Nothing to see here, right? The league was cool with it I guess.
Oh but wait, there's more!..

"WSOC, bitch I’ll put you on the news
Channel 9, paramedics aren’t gonna save your life
I can make your heart stop if you try to play with mine"

Oh, but wait, there's more!..


"Passing like Magic, all I did was pass the Glock
I’m a mastermind, you **** ain’t even MasterLock
Bitches think it’s fun and games til I come and smash the box
27 days and nights, I’m Miles Bridges with these thots"

This is all from just one song btw. Literally talking about killing women, but nothing to see here right?
And the league had no problem with this and eventually Bridges did (allegedly) beat up a woman bad enough to land her in the hospital.
So which is it, should the league police this kind of speech always, never, or only when it's Kyrie?

They should both be blamed. Two wrongs don't make a right. Bridges actions in zero fashion change or affect Kyries. The NBA and it's haddleing of these situations is another argument. If you don't know that the NBA is a big business and that it sucks, I don't know what to tell you